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Jovian
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posted November 18, 2013 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is an apparently channeled message that has been circulating on the 'net for at least ten years. It is found under the titles, "Do You Wish That We Show Up" or "Decide Whether We Should Show Up." It comes to my mind sometimes as one of the more thought-provoking and legitimate-seeming "alien" communications.

It was also posted in Universal Codes a few years ago, by SunChild here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/003526.html

(The replies to that posting were mostly negative.)

I can't find an active, originating site for the message, but I recall it was originally channeled in another language, so this is a human's English translation.

I like the comments that a writer made here http://thesecrettruthabout.com/777/do-you-wish-that-we-show-up/ about this transmission:

"This is another Internet piece for which I cannot assess the validity. All I CAN say is that it sounds like a good idea, is coherent, and is written skillfully at a level of intelligence and maturity with I would associate with a serious, non-technical, matter-of-fact level of discourse. It is not ethnically [ethically?] loaded and the writer has a very good understanding of language and human psychology....

"[The tone of total respect for our individual free will decisions was what struck me as originating from the consciousness of a STO (service to other) being/s....]

"Most importantly, it makes no reference to impossible constructs, faux-tech, nor any type of religious or New Age buzzwords. ...The main assertion in the letter is that human civilization is now in an uncontrollable free-fall implosion which cannot be 'fixed' from within existing social systems. The implosion is causing, will cause a major rupture in all human orders...."

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Fear-mongering manipulation, or just trying to open our eyes, shake us out of our comatose stupor? It seems realistic yet hopeful, to me. Things ARE dire! ...I see it as a helpful outsider's perspective--from an arguably more advanced race--on the current human situation. I like things that jar my brain into a larger, trans-human perspective.


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CHANGE THE WORLD! “DECIDE WHETHER WE SHOULD SHOW UP!”

Whoever transmitted this translated message to you is irrelevant, and should remain anonymous in your mind. It is what you will do with this message which matters! Each one of you wishes to exercise her/his free will and experience happiness. These are attributes that were shown to us and to which we now have access. Your free will depends upon the knowledge you have of your own power. Your happiness depends upon the love that you give and receive. Like all conscious races at this stage of progress, you may feel isolated on your planet. This impression makes you sure of your destiny.

Yet, you are at the brink of big upheavals that only a minority is aware of. It is not our responsibility to modify your future without you choosing it. Consider this message as a worldwide referendum! And your answer as a ballot!

Who are we? Neither your scientists nor your religious representatives speak unanimously about the unexplained celestial events that mankind has witnessed for thousands of years. To know the truth, one must face it without the filter of one´s beliefs, however respectable they may be. A growing number of anonymous researchers of yours are exploring new knowledge paths and are getting very close to reality. Today, your civilization is flooded with an ocean of information of which only a tiny part, the less upsetting one, is notably diffused.

What in your history seemed ridiculous or improbable has often become possible, then realized, in particular in the last fifty years. Be aware that the future will be even more surprising. You will discover the worst as well as the best. Like billions others in this galaxy, we are conscious creatures that some name “extra-terrestrials”, even though reality is subtler. There is no fundamental difference between you and us, save for the experience of certain stages of evolution. Like in any other organized structure, hierarchy exists in our internal relationships. Ours is based upon the wisdom of several races. It is with the approval of this hierarchy that we turn to you.

Like most of you, we are in the quest of the Supreme Being. Therefore we are not gods or lesser gods but virtually your equals in the Cosmic Brotherhood. Physically, we are somewhat different from you but for most of us humanoid-shaped. Our existence is a reality but the majority of you does not perceive it yet. We are not mere observations, we are consciences just like you. You fail to apprehend us because we remain invisible to your senses and measure instruments most of the time. We wish to fill this void at this moment in your history. We made this collective decision but this is not enough. We need yours. Through this message, you become the decision-makers! You personally.

We have no human representative on Earth who could guide your decision.

Why aren’t we visible? At certain stages of evolution, cosmic “humanities” discover new forms of science beyond the apparent control of matter. Structured dematerialization and materialization are part of them. This is what your humanity has reached in a few laboratories, in close collaboration with other extra-terrestrial creatures at the cost of hazardous compromises that remain purposely hidden from you by some of your representatives. Apart from the aerial or spatial objects or phenomena known about by your scientific community, that you call UFOs, there are essentially multidimensional manufactured spaceships that apply these capacities.

Many human beings have been in visual, auditory, tactile or psychic contact with such ships, some of which are under occult powers that govern you. The scarcity of your observations is due to the outstanding advantages provided by the dematerialized state of these ships. By not witnessing them by yourself, you cannot believe in their existence. We fully understand this. The majority of these observations are made on an individual basis so as to touch the soul and not to modify any organized system. This is deliberate from the races that surround you but for very different reasons and results. For negative multidimensional beings that play a part in the exercise of power in the shadow of human oligarchy, discretion is motivated by their will to keep their existence and seizure unknown.

For us, discretion is motivated by the respect of the human free will that people can exercise to manage their own affairs so that they can reach technical and spiritual maturity on their own. Humankind’s entrance into the family of galactic civilizations is greatly expected. We can appear in broad daylight and help you attain this union. We haven’t done it so far, as too few of you have genuinely desired it, because of ignorance, indifference or fear, and because the emergency of the situation did not justify it. Many of those who study our appearances count the lights in the night without lighting the way. Often they think in terms of objects when it is all about conscious beings.

Who are you? You are the offspring of many traditions that throughout time have been mutually enriched by each others´ contributions. The same applies to the races at the surface of the Earth. Your goal is to unite in the respect of these roots to accomplish a common project. The appearance of your cultures seems to keep you separated because you substitute it to your deeper being. Shape is now more important than the essence of your subtle nature. For the powers in place, this prevalence of the shape constitutes the ramparts against any form of jeopardy. You are being called on to overcome shape while still respecting it for its richness and beauty.

Understanding the conscience of shape makes us love men in their diversity. Peace does not mean not making war, it consists in becoming what you are in reality: a same Fraternity. To understand this, the number of solutions within your reach are decreasing. One of them consists in contact with another race that would reflect the image of what you are in reality.

What is your situation? Except for rare occasions, our interventions always had very little incidence on your capacity to make collective and individual decisions about your own future. This is motivated by our knowledge of your deep psychological mechanisms. We reached the conclusion that freedom is built every day as a being becomes aware of himself and of his environment, getting progressively rid of constraints and inertias, whatever they may be. Despite the numerous, brave and willing human consciences, those inertias are artificially maintained for the profit of a growing centralizing power Until recently, mankind lived a satisfying control of its decisions.

But it is losing more and more the control of its own fate because of the growing use of advanced technologies, which lethal consequences on the earthly and human ecosystems become irreversible. You are slowly but surely losing your extraordinary capacity to make life desirable. Your resilience will artificially decrease, independently of your own will. Such technologies exist that affect your body as well as your mind. Such plans are on their way. This can change as long as you keep this creative power in you, even if it cohabits with the dark intentions of your potential lords.

This is the reason why we remain invisible. This individual power is doomed to vanish should a collective reaction of great magnitude not happen. The period to come is that of rupture, whichever it may be. But should you wait for the last moment to find solutions? Should you anticipate or undergo pain? Your history has never ceased to be marked by encounters between peoples who had to discover one another in conditions that were often conflictual. Conquests almost always happened to the detriment of others. Earth has now become a village where everyone knows everyone else but still conflicts persist and threats of all kinds get worse in duration and intensity.

Although a Human being as an individual, yet having many potential capacities, cannot exercise them with dignity. This is the case for the biggest majority of you for reasons that are essentially geopolitical. There are several billion of you. The education of your children and your living conditions, as well as the conditions of numerous animals and much plant life are nevertheless under the thumb of a small number of your political, financial, military and religious representatives. Your thoughts and beliefs are modeled after partisan interests to turn you into slaves while at the same time giving you the feeling that you are in total control of your destiny, which in essence is the reality.

But there is a long way between a wish and a fact when the true rules of the game at hand are unknown. This time, you are not the conqueror. Biasing information is a millenary strategy for human beings. Inducting thoughts, emotions or organisms that do not belong to you via ad hoc technologies is an even older a strategy. Wonderful opportunities of progress stand close to big subdual and destruction threats. These dangers and opportunities exist now. However, you can only perceive what is being shown to you.

The end of natural resources is programmed whereas no long-term collective project has been launched. Ecosystem exhaustion mechanisms have exceeded irreversible limits. The scarcity of resources and their unfair distribution – resources which entry price will rise day after day – will bring about fratricide fights at a large scale, but also at the very heart of your cities and countrysides. Hatred grows bigger but so does love. That is what keeps you confident in your ability to find solutions. But the critical mass is insufficient and a sabotage work is cleverly being carried out. Human behaviors, formed from past habits and trainings, have such an inertia that this perspective leads you to a dead end.

You entrust these problems to representatives, whose conscience of common well being slowly fades away in front of corporatist interests, with those difficulties. They are always debating on the form but rarely on the content. Just at the moment of action, delays will accumulate to the point when you have to submit rather than choose. This is the reason why, more than ever in your history, your decisions of today will directly and significantly impact your survival of tomorrow.

What event could radically modify this inertia that is typical of any civilization? Where will a collective and unifying awareness come from, that will stop this blind rushing ahead?

Tribes, populations and human nations have always encountered and interacted with one another. Faced with the threats weighing upon the human family, it is perhaps time that a greater interaction occurred. A great roller wave is on the verge of emerging. It mixes very positive but also very negative aspects. Who are the “third party”? There are two ways to establish a cosmic contact with another civilization: via its standing representatives or directly with individuals without distinction. The first way entails fights of interests, the second way brings awareness.

The first way was chosen by a group of races motivated by keeping mankind in slavery, thereby controlling Earth resources, the gene pool and human emotional energy. The second way was chosen by a group of races allied with the cause of the Spirit of service. We have, at our end, subscribed to this disinterested cause and introduced ourselves a few years ago to representatives of the human power who refused our outstretched hand on the pretext of incompatible interests with their strategic vision. That is why today individuals are to make this choice by themselves without any representative interfering.

What we proposed in the past to those whom we believed were in a capacity to contribute to your happiness, we propose it now to … you!

Most of you ignore that non-human creatures took part in the exercise of those centralizing powers without them being neither suspected nor accessible to your senses. This is so true that they have almost very subtly taken control. They do not necessarily stand on your material plan, and that is precisely what could make them extremely efficient and frightening in the near future. However, be aware that a large number of your representatives are fighting this danger ! Be aware that not all abductions are made against you. It is difficult to recognize the truth !

How could you under such conditions exercise your free will when it is so much manipulated? What are you really free of?

Peace and reunification of your peoples would be a first step toward the harmony with civilizations other than yours. That is precisely what those who manipulate you behind the scenes want to avoid at all cost because, by dividing, they reign! They also reign over those who govern you. Their strength comes from their capacity to distillate mistrust and fear into you. This considerably harms your very cosmic nature. This message would be of no interest if these manipulators´ tutorate did not reach its peak and if their misleading and murderous plans did not materialize in a few years from now.

Their deadlines are close and mankind will undergo unprecedented torments for the next ten cycles. To defend yourselves against this aggression that bears no face, you need at least to have enough information that leads to the solution. As is also the case with humans, resistance exists amongst those dominant races. Here again, appearance will not be enough to tell the dominator from the ally. At your current state of psychism, it is extremely difficult for you to distinguish between them. In addition to your intuition, training will be necessary when the time has come. Being aware of the priceless value of free will, we are inviting you to an alternative.

What can we offer? We can offer you a more holistic vision of the universe and of life, constructive interactions, the experience of fair and fraternal relationships, liberating technical knowledge, eradication of suffering, controlled exercise of individual powers, the access to new forms of energy and, finally, a better comprehension of consciousness. We cannot help you overcome your individual and collective fears, or bring you laws that you would not have chosen, work on your own selves, individual and collective effort to build the world you desire, the spirit of quest to new skies.

What would we receive?

Should you decide that such a contact takes place, we would rejoice over the safeguarding of fraternal equilibrium in this region of the universe, fruitful diplomatic exchanges, and the intense Joy of knowing that you are united to accomplish what you are capable of. The feeling of Joy is strongly sought in the universe for its energy is divine.

What is the question we ask you “DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP?”

How to can you answer this question? The truth of soul can be read by telepathy. You only need to clearly ask yourself this question and give your answer as clearly, on your own or in a group, as you wish. Being in the heart of a city or in the middle of a desert does not impact the efficiency of your answer, YES or NO, IMMEDIATELY AFTER ASKING THE QUESTION! Just do it as if you were speaking to yourself but thinking about the message.

This is a universal question and these mere few words, put in their context, have a powerful meaning. You should not let hesitation in the way. This is why you should calmly think about it, in all conscience. In order to perfectly associate your answer with the question, it is recommended that you answer right after another reading of this message. Do not rush to answer. Breathe and let all the power of your own free will penetrate you. Be proud of what you are! The problems that you may have weaken you. Forget about them for a few minutes to be yourselves. Feel the force that springs up in you.

You are in control of yourselves! A single thought, a single answer can drastically change your near future, in one way as in another. Your individual decision of asking in your inner self that we show up on your material plan and in broad daylight is precious and essential to us. Even though you can choose the way that best suits you, rituals are essentially useless. A sincere request made with your heart and your own will will always be perceived by those of us whom it is sent to. In your own private polling booth of your secret will, you will determine the future.

What is the lever effect? This decision should be made by the greatest number among you, even though it might seem like a minority. It is recommended to spread this message, in all envisageable fashions, in as many languages as possible, to those around you, whether or not they seem receptive to this new vision of the future. Do it using in a humorous tone or derision if that can help you. You can even openly and publicly make fun of it if it makes you feel more comfortable but do not be indifferent for at least you will have exercised your free will.

Forget about the false prophets and the beliefs that have been transmitted to you about us. This request is one of the most intimate that can be asked to you. Making a decision by yourself, as an individual, is your right as well as your responsibility! Passivity only leads to the absence of freedom. Similarly, indecision is never efficient. If you really want to cling to your beliefs, which is something that we understand, then say NO. If you do not know what to choose, do not say YES because of mere curiosity. This is not a show, this is real daily life, WE ARE ALIVE ! And living !

Your history has plenty of episodes when determined men and women were able to influence the thread of events in spite of their small number. Just like a small number is enough to take temporal power on Earth and influence the future of the majority, a small number of you can radically change your fate as an answer to the impotence in face of so much inertia and hurdles! You can ease the mankind’s birth to Brotherhood.

One of your thinkers once said: “Give me a hand-hold and I’ll raise the Earth”. Spreading this message will then be the hand-hold to strengthen, we will be the light-years long lever, you will be the craftsmen to … raise the Earth as a consequence of our appearance.

What would be the consequences of a positive decision ? For us, the immediate consequence of a collective favorable decision would be the materialization of many ships, in your sky and on Earth. For you, the direct effect would be the rapid abandoning of many certitudes and beliefs. A simple conclusive visual contact would have huge repercussions on your future. Much knowledge would be modified forever. The organization of your societies would be deeply upheaved for ever, in all fields of activity. Power would become individual because you would see for yourself that we are living. Concretely, you would change the scale of your values!

The most important thing for us is that humankind would form a single family in front of this “unknown” we would represent! Danger would slowly melt away from your homes because you would indirectly force the undesirable ones, those we name the “third party”, to show up and vanish. You would all bear the same name and share the same roots: Mankind!

Later on, peaceful and respectful exchanges would be thus possible if such is your wish. For now, he who is hungry cannot smile, he who is fearful cannot welcome us. We are sad to see men, women and children suffering to such a degree in their flesh and in their hearts when they bear such an inner light. This light can be your future. Our relationships could be progressive. Several stages of several years or decades would occur: demonstrative appearance of our ships, physical appearance beside human beings, collaboration in your technical and spiritual evolution, discovery of parts of the galaxy. Every time, new choices would be offered to you.

You would then decide by yourself to cross new stages if you think it necessary to your external and inner well-being. No interference would be decided upon unilaterally. We would leave as soon as you would collectively wish that we do. Depending upon the speed to spread the message across the world, several weeks, or even several months will be necessary before our “great appearance”, if such is the decision made by the majority of those who will have used their capacity to choose, and if this message receives the necessary support. The main difference between your daily prayers to entities of a strictly spiritual nature and your current decision is extremely simple : we are technically equipped to materialize!

Why such a historical dilemma? We know that “foreigners” are considered as enemies as long as they embody the “unknown”. In a first stage, the emotion that our appearance will generate will strengthen your relationships on a worldwide scale.

How could you know whether our arrival is the consequence of your collective choice? For the simple reason that we would have otherwise been already there for a long time at your level of existence! If we are not there yet, it is because you have not made such a decision explicitly. Some among you might think that we would make you believe in a deliberate choice of yours so as to legitimate our arrival, though this would not be true. What interest would we have to openly offer you what you haven’t got any access to yet, for the benefit of the greatest number of you?

How could you be certain that this is not yet another subtle manoeuvre of the “third party” to better enslave you ? Because one always more efficiently fights something that is identified than the contrary. Isn’t the terrorism that corrodes you a blatant example? Whatever, you are the sole judge in your own heart and soul! Whatever your choice, it would be respectable and respected! In the absence of human representatives who could potentially seduce into error you ignore everything about us as well as from about those who manipulate you without your consent. In your situation, the precautionary principle that consists in not trying to discover us does no longer prevail.

You are already in the Pandora´s box that the “third party” has created around you. Whatever your decision may be you will have to get out of it. In the face of such a dilemma, one ignorance against another, you need to ask your intuition. Do you want to see us with your own eyes, or simply believe what your thinkers say? That is the real question!

After thousands of years, one day, this choice was going to be inevitable: choosing between two unknowns. Why spread such a message among yourselves? Translate and spread this message widely. This action will affect your future in an irreversible and historical way at the scale of millenniums, otherwise, it will postpone a new opportunity to choose to several years later, at least one generation, if it can survive.

Not choosing stands for undergoing other people’s choice. Not informing others stands for running the risk of obtaining a result that is contrary to one’s expectations. Remaining indifferent means giving up one’s free will. It is all about your future. It is all about your evolution. It is possible that this invitation does not receive your collective assent and that, because of a lack of information, it will be disregarded. Nevertheless no individual desire goes unheeded in the universe. Imagine our arrival tomorrow. Thousands of ships.

A unique cultural shock in today´s mankind´s history. It will then be too late to regret about not making a choice and spreading the message because this discovery will be irreversible. We do insist that you do not rush into it, but do think about it ! And decide ! The big medias will not be necessarily interested in spreading this message. It is therefore your task, as an anonymous yet an extraordinary thinking and loving being, to transmit it. You are still the architects of your own fate… “DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP?”


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Jovian
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posted November 18, 2013 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Like all conscious races at this stage of progress, you may feel isolated on your planet. This impression makes you sure of your destiny."

Mm Hmm... It is difficult for me to not feel that this message is too little, to late; and we are destined to suffer alone as a race, going to our own private hell in a handbasket.

I wish I felt differently.

Yet... "thousands of ships." ...Can you imagine??

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posted November 18, 2013 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Normally I'd say yes. But after reading that I have to say no, I do NOT invite them. That was terrible and made me think of a vampire trying to get an invite. The ONLY part that didn't sound like a con-artist is that they said "take your time" and even then there was some fear mongering to say yes sooner rather than later when as far as I can tell even if the basic premise is true about telepathic civilizations then they're not being allowed here for a reason without us giving consent, and thereby removing legal and/or occult protections in place if we were to invite them.

And I certainly don't believe them that it would be easier to fight them once a thousand ships were here than before when they're barred from coming in the first place, possibly because of legal protections in place that they're answerable to that says they won't be allowed to come unless we waive our rights & legal protections so to speak. (I also can't help but recall Earth history on how many accepted help or made deals in good faith which cost them their sovereignty & culture as the people making promises then moved in with "advisers" and/or military force who altered the deal.)

Hey, I'm just saying how it sounds to me. Normally I'm all for exchanges with other civilizations (and I recall thinking the idea of Ummo sounded cool when I read of it) but that was a disturbing read. To say why in more detail would be too long, don't read, however.

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posted January 09, 2014 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted January 10, 2014 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good analogy (vampire).

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posted February 05, 2014 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for groundfaery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no dont show up unless you can take me to ur leader, in serenity

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posted February 06, 2014 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted February 07, 2014 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted February 13, 2014 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Correct analogy by PixieJane.
ETs that manipulate our consent for showing up are Vampiric.

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posted February 13, 2014 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NnPlruF7bI
But they are here "To Serve Man."

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posted March 19, 2014 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What difference does it make when the majority doesn't believe anyway...

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posted March 20, 2014 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A lot of people do believe.

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there is a documentary about this psychiatrist who treated many children who claimed to have seen aliens. He passed away though. I think the name of the video is called "alien spacecraft lands in Ariel school. over 60 chlidren live to tell about it" on youtube!

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posted March 22, 2014 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
A lot of people do believe.

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Not just vampiric.They are actually trying to establish soul to soul contact In order to increase their wisdom through some individuals by means of channeling.
ETs try to manipulate our very own consciousness for their own selfish needs.
They are more into mind control stuff to eradicate this earth of true spiritual masters.
My Answer is a Definite NO...But if i have to answer them directly i wouldnt let them know of my choice.Better to ignore.


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What is the purpose of living without seeking truth? Regardless of what may come, what are we truly protecting here, at the cost of many unknowns becoming known? And, why doubt your inner strength and will?

The center of this whether or not you believe in one's soul being eternal. There would be nothing to fear, otherwise.

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posted June 13, 2014 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe they care....

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Way too much fear in this thread, my god. Don't you know the REASON none of the benevolent E.T.'s have shown themselves enmasse is because they respect free will? They'll never come if we don't want them to and judging by all of the responses in this thread, they'll never freaking come.

Negative E.T.'s cannot make soul to soul contact or whatever hunk of bologne you're trying to sell to perpetuate fear. Your soul is eternal and incorruptible. It is a pure part of spirit operating in higher dimensions than any negative E.t. can even exist in. The reason these E.t.'s are even "negative" in the first place is because they're operating out of ego and some are completely separate from Source. The negative E.t.'s don't give a damn about free will and most certainly won't ask that you invite them here. They'll try to come regardless. That's what freaking makes them negative. The Arcturians and other benevolent races keep egotistical races from full on invading like the draconians. But they're still here in smaller numbers. Abductors don't ask for your permission to abduct you. Its completely stupid and foolish to think that this message would be from a negative E.T. race. Negative E.t.'s can only exist in the 3rd and 4th dimensions. Anything higher means the absence of fear and the beginning of the end of duality.

This is their ONLY way of coming here and you're all here scared out of your minds. THAT is why you are stuck here in this 3rd dimension and THAT is why you will continue to reincarnate. Fear. Negative e.t.'s feed off of fear so your very fear is sustaining any that happen upon this thread or feel your energy. Tricking yourself into thinking that this message was made for that will cause even MORE fear and further feed them. Until you all can get rid of fear, they will not come.

Negative E.t.'s have already been controlling society for thousands of years. They are already here and have been here and do not WANT these E.t.'s to come as it will end their reign. The Reptillians and greys are already working here. THEY are the "3rd party", and they've got you all stooped down into fear.

I say yes come right away and is many numbers as you can. Once you know the universal laws and start spiritually awakening, you'll realize that fear is what keeps you back and makes you be controlled by ego. Ego has got this thread in its grips and your guides and angels are shaking their heads.

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posted August 04, 2014 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This post feels accurate to me.


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Originally posted by Leorpio:
Way too much fear in this thread, my god. Don't you know the REASON none of the benevolent E.T.'s have shown themselves enmasse is because they respect free will? They'll never come if we don't want them to and judging by all of the responses in this thread, they'll never freaking come.

Negative E.T.'s cannot make soul to soul contact or whatever hunk of bologne you're trying to sell to perpetuate fear. Your soul is eternal and incorruptible. It is a pure part of spirit operating in higher dimensions than any negative E.t. can even exist in. The reason these E.t.'s are even "negative" in the first place is because they're operating out of ego and some are completely separate from Source. The negative E.t.'s don't give a damn about free will and most certainly won't ask that you invite them here. They'll try to come regardless. That's what freaking makes them negative. The Arcturians and other benevolent races keep egotistical races from full on invading like the draconians. But they're still here in smaller numbers. Abductors don't ask for your permission to abduct you. Its completely stupid and foolish to think that this message would be from a negative E.T. race. Negative E.t.'s can only exist in the 3rd and 4th dimensions. Anything higher means the absence of fear and the beginning of the end of duality.

This is their ONLY way of coming here and you're all here scared out of your minds. THAT is why you are stuck here in this 3rd dimension and THAT is why you will continue to reincarnate. Fear. Negative e.t.'s feed off of fear so your very fear is sustaining any that happen upon this thread or feel your energy. Tricking yourself into thinking that this message was made for that will cause even MORE fear and further feed them. Until you all can get rid of fear, they will not come.

Negative E.t.'s have already been controlling society for thousands of years. They are already here and have been here and do not WANT these E.t.'s to come as it will end their reign. The Reptillians and greys are already working here. THEY are the "3rd party", and they've got you all stooped down into fear.

I say yes come right away and is many numbers as you can. Once you know the universal laws and start spiritually awakening, you'll realize that fear is what keeps you back and makes you be controlled by ego. Ego has got this thread in its grips and your guides and angels are shaking their heads.


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posted August 04, 2014 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
This post feels accurate to me.



It truly is sad to see, but its completely true. This thread screams fear and ego and is so counter intuitive its almost unbelievable.

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posted August 05, 2014 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted August 05, 2014 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leorpio:
It truly is sad to see, but its completely true. This thread screams fear and ego and is so counter intuitive its almost unbelievable.

I would add, however, that human beings are perfectly capable of running the show for selfish agendas, without the intervention of ETs.
We are intelligent enough to do that.
All we have to choose is to live from our shadow.
The shadow denies the collective, which directly, or indirectly, leads to personal gain at others' expense.
This is a known human propensity when we are struggling to manage personal darkness.

But yes, I think we could benefit from being more open to communications from out there.
Without hard evidence of negativity, it seems unwise to project it.

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posted August 05, 2014 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leorpio:
This thread screams fear and ego and is so counter intuitive its almost unbelievable.

Worry about the stick in your own eye (going by your posts here and in other threads, particularly in regards to ego and asserting things without any evidence or clear reason to support it but expecting everyone to recognize the wisdom of your cliches) than the splinter in everyone else's.

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posted August 08, 2014 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Worry about the stick in your own eye (going by your posts here and in other threads, particularly in regards to ego and asserting things without any evidence or clear reason to support it but expecting everyone to recognize the wisdom of your cliches) than the splinter in everyone else's.

That's a convenient analogy you made there and its quite a good one but I'm not surprised one who is so scared of these beings to lash out in such a manner. I'm not going to judge because its out of fear, but fear based thinking must be shown for what it is and must be called out if we as a species are EVER to ascend.

I'd turn the tides and say its quite cliche to immediately project human vices and faults (conmen) onto an unknown entity that is spreading a message. It speaks of pure conditioning on your part to immediately discount something that promises something directly out of fear, which I do not blame you for! Its also sadly quite cliche to lash out and immediately attack the person calling out the fear, because all of a sudden, fear of vulnerability has been shown, which in itself triggers another fear based reaction. And that's how I'm going to take this reply as, as a reaction, and not quite a response. I love you and I want you to know that.

Now I can easily go and gather my many sources explaining that negative entities are already here and have been here for quite some time and that the reason the world is in the state it is in is because of them but it would take up too much space. And also it speaks of doubt on your part in both the e.t.'s that speak of good will and myself that might point to something deeper within yourself, I'm sorry to say.

I have my own issues most assuredly, don't get me wrong. I still struggle with ego and my own emotions and I still struggle to keep my vibration high and to help as many as I can via knowledge, emotion, or some other medium. But to immediately discredit a calling out of one's own fear based thinking and logic because you're projecting that I have the same issues is not healthy in any way. Yes I went on a rant and yes there was frustration in the post but the words speak for themselves.

I don't know if you've started on your spiritual awakening yet or have begun your journey but I can speak of experience of my own and those of others I have met that the times are changing. The Galactic Federation of Light is helping us and is reaching out to us so that we may once and for all finally get out of duality and the experiment into fear, negativity, and polarity. 2012 was the start of the Age of Aquarius and we've been in it ever since. This is only the beginning and Saturn in Scorpio means that all fear based thinking of the status quo WILL be shown for what it is, whether it be in the government, on linda-goodman.com, or where ever else it may pop up.

I do not worry, for worrying does nothing. I am active in my voice to help see the change through that I came here to do. I am not different from you nor you me. I am you, and you are me. We, and everyone else in this thread, everyone else on this planet, and everything else in the universe are one. Once we come to realize this, we start to realize that fear is pointless. There is no reason to be afraid as all will be reconciled in the end.

I love you PixieJane, and I don't want to argue. I want you to understand that by being scared, you're giving the negative entities you are afraid of power over you to do the thing you are scared of! These beings are not negative in nature, for they would not ask for your permission to be negative. The Greys do not care if you want their permission. They WILL trick you so your caution is not completely unreasonable but they do not do so via means like this. They simply come to your house and pretend to be your friends then completely disregard your freewill and take you. The Pleiadians do not do that. The Arcturians do not do that. They respect the universal laws, especially that of freewill. This is their request to come according to our freewill.

I read on multiple occasions in different places that Dec 21st 2012 was the end of a quarantine the Galactic Federation placed on earth. What that meant is that up until dec 21 2012, no star nation as a whole could make public contact with the people of earth. It could only be individuals. But now that law is lifted, that ban is over. All they need now is our consent and they will come. Critical mass has almost been reached and soon they WILL come, in droves upon droves. The Pleiadians have stated that the skies will be filled with lights, so many that no government or person would be able to deny they are there. The human collective consciousness is changing rapidly and things are happening quicker than before. Time is being shown as the illusion it is as people realize the only thing that exists is the present moment. We are coming to a point where we all are subconsciously starting to want them to come and accepting their presence.

The point of my ranty post was do not be afraid, for that fear is the cause of the problems you are afraid of! Be happy and feel the intense love of Source all around you in everything and in everyone.

I will end this post by a quote that summarizes The Law of One by Ra:

"In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One."

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posted August 09, 2014 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I say you are cliche because you always come up with the stock new age answers that people who try to build themselves up spiritually like to say without rhyme or reason. For example, "Fear cannot exist with love." That's despite how intertwined most people can see they are and how love can then be twisted into hate (though fear serves a good purpose and when properly channeled it's a gift, and I'd say the same about all other emotions including love--yes, love can be harmful when it's not properly channeled, just as fear can be). It sounds nice (the way it SHOULD be rather than how it actually is, happiness without grief, gain without loss) but I can't imagine anyone who wasn't conditioned to think that (such as being raised on that Bible verse of love without fear which contradicts many of the other verses in the Bible) could really believe it.

Still, you finally give reasons (and toned down the contempt and self-congratulations for your supposed higher vibrational state) for why you think as you do here (your own conditioning) so I can finally see where you're coming from. I come from a very different background, and I don't believe in The Galactic Federation of Light. Those are daimons, trickster spirits, as described in Daimonic Reality, who once claimed to come from distant lands, lost kingdoms, beneath the Earth, from another planet, and then other solar systems to match with what the people could accept rather than what was true.

But they're native to our world and they are either shaped by or they adapt themselves to our minds and cultures. Anything to get attention but careful (or unable) to fully manifest in this reality. When they do manifest they're just like nature, just like humanity, they range from the kindly to the cruel, beautiful to nightmarish. Mostly they're just puzzling, and their predictions often turn out wrong (or, most interesting, they turn out right in many little ways but then The Big One such as a major disaster or even end of the world just never happens, nor does a New Heaven and Earth...2012 was just the latest daimon trick that fizzled in the end, the same trick they've been pulling for thousands of years now).

In my own occult training it was stressed on how our vibrations, as you would put it, are a reflection of higher realities which is why magic and various forms of divination are possible. However, the Aristotelian concepts of Laws of Thought (that encourage seeing a whole in dichotomous terms so that spirit and material, love and fear, are like oil & water unable to fully mix), hierarchy, and the Zoroastrian model of all-good vs. all-evil entities was toned down or left out completely and instead adopted more of a spirit and nature are mirror images of each other and a Yin-Yang philosophy (that is what are contradictory forces to you are complimentary to each other to me and I see one is always found in and/or give rise to the other, such as love & fear) which is pretty much incompatible with your own tradition/philosophy and comes with radically different assumptions (so that what you say is as counter-intuitive to me as what I say is to you).

Another important aspect was the psychic and spiritual levels of our beings (which were not dichotomies) and entities of spirit could exert control and vampirism if allowed within...and no matter how strong one's aura was, if you gave permission then that's basically like baring your throat to them and unless some binding was in place then they could do whatever they wanted. But they needed that invite to get past the defenses unless the person was already too weak to resist. That is they need permission. And some of them can, like the vampires of legend (or the venus flytraps in nature which smells sweet to their food which is a reflection of higher forces) make themselves appear desirable.

The archons in particular (a seemingly particularly toxic form of daimon) have been described in many ways, from ancient to modern, who trick people into loving them so that they can exploit them like cattle. And the history of our species is filled with nightmares of torture and executions to make people accept the invite of some God or other, yet going by the fruits of their actions they were very negative entities in spirit that filled those who invited Jesus or whoever into their hearts. Though belief seems more important and perhaps love or fear means little to them, so long as one believes (for example, the chupacabra was restricted to certain areas until reported on and then the encounters spread to those who heard, and that's also true of other daimons, including those who seemingly appear in flying saucers or claim to be from the Pleiades).

And the so-called alien message doesn't make sense for entities who are actually extraterrestrial who could easily use our satellites among other ways for us to have a "referendum," one that was public rather than "telepathic." However, it does make sense for spiritual entities, or more accurately, the tricky daimons. Really, it's just another religion (complete with blissful Heaven and horrible Hell that's dependent on accepting a belief without reason other than we want it to be true or even fear of the Hell we're said we'll be put in if we don't "choose correctly") dressed up in modern terms, though I see little useful in this particular kind. But if it works for you, great, and I hope you keep feeling the love and unity of higher dimensions separated from this one where there is no fear, only love.

And btw, I've never been abducted. I did have a few interesting encounters with frightening entities but that's another tale for another time, and thing is I successfully resisted them by not surrendering to them. Though much more interesting was that spirit entities of sorts did talk to me without my permission, but I didn't mind it, and they never mentioned anything like this "alien message," nor did they promote fear (the "alien message" asking for an invite promotes more fear than the ones who communicated with me did as they didn't say bad things would happen to me unless I did what they said or even just failed to believe in them). That's an even more interesting tale than the scary ones but again, for another time.

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