posted March 20, 2016 08:09 PM              

I've looked, and the area I live in isn't connected to any ley lines or known vortexes...

Central Washington, stretching slightly northeast.

Other areas of the state are lovely and pleasant, but this...
I grew up here, and left for 20 years before moving back. It has always felt negative to me, and it tends to carry a lot of crime, depressed economy, violence, addiction, etc.

A bit further northeast of here is a place that is supposedly known for its healing properties (called Soap Lake, as it's a land-locked lake in the middle of a desert, full of minerals and entirely devoid of life, save for brine shrimp or something like it).
That is one of the worst places I have ever been, and I will never go back there if I can help it.
My husband and I dread even driving a bit south of there, as the energy seems to stretch all the way down to I-90, although not as concentrated.

Anyway, where we're at now is only about 1.5 hours away, and I have to think that the extremely unpleasant energy from there extends a bit to here.

How can one learn about these areas, why they are the way they are (so inexplicably negative), and do one's best to keep that energy at bay in one's life and home?

As I've mentioned, there are no known ley lines or vortexes connected to these areas.

Thoughts or experiences?

posted March 20, 2016 11:12 PM            

Some witches wondered if it was the Supermax prison there creating something a sinkhole or astral pollution by concentrating so much badness (and not just the prisoners mind you, but also the infamous guards that can be just as bad in their own way). And perhaps even indirectly as people feared it (and loved/hated it as it brought in money to the community as those hired there spent their money around). I was warned not to hitchhike there as cops cracked down hard on it (out of fear of the worst and most violent prisoners escaping).

But I wonder, did it cause it, or is it just another manifestation of something older? I did some research and found quite a few massacres in the area went down, but most aren't talked about at all. (Offhand, I was able to find mentions of the Yontoket massacre and Achulet massacre, and there were more.) IIRC, there were interment camps in the area for the Japanese as well. Throw in "the usual" and perhaps that's what caused the astral sore (for want of a better word).

posted March 20, 2016 11:20 PM              

Whatever is at Soap Lake is very strong, and very negative. My husband and I were both woke up in the middle of the night when we camped there, with basically the same nightmare, and we fought a lot while we were there. Definitely something not good about the area. It took us a long time to really cleanse our energy of it.

I've noticed Seaside, OR to be a bit like that as well...
Not as negative as Yakima, but...unsettling, and not as positive as it "should" be. I was talking to a girl who worked at a shop I like there, and she also mentioned the constant influx of different people, different energies. But I still wonder if maybe it was a sacred area that shouldn't have been settled, or something of that nature.

Yakima is its own weird, barren desert. As you move closer to the mountains, the energy clears out significantly.

I'm wondering if a lot of plants in and around the house would help, as I believe they tend to attract positive energy...

posted March 20, 2016 11:36 PM              

It was just...greasy, weird, not right. We stayed in a hotel there on our way to Denver this past spring, and as we were driving out, we noticed that there was a prison there.

posted March 20, 2016 11:47 PM            

Unfortunately, the Search function is on the blink again, it's showing results, but not the ones I'm looking for (it will later, if I remember to try again). My experience is a long story that I'm not in the mood to recount, so long story made very short, I saw something that was not human, though appeared to be human at first glance that I call the Whistling Man, but radiated such evil, and it chased me when I was 11. I was then plagued by a poltergeist for a few months after along with terrifying nightmares. Quite a few other details I'm leaving out for brevity...though I'll add an unsettling moment was years after the poltergeist effects stopped, when I moved back into the home I lived in there at 14, and as soon as I walked in for the first time in many months there was a crash in my old bedroom (Mom thought Dad was breaking in and called the cops), but it was apparently a poltergeist effect...as if "welcoming" me back home (I was so glad I had a different bedroom by then, and whenever I dream of being back in that old bedroom the dream is usually nightmarish).

Oh yeah, before the Whistling Man were other odd effects, like strange lights, people who were spooked even when they felt silly for it, and the most unsettling to me personally (not counting the Whistling Man) is that over a few days it was as if a hand was sticking out. And then it seemed to grow slowly into a person.

I told Dad about it who said someone was probably making a "mud man" "like a snowman." He told me to look for footprints, since it was muddy, after all.

The mud man seemed to form, and then one day was just gone as if never there. And I never saw any footprints (I didn't go all the way there as something about it scared me).

There was just something weird about those woods. It was after the Whistling Man that I refused to enter them again, but I had a strange feeling that by cutting down the trees (as construction continued) that they might "let something loose."

I went back when I was 21 and researched the area, trying to find what had been there before (many local libraries in such areas have books regarding the local history that can't be found anywhere else, including online). There was very little I could find, but there were 2 intriguing mysteries. First, an abandoned ghost town was found in the early 20th century, but no one knew who settled there or what happened, but the place was built back up and new settlers were there, finally putting in a post office (which didn't exist in the first town). Strangely, they all moved as well, but at least they packed up (the book explained it as probably economic forces that was behind it, and the more that left, the harder it was for everyone else until no one was left).

posted March 21, 2016 12:03 AM              

I also live in a small town outside of the city (which is the town I grew up in), but no I can't say that I've ever had anything that tangible happen anywhere.

Well, I'm glad that you're still sane after all of that (and everything else).

What did just occur to me is that it's possible that my personal energy doesn't naturally jive with the energy that is here, and by instinctively trying to repel it, it makes it worse?

Like maybe if I could just accept the energy here as it is (assuming it's not negative in essence), and be okay with it, it might not be negative for me anymore, if that makes sense...

Sort of like when there are benevolent Earth spirits, and people assume they are evil/negative out of fear or misunderstanding, so try to get rid of them...which only upsets the otherwise pleasant Earth spirits and energies.

I just rambled quite a bit there, but I'm starting to really wonder if this last idea might be the case in my specific scenario...

The energy of Seattle, and the Pacific Northwest in general, has always felt very good and calming for me, but that might not necessarily mean that the energy here is negative...

posted March 21, 2016 12:50 AM            

Get a geological survey map of the area.... see what's underneath your feet.

Look at the kinds of rocks and minerals prevalent in the area. Are these compatible with your energies?

Look at the general geometry around you... Are there jagged-mountains or are the hills rolling? Does that make a difference to you?

Going to the local library could be rewarding... Find the history of the area.

Look to see if there are metaphysical groups in the area. They may know some things.

If there is an active tribe of NativeAmericans (Indians) in the area, perhaps they can tell you some things about the energies.

Going to a drumming group might help you find some folks who have interesting stories about the area, and also be a way of you 'communing' with the vibes within you to see what your picking up.

Some churches (spirit-filled, bornagains) have 'intercessory prayers' for areas. If you know people who are into that, (or want to contact a pastor), as them for a 'read' on how the area is.

I know for me, just a few miles one way or another can make a huge difference in the 'feel'.

haha.... I prefer being around some water. Had always been around salt water, and when I moved up to the Great Lakes region, I didn't realize that I'd notice the difference in the air. No salt. ...And mosquitos the size of small birds!

If it's not fitting well for you, it may take a year or two for you to adjust.

Be well....

posted March 21, 2016 01:08 AM              

I grew up here, lol. It has never fit well, and I don't recall ever really acclimating to it.

I see a few valid reasons for that energetically as well as physically, but I think I will try to become more accepting of the natural energy than I have been, and see where that gets me.

Finding out what kinds of rocks are prevalent is a good idea. I only know of one sought after stone a bit north of here, not sure of anything else.

I have been noting that the well water here tends to have sulfur, which irritates my skin, hair, etc. along with the dry climate.

posted March 21, 2016 01:03 PM              

As someone with a H8 Pisces Sun, I find the desert landscape here fairly repelling.
It is hot/cold, dry, and all of the plants are spiky. The hills are brown and sometimes appear burnt in summer, due to the heat turning the weeds a reddish brown.

Not pleasant for me, personally.

Also, you have a good point about the ten minutes in one direction or another.

My husband and I are considering buying my grandma's house from my mom and my aunt, so that we can keep it in our family; however, the area it's located in not only harbors some annoying human spirits, it's also just not that comfortable for me.

If we were to buy it and live there, I would have to plant a lot more trees and flowers, and keep the garden going well.

Otherwise, I would probably want to live closer to the mountains, about 15 minutes away. It's generally more pleasant out there to me.

posted March 23, 2016 01:49 AM            

I've moved places before where I had to sit and tune into the spirits-of-the-air. Not all of them are hospitable. You've got to hold-space with some of them on the periphery of their world and get a sense of them, their activity. Would have to get 'settled in' with them... Can imagine how Native Americans did that too-- holding space with them.

The other thing too, Violets? ... I listened to some talks where they were saying there was some kind of portal that opened just before the equinox (Mar 20), and that people's bodies are getting ascension symptoms... That our DNA is being worked upon. It's heavy for some-- makes some people feel as though they are ill. We're adjusting to intense energies right now.

Maybe that's part of it too?

Do you find yourself getting more edgy just before little earthquakes there?

(Good Luck with the Eclipse this morning... East Coast is at 747-800am EDT. I guess it would be 447am PDT? Maybe you will see it partial? ... Is a Lunar Full Moon Eclipse 3+degree Libra (Moon), with Sun in Aries conjunct Mercury.) Have a great day! Take good care of yourself.

posted March 23, 2016 11:03 AM              

If we're defining that in the same way, I've been asking for that consciously, to have my energy raised, and I've had a horrid flu/cold since the 18th of March. I've also been quite dizzy, but I'm pregnant so that can be par for the course.

I don't know how active the native population is here, they've never been noted to be particularly friendly towards outsiders, and the area where the tribal headquarters is located is not particularly safe for anyone, so I'm reluctant to go down there.

Interestingly, I was looking up my former karate instructor here, and he's part of the local paranormal team. Another Pisces, lol.

I'm not sure if he would be of any help, though. I've mostly been trying to tune in here and feel the energy.
For some reason the hills here have always felt...uncomfortable to me. I used to have bad dreams about the hills when I was a little girl.

The full Sun/Moon will be on my Aries Venus and Libra Pluto today, I wonder how that will be?
Hm. I think it already passed.

posted March 24, 2016 01:41 PM              

So, this is the place.
I agree about the place's energy not sitting well with you -- but also, it could (and from what I read, probably is), inherently negative.
You ever think that you have some unresolved karma with the place? Or that in a past life, you were met with cruelty here. And some of that carried over, forcing you to somehow be connected to this place till it's resolved...(?)

Also, can there be a birth chart for a place? If there is, maybe the synastry would explain the ties and the pain both.

posted March 24, 2016 01:57 PM              

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Originally posted by Elysia:
Hey Violets!

You ever think that you have some unresolved karma with the place?

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Yes. It hasn't seemed uncharacteristically familiar to me in that sense (I mean, I grew up here, so I guess it would be hard to say), but yes.

Coincidentally, as you've mentioned it, both times in my life that I've moved back here (we moved away for a few years when I was in elementary school) have been when Saturn has been conjunct my Neptune/NN, and square my Sun and Moon.

This transit just passed, and as my SN is at 5 Gemini, and my asteroid KARMA is at 16 Gemini, T Saturn is now opposing my asteroid KARMA exactly.

It does seem to be part of my path, for reasons I don't entirely understand.

There's not much history here that I've ever been able to see, and the native history is not well known at any rate.

Part of what I always disliked as a kid, in fact, was the utter lack of history or lovely buildings.
It always looked like a bland scene from Mary Tyler Moore to me, which I don't find particularly appealing.
Dull suburban '60s architecture, with dry barren hills for a backdrop. Yuck.

Anyway, that was a bit of a rant, lol.

I do find the Saturn/KARMA transits involved with me being here interesting, at any rate.

posted March 24, 2016 02:04 PM              

I see what you mean about that kind of history... But I meant, something like folk tales, that you wouldn't find in history books. Maybe you were somebody in one of those stories, which went badly.. (I know I have zero basis for this, but just something I feel is a possibility). ~ However, maybe someday you'll stumble onto the link and maybe you won't..

In the meantime, I guess, planting yourself some greenery round the house oughtta be a good start towards fending off that energy..

posted March 24, 2016 04:25 PM              

My energy just took a major hit, just reading the idiot responses on Facebook to the news report of people lining up to see Bernie Sanders here (why he's bothering with this place is beyond me ).

(That should read that there are a lot of rude, hateful responses on there that made me very angry.)

Maybe it's Tr Sun opposite my natal Pluto, but I seem to recall feeling like this pretty much all the time growing up.

posted March 24, 2016 06:40 PM            

People were generally negative there. One infuriating memory is when many couldn't park in their driveways because of all the rude people who parked for blocks around to "pray against gay marriage/Prop 8" at the Catholic Church (the same church that fought against a law that increased penalties against child trafficking and sexual abuse, both bad in the area--and I read their reasons for it, it was BS and made them look very bad in my eyes), and when it let out, one peeled out of there fast to hit a neighbor's cat. Damn, to do that while feeling self-righteous over hating the gays and having just prayed in church...

They had people who cleaned their area, but not even one inch beyond it to the point that I saw one man very careful to ONLY pick up what was on the parking lot and not just outside of it (part of the same mess). It was absurd.

Not that they were the only ones doing weird stuff like that. I once swept up a lot of broken glass by a nearby park and, thinking it was done thoughtlessly, I put up a nice poster (not intended as condescending or scolding at all, but rather the kind that would influence me if I were to read it, I really did not expect malice to be behind it) about the effects of broken glass on bike tires, skateboarding kids, animals that walk in it, etc. The response was next time I went by I saw someone (or several?) had brought a bunch of glass and busted a pile around the post with my poster on it. (Which scares me about the results of when I passed out a simple flier on buying "pet safe" antifreeze after a cat died on me, and I couldn't get a single vet to help before it was too late...I wonder how many animals were poisoned as a result because I accidentally inspired them to go buy the more dangerous antifreeze and leave it about. : puke: )

The two most notable things that make me think it fits, however, is that there was a house to me that ALWAYS had a dysfunctional family that loved to shout in it. I'm talking pure Jerry Springer behavior. They'd eventually leave (or get arrested) but someone just like them would move in, just trivial differences in how they were dysfunctional.

On the other side was also white drug dealers. There were 2 houses a block from each other and one was always a dope house that drew in terrible people. All the complaining in the world didn't seem to interest the cops in it (I figured cops preferred to use them as they were white to finger the other dealers so squashed their competition before finally getting around to them as well). They made living in that neighborhood "interesting" as well (and I had to fight valiantly against the temptation of vigilante justice one summer knowing full well the neighborhood would declare me a hero and I could probably get off as "self-defense" if I did, even with neighbors lying on my behalf, and it takes A LOT to push me to such violent temptations). And as soon as one was raided and taken to jail, another would move into one of those 2 houses and resume operations within a couple of months. I'm so glad I don't live there anymore.

posted March 24, 2016 08:56 PM              

And I just walked outside, and saw my son and my husband out in the field, and our son was riding his bike, and the sound of the doves and the other birds, and the smell of grass.

That part is nice, living in the country, and having a few friends and my family around (all two of my friends here).

posted March 25, 2016 03:54 PM              

But I noticed that I felt a bit of a significant shift last night, and still again today (I've been really sick for the past week, and not able to do much).