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Topic: Survey...What religion are you?
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fayte.m
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posted September 27, 2007 04:48 PM
 
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naiad
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posted September 28, 2007 12:35 PM
thank you for sharing so much of your research and thoughts Fayte.it's good to see all the different facets of history, religion and philosophy. and your delvings into these questions show a seeking for knowledge that is very profound. IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted September 28, 2007 02:06 PM
naiad  Thank you!
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~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
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silverstone
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posted September 28, 2007 10:03 PM
Interesting, Fayte!And I do think you should start a new topic on this, I'll share my piece. ------------------
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.
The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted September 28, 2007 10:28 PM
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libraschoice7
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posted September 28, 2007 10:44 PM
taoist I would suppose...mabe Hindu too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism ------------------
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Moon in Cancer
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Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
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MAG
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posted September 29, 2007 08:42 AM
I believe in Christ but not necessarily in the bible...
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Mannu
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posted October 01, 2007 11:18 AM
To the original post - I follow the religion of Love.I am not biased towards any one religion. They all teach u to be good. I think every child must be made aware of a higher supreme being who is his/her real parents.
Religion helps the child during the initial years. Its always adults who screws things up ...hehehe... I don't ever remember have to write down my religion. I think my Dad was asked to put that information for me and he typed in Hindu. Well, if I was to sign such a form today, then I wud sue the institution. Unless they give me a valid reason for knowing that. It appears the school systems in India and many institutions of higher learning reserve seats based on caste. Once upon a time christians were considered low caste.
The forefathers of India wanted to give an opportunity for the unpriveleged people to rise in society. If I remember they were trying to abolish the law eventually after 1970, but till date its not completely abolished.
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angel_of_hope
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posted October 01, 2007 02:16 PM
I'm not of any religion. I feel religion only seperates us all. Although I don't believe in God, I do believe there is a higher power of sorts. As for the forms, I dont fill in any optional or un-needed personal information. IP: Logged |
venusdeindia
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posted October 03, 2007 09:39 AM
fayte  ur research is amazing.
here is my dig
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The Illuminati or anyone ever told you anything about Jmmanuel (Jesus) surviving the crucifixion? The Billy Meier Plejaren Contactee Case and the Talmud of Jmmanuel seem to be legit and claim this to be true. As we all know, the ancestors of the current living Illuminati used the attempted murder crucifixion event of this spiritual teacher 'Jmmanuel' to turn him into a Satanic "God-like" figure for people to worship, thus creating a fear-based religion to control the masses of peons (us) with. It makes perfect sense, they changed his name from Jmmanuel to a latin name "Jesus", and added the "word" Christ on the end. They changed how he survived the crucifixion into a Satanic Zombie scenario where he died and resurrected like a zombie. They also added in elements like "Drink my blood (wine) and eat my body (bread) or you will burn in hell forever and ever, etc. Which is just an allegory for a satanic ritual obviously, with Vampirism and Cannibalism incorporated into the Satanic Vatican's Sunday Mass for Catholicism and Christianity worldwide. My question to you is, has anyone in the Illuminati with some secret knowledge ever told you that Jmmanuel (or the fake name we know him as, Jesus) did not die on the cross and escaped to India or anything like that? Or is that something so secret they would never admit that to anyone? The evidence is all showing that not only did this man actually exist, but alot of the stuff about him is a lie, obviously created by the Illuminati of that time, or whoever did some or all of the translating of the "Holy" Bible since the book of Mathew is essentially the falsified, altered and sensored version translated from the Talmud of Jmmanuel. I'm certainly not condoning any organized religion or the "Holy" Bible to anyone reading this, as the bible is just a bunch of Masonic coding and Truth mixed in with more Lies than anything. IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted October 03, 2007 12:07 PM
venusdeindia 
Thank you!
I deleted my posts because they should be on a thread of their own, and I have unintentionally
angered too many of a the Christian religion with my theories, so not sure I will start a new thread yet or not.Your post is correct on several points.
Gnostic and Islamic writings talk of this....
the real Yeshua/Issa and the imposter(s).
But in my opinion even they got it all wrong. ------------------
"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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fayte.m
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posted October 03, 2007 12:23 PM
Maybe I should start a thread about alternate theories/writings concerning Yeshua/Issa
and about anything Biblical.I could perhaps put a warning at the beginning:
WARNING!
IF YOU ARE A FIRM BELIEVER ABOUT THE STORY THAT JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS FOR YOUR SINS...
PLEASE DO NOT READ ANY FURTHER.  THIS THREAD IS MEANT FOR THOSE OF US WHO DO NOT BELIEVE THAT.
IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE A PLATFORM FOR ANYONE LOOKING TO START A RELIGIOUS WAR.  WE WILL RESPECT YOUR RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHAT YOU BELIEVE AND EXPECT YOU TO DO THE SAME FOR US. ADDITIONALLY...THIS THREAD IS MEANT FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD.
Well anyhow....something to that effect.
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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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naiad
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posted October 03, 2007 12:58 PM
Fayte ~  i myself believe in "Yeshua" and that his time on earth was of deep spiritual purpose. i think that the bible is incomplete and full of deliberate misinterpretation as well as manipilative editing. however, i do believe that some of the divine message remains, hidden and encoded, and that it is a holy book. i also cherish all other perspectives beyond this. such vision helps sharpen and enhance our own. so i do appreciate very much the very interesting and well thought-out ideas that you share here. i found a great book about the very advanced and occult practices of catholic priests throughout the ages. some of it involved very dark magic. there is so much in the world that lies beyond our perception...perhaps the "dark magic", so described, of the catholic church, keeps us safe from even "darker" forces....could be, how can we really know? also, i've pondered the idea that numerous pagan religions were working to establish their religions as patriarchal, and to eliminate the divine feminine, to 'demonize' it. but that the catholic church actually helped to preserve this divine feminine throughout history. so that while some may criticize the church for its patriarchal heritage, it may be the only receptacle and keeper of the knowledge of the divine feminine, hidden and kept safe from extinction. well anyway, these are just some of my musings...on other days, other possibiliites seem much more plausible.  but above all this, the need for a "religious war" simply for discussing alternative viewpoints is so medieval and regressive that i almost cannot comprehend it. such a thing does seem ridiculous in this day and age doesn't it? anticipating your impending thread.
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venusdeindia
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posted October 04, 2007 02:09 AM
FAYTE
i am signing the petition for ur thread
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silverstone
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posted October 04, 2007 03:43 AM
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fayte.m
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posted October 03, 2007 12:23 PM
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Maybe I should start a thread about alternate theories/writings concerning Yeshua/Issa
and about anything Biblical.
I could perhaps put a warning at the beginning:
WARNING!
IF YOU ARE A FIRM BELIEVER ABOUT THE STORY THAT JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS FOR YOUR SINS...
PLEASE DO NOT READ ANY FURTHER. THIS THREAD IS MEANT FOR THOSE OF US WHO DO NOT BELIEVE THAT.
IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE A PLATFORM FOR ANYONE LOOKING TO START A RELIGIOUS WAR. WE WILL RESPECT YOUR RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHAT YOU BELIEVE AND EXPECT YOU TO DO THE SAME FOR US. ADDITIONALLY...THIS THREAD IS MEANT FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD.
Well anyhow....something to that effect.
Fayte
Bring it in... you know how I feel about this. I am an open mind and not a religious freak! And I agree you should put a warning to start it. ------------------
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.
The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost IP: Logged |
TINK
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posted October 07, 2007 05:57 PM
you're a smart chick, naiad. thinking outside both the conservative and alternative box and beyond personal bias is a rare feat. as for me ...... "my hope flies with wings
beyond what hate or ignobility could make
and grows in the earth with the blue-eyed grass,
lies beyond the worst - or the best - of men"
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fayte.m
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posted October 07, 2007 06:56 PM
What should I call it?
Suggestions/ideas appreciated!RETHINKING THE BIBLE BIBLICAL RE-VISIONS THEORIES & DREAMS ????????????????
I have already written alot here on the matter in my 2 1/2 years at LL. I could try to gather it all up in a new thread.
Then of course go into farther. Would love to hear others; theories, visions, thoughts, dreams, on it all. Yes a disclaimer would be wise.
Any thread started of a religious or anti-religious nature should have a disclaimer.
I myself find misleading titles on threads very disturbing.
Like when one is expecting by a thread's title,
poetry or stories about a non Anglo culture and their history and language, but once in realizes it is not about what it looked like at first, based on the title of the thread, but is instead a thread that is blatantly Christian for example....
And horrid pictures of crucifixions posted....
And how wonderful it is that the non Christians were converted. And the subtle implication that it is a wonderful thing that their "heathen" culture and history and stories altered and destroyed of course.
I find it very unnerving and would not have read such a thread had I know it was not what the title implied. So yes, a disclaimer and warning and a careful non misleading title is required I feel. If I start such a thread I do not want myself or any folks discussing viewpoints or theories about the Christian writings to be attacked by any Christians. Nor do I want any Christians to accidentally drop in and become offended by a thread not meant for their input and opinions unless they can play nice and not preach Christian writings as absolute fact.
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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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silverstone
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posted October 07, 2007 08:44 PM
Hmmm....I like this: RETHINKING THE BIBLE IP: Logged |
silverstone
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posted October 07, 2007 08:47 PM
The so called war in heaven with the Angels... I like that piece More on the False God, so to speak  ------------------
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.
The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted October 07, 2007 09:03 PM
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If I start such a thread I do not want myself or any folks discussing viewpoints or theories about the Christian writings to be attacked by any Christians. Nor do I want any Christians to accidentally drop in and become offended by a thread not meant for their input and opinions unless they can play nice and not preach Christian writings as absolute fact.
Good luck Fayte. As it`s an open forum with many consenting adults,telling others whats allowed/not allowed is , well, a dictatorship? Unless you have a more democratic word that applys
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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~ - George Eliot IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted October 07, 2007 09:12 PM
juniperb... quote:
Good luck Fayte. As it`s an open forum with many consenting adults,telling others whats allowed/not allowed is , well, a dictatorship? Unless you have a more democratic word that applys
There are folks here at LL, myself included; who want to talk about such things freely without being stifled or condemned. I can see no other way to do it but this way and have here the support of a few to do so.
If it bothers you than just do not post on it.
Its that simple.
And please re-read the disclaimer again. And what you quoted.
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silverstone
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posted October 07, 2007 09:14 PM
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There are folks here at LL, myself included; who want to talk about such things freely without being stifled or condemned. I can see no other way to do it but this way and have here the support of a few to do so.
If it bothers you than just do not post on it.
Its that simple.
Exactly! ------------------
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.
The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost IP: Logged |
TINK
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posted October 07, 2007 10:22 PM
I think you'll be just fine, fayte. I really can't imagine anyone being truly bothered by the content of your new thread. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any hard-core, fundementalist Christians here at LL. Even those of us who might claim the title Christian are of a decidedly esoteric and/or liberal bent. Not to say you won't run into any opposing viewpoints ... but deeply offended and ready to burn the ungodly witch? nah. Nothing to fear but fear itself and all that IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted October 07, 2007 10:54 PM
Indeed tink, any theory worth it`s salt and it`s supporter will not feel threatened or condemed by an opposing view. A good debate keeps the balance , yes? ------------------
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fayte.m
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posted October 07, 2007 11:20 PM
TINK said: quote:
Even those of us who might claim the title Christian are of a decidedly esoteric and/or liberal bent.
Yes most are of a "decidedly esoteric and/or liberal bent"
But not all.
As for your other comment... quote:
but deeply offended and ready to burn the ungodly witch? nah.
Well first off I am not a witch. Second off just because one is not a Christian does not make them ungodly nor a witch. Neither does it make them agaist Jesus, only the mythos about the great teacher. So...all who are not Christians are ungodly and witches eh? 
Juniperb said: quote:
Indeed tink, any theory worth it`s salt and it`s supporter will not feel threatened or condemed by an opposing view.A good debate keeps the balance , yes?
You are totally missing my point.
When I say I theorize that for example;
Jesus did not die on the cross, I do not appreciate being preached at with the same old stock business of he died on the cross for our sins and all the rest of the mythos.
Everyone has heard that story many times!
That is not an opposing viewpoint leading to a rational discussion, that is preaching their belief as an absolute. End of discussion for that mindset. Or anger from them. How could I speak about their Lord and Saviour that way!
Well how can they crucify him over and over?
How loving.
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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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