posted February 18, 2012 11:56 AM            

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Originally posted by DOCTORaquaman:
I suppose it's entirely my fault that that was only funny to me though, as I forgot to mention a few things. To which, of course, I can only wish I could feel remorse for.

The truth is, Jews did 9/11, I created this thread because I am in all likelihood possessed by the Devil, and I know for a fact that the Antichrist is alive and well today.

Now, whether you (like an idiot) choose to die with the followers of the Christ cults or, even worse, answer the Antichrist's call to help create the utopia that is the new age...is entirely up to you. This I know.

Because I am it.

In fact, the entire scope of mankind's evolution leading up to the world as it exists today has been centered around confronting you with this once in a lifetime choice and, if it helps my fellow gangstaz and strippers here at Lindaland sleep at night, time is running out.

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posted February 18, 2012 01:03 PM            

Wasn't Lucifer created before the celestial bodies? And he certainly wasn't born on Earth. So, IMHO, he couldn't be any sign.

posted February 19, 2012 08:13 AM            

"If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand."

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posted February 20, 2012 09:48 AM            

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Originally posted by starfox:
If the Devil punishes the bad folks, doesn't that logically then make the Devil one of the good folks himself.?

"If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand."

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Good point! I'll remember that!

posted February 21, 2012 01:33 AM            

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Originally posted by DOCTORaquaman:
yeah but Aquarians love humanity though...I'd say that they are also the most fair minded (to the point of dispassion) and the most outside the box thinking too, which goes hand in hand with the fact that they are quite outside themselves (unlike their opposite Leo) that they were pretty much born to think like that. perhaps the devil is just a collection of all the negatives of every sign? Idk, I still feel like one sign represents it much closer

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Some people believe the devil is actually the savior of man from a tyrannical god. Some even say that the Serpent didn't lie to Eve and it was God who lied (and when death came it was because it was imposed, not a "natural consequence"). And if you go by the Old Testament, God really was a ******* who sent lying spirits and killed people, even babies, in tantrums (though Satan worked for him back then, IIRC.) So going by this definition, Aquarius would be perfect. (Natch, you could still give, say, a Scorp rising and Leo moon. )

Some also see the devil as merely a lie defaming the horned god. In this case I'd say Aries.

As for your interpretation of Satan, I'd say Leo IF his defining trait is pride, otherwise, Scorpio for the reason Sylvia Brown (whatever you may think of her) says: "Scorpio has a criminal mind, but these individuals can turn it to their advantage and do well in business. You will find that some of the world's greatest leaders have been of this sign." I'd definitely say Scorpio for Lucifer in Sandman (my favorite "evil Satan").

posted February 23, 2012 11:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Angels had no free will (it was a human gift). But how would that translate into the fallen angels?

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Seasons of Mists by Neil Gaiman explores this as Lucifer gives up Hell and then an angel is made by "the Name" (Christian God) to take over where Lucifer left off, and explores his (its?) conflict of unquestioning obedience and rebellion at this injustice and how it works out (and leaves it up to the reader to decide if God was wise and/or a ******* ).

posted February 28, 2012 04:17 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Seasons of Mists by Neil Gaiman explores this as Lucifer gives up Hell and then an angel is made by "the Name" (Christian God) to take over where Lucifer left off, and explores his (its?) conflict of unquestioning obedience and rebellion at this injustice and how it works out (and leaves it up to the reader to decide if God was wise and/or a ******* ).

If you'd like to see it you should be able to borrow it from your local library. If they don't have it ask the reference librarian about I-L-L (Inter Library Loan), it's usually no more than a dollar and sometimes it's for free. The title and author should be all you need to know.

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posted March 21, 2012 07:14 AM            

1) There are some articles saying that Jesus was actually born early June. (Jesus was NOT born in the winter/December: that day was chosen to commemorate his birth in order to give would-be Christians a holiday that rivaled the old pagan holidays that they celebrated at the time).
http://www.christianpost.com/news/researchers-jesus-was-born-in-june-35865/

Thus, God would be Gemini, if this is true. It makes sense, to me at least. I believe in the trinity, and Gemini is THE sign of multiples.

So, Sagittarius would be the opposite sign of Gemini. Good and evil. Light and dark. Heaven and hell. Opposites.

Sagittarius sun also offers a lot of Scorpio placements, given its proximity to that sign. (I noticed a lot of people suggesting Scorpio as the devil's sign).

I'd say that the devil probably has some Aquarian or possibly Aries placements, since he rebelled against God--maybe ASC Aquarius or Aries, the 'rebellious' signs.

Scorpio Mercury, definitely. Highly intelligent, calculating.

posted April 05, 2012 05:17 AM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I'm going to say Sagittarius

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Have you ever read To Reign in Hell? I read it over 10 years ago and though my recollection is on the fuzzy side I believe Satan was the good guy, the one I rooted for in the war in Heaven. Basically, the war wasn't one of good vs. evil but of freedom vs. dictatorship, and there was good and evil on both sides which made it a very interesting story to me, especially as I could sympathize with characters on both sides of the war. I mention it because Satan did seem pretty Sag to me, as best as I recall: witty, philosophical, restless, freedom loving, and sometimes tactless & careless. Sag isn't a perfect fit, but I think it's the closest one.

posted April 05, 2012 06:04 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Have you ever read To Reign in Hell? I read it over 10 years ago and though my recollection is on the fuzzy side I believe Satan was the good guy, the one I rooted for in the war in Heaven. Basically, the war wasn't one of good vs. evil but of freedom vs. dictatorship, and there was good and evil on both sides which made it a very interesting story to me, especially as I could sympathize with characters on both sides of the war. I mention it because Satan did seem pretty Sag to me, as best as I recall: witty, philosophical, restless, freedom loving, and sometimes tactless & careless. Sag isn't a perfect fit, but I think it's the closest one.

Anyway, I just saw the Jasmine arc in s4 Angel and remembered it. Jasmine was a higher being, a rogue angel so to speak, who came to take away the suffering of Earth and create paradise...at the cost of everybody's free will (but everyone is so happy and loving that they don't care, which I believe Revelations promises the new Heaven and Earth will be like)...and when the heroes prevailed against this villainy (?) the world is wracked with despair and violence, pleasing the demons that free will had been restored. Jasmine was a poor sport about it, too, just as one of the major supporters of "God" was in TRiH (it would be too much of a spoiler to give the details of either story). I liked how it didn't clearly show what the right thing to do was but left it up to the viewer. And, as I say, it reminded me of To Reign in Hell which in turn reminded me of this thread again.

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