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katatonic
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posted July 24, 2012 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i see forgiveness as being for the one doing the forgiving. i don't find it difficult, because no matter how disgusting someone's behaviour or morals may seem, i know i have been pigheaded and WRONGheaded plenty of times myself...not from malice or lack of wanting to do right, but most often the opposite!

in other words, the more we BELIEVE in certain principles, the easier to justify the hurt we may do to others because it is "right" or "righteous"?

people are where they are on their path. as am i...

that does not mean that i continue to allow someone to step on me or even be in my life if i feel they are abusive (in any way).. but that i don't set myself up as their judge because i know too well others have (and do) judged me...

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posted July 25, 2012 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yin:
Happens to me all the time. Should have learned my lesson by now, but I'm afraid that my faith in humanity would be the last to go.

Hi, miss T. Good to see you again.


Mine come and goes these days, unfortunately.

& hi! & ((hugs))

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posted July 25, 2012 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
kat,

also, i find it slightly peculiar when someone demands that you forgive them and won't understand that you don't feel you need to.

To me it shows that they know they did something(s) that they know they should not have and deep down feel bad about it. But instead of admitting it and saying SORRY (& actually meaning it), they would rather have you simply forgive them and make their life (guilt) easier to live with.

Not happening anymore.

I've done enough forgiving for a few lifetimes. There comes a time when it's best to just let the person go. Or escort them out of your life's door.

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posted July 27, 2012 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There comes a time when it's best to just let the person go. Or escort them out of your life's door..

for sure. forgiveness does not mean coming back for more!

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posted August 01, 2012 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emeraldopal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 19, 2012 10:45 AM
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Part VII
Tasawwuf: Metaphysics

GATHA II

1. Forgiveness

They say, 'Forgive and forget.', which is very expressive of the process of forgiveness. It is impossible to forgive unless you can forget. What keeps man from forgiving his fellow man is that he holds the fault of another constantly before his view. It is just like sticking a little thorn in one's own heart and keeping it there and suffering the pain. It may also be pictured as putting a drop of poison in one's own heart and retaining it until the whole heart becomes poisoned. Verily, blessed are the innocent, who do not notice anybody's fault, and the greater credit is to the mature souls, who, recognizing a fault, forget it and so forgive. How true are the words of Christ, 'Let those throw a stone who have not sinned.' The limitations of human life make man subject to faults. Some have more faults, some have less, but there is no soul without faults. As Christ says, 'Call me not good.' 1

Forgiveness is a stream of love, which washes away all impurities wherever it flows. By keeping this spring of love, which is in the heart of man, running, man is able to forgive, however great the fault of his fellow man may seem. One who cannot forgive closes his heart. The sign of spirituality is that there is nothing you cannot forgive, there is no fault you cannot forget. Do not think that he who has committed a fault yesterday must do the same today, for life is constantly teaching and it is possible in one moment a sinner may turn into a saint.

At times it is hard to forgive, as it is hard to take away the thorn that has gone deep into one's heart. But the pain that one feels in taking away the thorn deepest in the heart is preferable to keeping the thorn in the heart constantly. The greater pain of a moment is better than the mild pricking going on constantly. Ask him who forgives what relief there is in forgiveness. Words can never explain the feeling of the heart when one has cast out the bitter feeling from one's heart by forgiving and when love spreads all over within oneself, circulating like warm blood through one's whole being.


Hazrat Inayat Khan
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If one forgets, how will one
Learn and Grow?

We learn because we remember
what has happened..we forgive
because we understand by not
forgetting what has happended..

Know ThySelf, and Remember who
you are, and what you've done!

I forgive, O don't forget. ...

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All my love, with all my Heart
lotusheartone

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