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Topic: How Do Astrological Views of Reincarnation Fit in With Biblical Views?
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Emeraldopal Knowflake Posts: 1482 From: U Registered: Apr 2011
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posted May 24, 2012 01:59 PM
more interesting stuff. ... http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.html ------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 4051 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2012 04:36 PM
Ami Anne, I don`t believe in the Rapture as many do. I will be happy to look at your specific Biblcal references about the rapture tho. ------------------ Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. ~Rumi~ IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 32419 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 24, 2012 07:21 PM
Juni If you want to look up the Rapture, I would be happy to help you wade through the Scriptures. If you want to do Google Search and come back with info, I will answer any questions, to the best of my ability. However, I can't do a study from the beginning now, as I am fortunate that my website is really busy and I am trying to finish up some charts that are taking me a long time.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 4051 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2012 07:40 PM
Ami Anne, I know the Bible very well and am aware of the different intpretations. I have studied Holy Texts for over 30 years with many Scholars. I am interested in your belief and if you will point the Bibical way, I will then be able to have some clarity on your beliefs and why you believe as you do. Thank you for the advice on googling tho  ------------------ Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. ~Rumi~ IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 32419 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 24, 2012 08:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by juniperb: Ami Anne, I know the Bible very well and am aware of the different intpretations. I have studied Holy Texts for over 30 years with many Scholars. I am interested in your belief and if you will point the Bibical way, I will then be able to have some clarity on your beliefs and why you believe as you do. Thank you for the advice on googling tho 
I would need you to do the research and get the related Scriptures, if you would like me to comment on it, Juni. I would be trying to help you, as I know what I believe lol ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal
http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 4051 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2012 08:16 PM
The problem with that Ami Anne is related Scripture will differ to us. I am requesting your related Scripture. Since I do not believe there is a Bibical Rapture Fundalmentalists believe in, I am inquiring your faiths specifics to understand you. If you can`t provide the Scripture, I understand. IF you do, I will then give you my belief in what that specific Scripture relates to. ------------------ Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. ~Rumi~ IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 32419 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 24, 2012 08:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by juniperb: The problem with that Ami Anne is related Scripture will differ to us. I am requesting your related Scripture. Since I do not believe there is a Bibical Rapture Fundalmentalists believe in, I am inquiring your faiths specifics to understand you. If you can`t provide the Scripture, I understand. IF you do, I will then give you my belief in what that specific Scripture relates to.
Ok Juni When I get my head up from under water in my website, I will do it. It is not easy installing and learning to use computer programs for charts etc, as you may imagine. That is what I am trying to figure out now. I think I just deleted the whole thing, by accident  ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 32419 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 24, 2012 09:15 PM
As soon as I get clear thinking, I will write an article on the Rapture complete with Scriptures, as I know that people are interested. The most amazing study, but it is very detailed, is Les Feldick on the study of how Noah's Arc is a picture of the Rapture down to exact details. Each O.T event is the shadow of a a NT event/person. For example, Joseph was a picture of Jesus. Joseph was the only person in the Bible with no sin, or none pictured. All others were shown as human and making mistakes. In the OT, it is concealed. In the NT, it is revealed. Anyway, I am not sure I can go back and go through the whole Noah's Arc study as it is a lot, but you could look up Les Feldick if you want as he is super intellectual but super clear and interesting.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 4051 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2012 09:55 PM
Lovely, I will be waiting  ------------------ Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. ~Rumi~ IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 32419 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 24, 2012 10:39 PM
Thank you, Juni  ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 18563 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2012 09:14 AM
Interesting convo.------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 2940 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 25, 2012 01:33 PM
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RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 2778 From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop Registered: Sep 2011
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posted May 25, 2012 06:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by juniperb: Ami Anne, I don`t believe in the Rapture as many do. I will be happy to look at your specific Biblcal references about the rapture tho.
I don't believe in the "rapture" either. Most Protestants and Catholics and Orthodox whom I know don't. I'm not going to argue about it or get into it, but I'll simply say that it's not a universally-held Christian belief, for those unfamiliar with Christianity. (My only intent is to clarify this for people out there who may not be familiar with differing opinions within Christianity). I will also say that there is a lot of debate and differing opinions on how to interpret different books. So, no one is "right" or "wrong" and I'd like for that topic to stay civil, conversational, and not get to the point that feelings get hurt or it gets out of hand. And, again, I'd prefer that a new thread be started, since this one is for reincarnation. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 2778 From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop Registered: Sep 2011
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posted May 25, 2012 06:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: As soon as I get clear thinking, I will write an article on the Rapture complete with Scriptures, as I know that people are interested. The most amazing study, but it is very detailed, is Les Feldick on the study of how Noah's Arc is a picture of the Rapture down to exact details. Each O.T event is the shadow of a a NT event/person. For example, Joseph was a picture of Jesus. Joseph was the only person in the Bible with no sin, or none pictured. All others were shown as human and making mistakes. In the OT, it is concealed. In the NT, it is revealed. Anyway, I am not sure I can go back and go through the whole Noah's Arc study as it is a lot, but you could look up Les Feldick if you want as he is super intellectual but super clear and interesting.
If I may, though, could you please post it as a separate thread? The original topic of this was reincarnation, so I'd kind of like to get it back to that point; no disrespect intended or anything.
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RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 2778 From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop Registered: Sep 2011
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posted May 25, 2012 06:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Bad things happening to good people and good things happening to bad can be summed up in what and how people think (whether reincarnation is true or not). To get Biblical with it: "As ye sow, so shall ye reap." We can sow the seeds of positive thoughts or negative thoughts. We attract much of what we experience in life with our thoughts. Good people can think negative thoughts and be their own worst enemy. Also Biblical (in Proverbs) is: "As a man thinketh, so is he."
Hadn't thought of that right now on this topic; I appreciate the insight! IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 2778 From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop Registered: Sep 2011
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posted May 25, 2012 06:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aquacheeka: I know what the bible says (well, in one section, anyway), I am just curious how a person rectifies their belief in astrology with their belief in biblical teachings. Technically, it's blasphemous and "a sin" to follow astrology/divination altogether, not to mention celebrity fandom/celebrity worship, also against biblical teachings.Having said that, I am well aware that there are multiple interpretations one can make and extract to whatever situation, as well as blatant and obvious contradictions within the bible ("an eye for an eye/turn the other cheek" etc.) so I can also sort of see how a Christian can come to embrace the principle of reincarnation and not feel that it is at odds with their biblical beliefs.
Actually, plenty of Christians studied astrology long ago. Studying astrology isn't bad. It's worshiping the stars that's bad. It's denying God's control over the stars that's considered bad. This article is too long to post in its entirety even with a citation, but it covers this topic very well: http://www.astrologyzine.com/astrology-bible.shtml IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 32419 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 25, 2012 09:30 PM
No Problem. I will start a new thread on the Rapture------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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depth Knowflake Posts: 242 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted May 26, 2012 08:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aquacheeka: ^That pretty much sums it up.Astrology teaches us that we reincarnate until all of our karmic "lessons" are learned; biblical dogma insists that the "good" go directly to heaven; do not pass Go, do not collect $200. One question astrology does not really answer is what becomes of the consciousness after the final incarnation? (Perhaps it is actually Buddhism that answers this and my own ignorance is the problem). It's also curious that the bible makes no direct mention of reincarnation given its many astrotheological references and metaphors. Obviously such a declaration would conflict with its own notions of heaven but the bible is not lacking for contradictions within itself anyways. How does a metaphysically-minded Christian rectify the two?
I've nothing to say about reincarnation. Maybe, we do. Maybe, we don't. Just because a nutter says we do, doesn't mean we do. And just because another nutter says we don't, doesn't disprove the theory. I don't associate the nodes, Saturn,etc, etc. with past lives. That's a different branch of astrology. If you want to believe in it, you believe. If you don't want to, you don't. Jesus said married christian couples shouldn't divorce/separate, yet they do. He also said no to 'fornication' but we all know that countless christian kids become sexually active around the age of 14. The Bible is self-contradictory in nature & I don't believe in a Bible that made Eve look stupid & Adam, the wise one. Buddhists in the first place shouldn't believe in a god. Buddha himself was an atheist/agnostic. According to him, a person after death begins a new life cycle in a different body & this continues till he/she has resolved his/her past bad karma & learnt to detach from the material world. Once free, he/she attains salvation/nirvana. One popular sect believes we merge with god. The traditional sect believes that we live happily ever after(in the universe). If we want, we can come back to enlighten those who seek the path to eternal bliss. IP: Logged |