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Topic: Iran: "We Can Hit 35 US Bases In Minutes"
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 19900 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 06, 2012 04:59 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/iran-hit-35-us-bases-minutes-151115760--abc-news-topstories.html IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 8298 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2012 12:34 AM
Blah blah more big talk from babies.IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 1849 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 13, 2012 09:58 AM
Disturbing images from Iran you rarely see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98j0I7e5OHE IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 3229 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted July 13, 2012 09:03 PM
Too bad there are enough bombers that can take off from Diego Garcia and Aviano within those few minutes that will assure Iran's total and utter destruction just using conventional munitions. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 1849 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 13, 2012 09:24 PM
Too bad Christians are okay with that.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 34370 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 13, 2012 09:35 PM
Well, there is a time for war and a time for peace. The Book of Eccleiastes (sp) says that there is a time for all things. A Christian does not have to be anti-war, as there are righteous wars.IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 1849 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 13, 2012 09:55 PM
It's mainly about oil and natural gas.I used to be a neocon. Then my research convinced me that I had been misled to believe a colossal pack of lies. It was agonizing for me to come to terms with my own conscience, once I realized that I had wished for the destruction of innocent people. It feels much better in my heart, and more in line with my values, to see the truth and know that I am on the side of peace. I won't wish for anyone else to die, much less a whole country. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 8298 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 14, 2012 07:35 AM
Time for war and time for peace, YES. It's natural for people to seek progress, but progress isn't and will never be universally defined.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 34370 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 14, 2012 12:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: It's mainly about oil and natural gas.I used to be a neocon. Then my research convinced me that I had been misled to believe a colossal pack of lies. It was agonizing for me to come to terms with my own conscience, once I realized that I had wished for the destruction of innocent people. It feels much better in my heart, and more in line with my values, to see the truth and know that I am on the side of peace. I won't wish for anyone else to die, much less a whole country.
While mankind inhabits this earth, there will be war(s), as it is in the nature of man, when his nature is unchanged by God, as most people's will not be. Hence, wishing it were not so, will not change it.
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 8350 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 14, 2012 01:10 PM
congratulations faith on being aware enough to be able to change your mind on things. everything is possible to those who insist on using their brains...while it may be true that we cannot just STOP at this moment it is a noble aim to work toward peace on earth. i too believe that it is possible, however naive it might seem, to at least revert to concentrating on a defense so strong it does not need to obliterate whole nations. iran is taking a macho stance now, but it would take the wind out of their sails if america suddenly proved she was NOT an agressor...then how would they justify their bragging? i doubt this is a scenario for the next decade(though anything is possible) but one day a commander in chief will see the benefit of retrieving the huge portion of our budget spent not on DEFENSE, as it is described, but pre-emptive OFFENSE and holding stations all over the world...but first some way of transferring the profits and jobs sustained by the military industry will probably have to be found... in the meantime, as you may have noticed, any attempts at diplomacy in place of aggression is mocked and repudiated by those who have given up on "human nature". IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 34370 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 14, 2012 01:37 PM
Kat Peace won't happen. YOU can think it will, but look around, do you see it happening  ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 8350 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 14, 2012 01:59 PM
yet, one has to wonder how switzerland has managed to keep its independent neutrality all these years. a tiny little country which DOES have conscription, every male of 18 has to serve, BUT they have never waged war on anyone or needed to USE their army. anything is POSSIBLE. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 34370 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 14, 2012 02:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by katatonic: yet, one has to wonder how switzerland has managed to keep its independent neutrality all these years. a tiny little country which DOES have conscription, every male of 18 has to serve, BUT they have never waged war on anyone or needed to USE their army. anything is POSSIBLE.
Yes, but that is ONE country. I am talking the world  ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 1849 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 14, 2012 02:20 PM
Switzerland is defying the US, EU ban on Iranian oil.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 34370 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 14, 2012 02:45 PM
I mean, Denmark would not allow them to take it's Jews. There is, always, some good out there. I am talking worldwide, not small enclaves of peace.IP: Logged |
doommlord Knowflake Posts: 574 From: israel Registered: Dec 2011
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posted July 14, 2012 03:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by katatonic: yet, one has to wonder how switzerland has managed to keep its independent neutrality all these years. a tiny little country which DOES have conscription, every male of 18 has to serve, BUT they have never waged war on anyone or needed to USE their army. anything is POSSIBLE.
in my opinion this is not impossible...but more a dream than possible reality... people will always find reasons to fight one another...religion...greed...hunger for power..etc this is just a bad side of humanity...and many die to feed needs that will never be met but this is how the world works if we will find...in some strange way...to change some of humanities basic behaviour we will then have peace on earth but again how can we find something that is capable of such change...and in such a global scale? i think we should always belive and strive for peace...but prepare for war... IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 34370 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 14, 2012 06:53 PM
Beautifully said, DL  IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 8350 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 14, 2012 09:20 PM
i think we should always belive and strive for peace...but prepare for war...agreed, doomlord, but "prepare" is not the same as "perpetrate" or "perpetuate" IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 3229 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted July 14, 2012 09:30 PM
The more tears and sweat you put out in peace time in preparation for war, the less blood flows in the gutter when war strikes. Unilaterally bidding for peace when the Opfor seeks your total annihilation is not more than naïveté. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 34370 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 14, 2012 10:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: The more tears and sweat you put out in peace time in preparation for war, the less blood flows in the gutter when war strikes. Unilaterally bidding for peace when the Opfor seeks your total annihilation is not more than naïveté.
Nuclear thumbs up, if you will excuse the metaphor  ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 3229 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted July 15, 2012 12:26 AM
My Jewish cousins know it too well, and they never take peace for granted. They teach me to keep my friends close, and my enemies closer. I was trained by the best: by God's children. By the people who protect the Holy Land. They taught me well. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 3229 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted July 15, 2012 12:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Nuclear thumbs up, if you will excuse the metaphor 
Ami, That's a Hebrew saying. Developed upon the conclusion of the 1948 conflict.
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 1849 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 15, 2012 12:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: The more tears and sweat you put out in peace time in preparation for war, the less blood flows in the gutter when war strikes. Unilaterally bidding for peace when the Opfor seeks your total annihilation is not more than naïveté.
WHO is the Opfor now? That's the question. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 648 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 15, 2012 05:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Well, there is a time for war and a time for peace. The Book of Eccleiastes (sp) says that there is a time for all things. A Christian does not have to be anti-war, as there are righteous wars.
Just out of curiosity how do you reconcile this with not judging others (Matthew 7:1-2, Luke 6:37, Romans 2:1), turning the other cheek (Matthew 5:38–5:48), bless them that curse you (Luke 6:27–31), and the Golden Rule (Matthew 7:12, Luke 6:31)?  And what do you think of how the war is being waged so far, like using drones to bomb funerals where many families (with children and pregnant women) are at, disaster sites (thus killing good samaritans and what passes for the fire department) and the like? Is this righteous or heinous? And if the US goes to war with Iran, do you think the US should use the same tactics as Iraq did when they invaded Iran? If not, then how should our tactics differ? Of course anyone who says they follow the teachings of Jesus can answer. I'm genuinely curious how one works this out. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 34370 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 15, 2012 08:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: My Jewish cousins know it too well, and they never take peace for granted. They teach me to keep my friends close, and my enemies closer. I was trained by the best: by God's children. By the people who protect the Holy Land. They taught me well.
Love you, Ian  ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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