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Ami Anne
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posted August 29, 2012 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread is really helping me. I have not had an autobiographical place since the days when I took up all of Sweet peas

I am glad those days are over. My gratitude to Randall for putting up with me is a lifelong one. A person must speak their truth. That is why I encourage others. It is all well and fine if you look pretty and people love you, but if you are dying inside, what good does it do? I suppose that is my motto and kind of my passion to help others. I want to say"Express yourself--the YOU of you". Get dirty, look bad. I had to do this or I would die. It comes down to that sometimes.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me, I think my answer to being whole, which has been my singular search is to look evil in the face and not to flinch.

You can imagine how hard this would be for me, with my background. Evil was too present for me, when I was young and had not words or no context for it. I just went into a little ball, inside, and tried not to go insane.

Fast forward to now. Evil is present in humans. The Bible tells us that. We all have a Nessus( the asteroid of pure abuse with no thought for the other)

Some people are called to deal with nessus in a more prominent manner, but we all have one.

I suppose this is my singular path which is opening. Can I face evil? Up to this point I have run from it. People think Christians are supposed to be wimps. That is not the truth. We are supposed to be strong. Jesus was not a wimp. He had righteous anger and was not reluctant to turn over the tables in the temple in anger.

Hence, when evil encroaches on me, I can kick it back.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But sincerely self deceived is a Malignant Narcissist. They destroys others while thinking they are perfect.


The only difference is perceived success Ami A.

Sadly enough, seemingly successful people can be narcissists, unsuccessful ones have hearts of gold.

AND sincerely self deceived does not always mean narcissism, it simply can mean ingrained information or world views that are simply based on faulty information or upbringing or even falling under the influence of the wrong person.

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posted August 29, 2012 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The one sign of a Malignant Narc beyond all others is never looking at themselves. That is diagnostic. Hence, blaming others who see them, as they are. The other is trying to look perfect, with no flaws.

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posted August 29, 2012 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know Malignant Narcs. I wish I didn't but I do. I know them like the back of my hand. They are evil

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posted August 29, 2012 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The one sign of a Malignant Narc beyond all others is never looking at themselves. That is diagnostic. Hence, blaming others who see them, as they are. The other is trying to look perfect, with no flaws.


Eh, then again, to much self examination leads to -0- confidence, and pretty much everyone is reluctant to seem less than perfect.

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posted August 29, 2012 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, the unexamined life is not worth living.
I can't control Mal Narcs. I just need to learn to cut off the snake head of evil( and I will)

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posted August 29, 2012 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A whole person has to have every tool in his tool box. He has to be kind. He has to be gentle. He has to be humble. He has to identity evil and kick it away from himself( and others, if he sees evil afflicting others) Then, and only then, will he be whole.

Then, he has to face evil in himself, as he has it, too. If you don't face evil in yourself, you are as bad as the Mal Narc. So, the whole thing comes full circle, as things are wont to do

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posted August 29, 2012 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No, the unexamined life is not worth living.
I can't control Mal Narcs. I just need to learn to cut off the snake head of evil( and I will)


Self examination often leads to crippling self doubt.

Glib phrases won't work here Ami A.

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posted August 29, 2012 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Self examination often leads to crippling self doubt.

Glib phrases won't work here Ami A.



To me, a person is shallow who does not know himself. To thine own self be true. You have to know what you are being true to.
Also, you can never have true intimacy, of you don't know yourself.
Methinks thou doth protect too much

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posted August 29, 2012 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seriously speaking, Padre, you will never have an intimate relationship until you know who you are.
If you are trying to have one but refuse to look inside and truly know yourself, at a deep level, it will never happen.
For me, I would only respect a guy who knows who he is and is not afraid to look inside. I would have no attraction to someone who could not face himself, in all his nooks and crannies.
I agree with Jung, that one must face himself in order to be a self actualized human being and an authentic person.( Maslow is the self actualization theory but Jung believes in fearless self honesty )
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posted August 29, 2012 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Tsk tsk Ami A:

"Vanity, vanity, it is all vanity"

Some old wise dude with a beard said that..

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posted August 30, 2012 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Tsk tsk Ami A:

"Vanity, vanity, it is all vanity"

Some old wise dude with a beard said that..


I guess you and I are just different types of people. I am very exploring of emotional depths. It is just who I am and people like it or don't.
Everyone is different. Blessings

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posted August 31, 2012 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

When Solomon penned that, he was considered the wisest man in the world, and even he thought it is all merely vanity.

I USED to be introspective and whatnot, all that accomplished was to over think/over analyze everything.

No thanks.

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posted August 31, 2012 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:

When Solomon penned that, he was considered the wisest man in the world, and even he thought it is all merely vanity.

I USED to be introspective and whatnot, all that accomplished was to over think/over analyze everything.

No thanks.


I think I know where you are coming from and I have had this discussion with many people. *I* believe, not no everyone agrees, that you have to go in, before you can come out.

Otherwise, you are harboring a lot of feelings which will run your life, and so not facing them won't help.

However, I know many people who don't look at it that way.

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posted September 01, 2012 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think I know where you are coming from and I have had this discussion with many people. *I* believe, not no everyone agrees, that you have to go in, before you can come out.

Otherwise, you are harboring a lot of feelings which will run your life, and so not facing them won't help.

However, I know many people who don't look at it that way.



Oh sure, just keep in mind that going in is just a pathway to coming out the other side, the old saw of "if you are going through hell, keep going".


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posted September 01, 2012 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, you must come out the other side. However, I think you will if you let God lead you. Then, you get wisdom and depth in the process, too

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posted September 02, 2012 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes, you must come out the other side. However, I think you will if you let God lead you. Then, you get wisdom and depth in the process, too


Dear sister, my relationship with the Most High is admittedly very unorthodox, difficult to explain this do let me try.

The odder, the more over the top, the stranger angles I take..the more positive feedback I receive.

Do not like using "I" in this..not at all.

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sorry you had such a mother ami. no child deserves to be injured by those who should nurture them. i feel sorry for your mother too, who must have had some childhood herself. that is not the same as excusing her behaviour...

though jesus got angry in the temple, he also taught to "resist not evil" because what you resist is bound to GROW. and to identify evil outside yourself is to deceive yourself - that it is outside. the world is within us.

better to acknowledge the evil within yourself. better still to realize that MUCH evil is simply the result of erroneous thinking.

we see the world through a filter which refracts reality into something we can understand. if we see much evil it is because we are still using the filter that transmits the information thus. and so we perpetuate the same reality indefinitely.

that is why forgiveness is so important...to the forgiver. not because love will change the abusive behaviour, but because seeing others as versions of ourselves is the first step to removing evil from our lives.

louise hay suffered abusive men for half her life. after working on herself, not them, she got to a place where, as she put it "an abusive man won't even know i am around"...through forgiveness, not accusation and returning abuse.

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posted September 03, 2012 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Katatonic

I agree!!

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posted September 03, 2012 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Kat

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