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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 36014 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted August 27, 2012 02:18 PM One imprint of divinity on the Bible is that it does not show man in a good light. Man wants to make himself look good. In the Bible, man is likened to a sheep, not some glorious animal like the eagle. Again and again, human nature is shown to be very ugly. I am dealing with these kinds of things, now, so thought I would do a thread on it. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 36014 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted August 27, 2012 04:32 PM People who had childhood abuse had evil foisted on them. Hence, they often run away from evil when they see it in their current life. They go on tilt and kind of freeze. That is what I have done, as I could not face it in anyone, let alone myself. I did this thread for all the people who are like I am. They can't face evil, so run from it. That won't work. One must face the evil in others, and in themselves. If not, one will go through life as one legged. One will never be able to defend oneself. People will give you enough chances to face evil, Everyone has a person or two to deal with this, in this context. That won't change, so what does one do? Learn to face it, in others. Learn to face it in oneself. As I get more successful, I have more evil come to me, in the way of jealousy. When you have been abused, you are afraid of jealousy, as you are afraid of evil. I am beginning to be able to call evil when I see it. I am beginning to be able to push it away from myself. That can all be summed up in the words" Be as WISE as serpents, as gentle as doves" Many abused people are gentle but not wise. Hence, they get abused again and again. I know some people will be able to relate, as is always the case when I share my heart ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 428 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012	posted August 27, 2012 07:53 PM Yes and No. What I mean by this is truly evil people are very rare in societies, no one is altogether bad, or altogether good. The Word makes this very clear, a digression but those who are thought of as saints in the Word often were rather dualistic. For myself, this sort of dichotomy is one of the things that has led me to have an interest in Astrology beyond that designed for average person consumption. The Word does expose how bad people can be, individually though, it does not speak to a 21st century day to day life imvvho. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 36014 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted August 27, 2012 08:07 PM quote: Originally posted by Padre35: Yes and No. What I mean by this is truly evil people are very rare in societies, no one is altogether bad, or altogether good. The Word makes this very clear, a digression but those who are thought of as saints in the Word often were rather dualistic. For myself, this sort of dichotomy is one of the things that has led me to have an interest in Astrology beyond that designed for average person consumption. The Word does expose how bad people can be, individually though, it does not speak to a 21st century day to day life imvvho. Scott Peck, a Christian, has the definitive word on evil imho It is lies. Evil is lying to oneself about who one is. Hence, one can commit all sorts of lies on others, as it is a house of lies sigh ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
ShyVirgo1979 Knowflake Posts: 1167 From: Registered: May 2011	posted August 27, 2012 10:55 PM I may perhaps understand what u mean. I'm not sure. If u define evil as one who lies to themselves and therefore lies to others, than yes. Evil is a harsh word to me to use, but it does exist.....its taken me a few yrs to c ppl how they r. I'm still not fully "awake" and u may not get that part. But I'm getting there. The part about being abused as a child and then running away from it in their current life is true. I don't cope well when witnessing rage in someone. I actually have panic attacks from it and want to run away. This after I freeze. I quit watching the news back in 03 bc I got tired of hearing new stories about children being beaten or kidnapped or any other acts or rage. I do believe there r many kind humans out there so I don't wanna view everyone as evil. And no one is perfect and that's coming from a virgo lol we all make mistakes. Even me still sighhhhhh.....But I'm starting to c how human nature is for some. Certain ones I'm better off avoiding. I hope this makes sense to u ami. It does to me lol IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 36014 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted August 27, 2012 11:04 PM quote: Originally posted by ShyVirgo1979: I may perhaps understand what u mean. I'm not sure. If u define evil as one who lies to themselves and therefore lies to others, than yes. Evil is a harsh word to me to use, but it does exist.....its taken me a few yrs to c ppl how they r. I'm still not fully "awake" and u may not get that part. But I'm getting there. The part about being abused as a child and then running away from it in their current life is true. I don't cope well when witnessing rage in someone. I actually have panic attacks from it and want to run away. This after I freeze. I quit watching the news back in 03 bc I got tired of hearing new stories about children being beaten or kidnapped or any other acts or rage. I do believe there r many kind humans out there so I don't wanna view everyone as evil. And no one is perfect and that's coming from a virgo lol we all make mistakes. Even me still sighhhhhh.....But I'm starting to c how human nature is for some. Certain ones I'm better off avoiding. I hope this makes sense to u ami. It does to me lol Yes, I am glad this touched you, SV. Evil is not facing oneself and so having to guard one's lies. Then, one inflicts this on others as one will do anything not to face himself. This is a person of the lie, as Peck calls it. If one faces oneself, one is not evil. It is the unwillingness to face oneself that creates it. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
ShyVirgo1979 Knowflake Posts: 1167 From: Registered: May 2011	posted August 28, 2012 07:52 AM "Person of the lie".....I've never heard that term. When I posted my comment, I was thinking of what happened to a friend of mine yesterday. One of my best friends, who is a scorpio, met someone online last weekend. He lives in the same city as us. They had been chatting vis txts for awhile, he seemed nice, acted interested in her. She just found out yesterday from someone (who would never lie to her) that this guy has a girlfriend and tried to lie about it he finally admittd it but only after lots and lots of evidence, as this city isn't overly huge and my friend used to babysit this woman's children. How sad I don't understand y some ppl think they need to lie like that. My friend went to the movies with him sat, went out to dinner and paid for all of it bc she's just nice like that. Needless to say she told him to lose her number. That's just proof u should never deceive a scorpio bc they will find out! Lol I don't know if this is the kind of person u r talking about but it rang a bell with me. I think ppl of the lie should all just cluster together and have their own continent and stay away from the good ppl. Hmmph. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 36014 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted August 28, 2012 09:20 AM quote: I think ppl of the lie should all just cluster together and have their own continent and stay away from the good ppl. Hmmph. Actually, the opposite is the case. You will never confront evil if you don't have them around. They are like the sand in the oyster shell. It makes the pearl. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 36014 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted August 28, 2012 09:56 AM I have not shared my journey for a long time, as I was more living my life than talking about it, but now I come to a fork in the road where I must confront evil and call it for what it is. I won't be able to go on to the next step if I don't. To me, evil is a concept which the Bible tells us about and tells us how to deal with, so I will share my current journey with all who care to come along( and to share their own experiences) ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 36014 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted August 28, 2012 09:59 AM For those of you who don't know my story, my mother molested me, so I had to deal with evil, way too early. I had no means for doing so, so I froze. This brings me to the present where I must learn to confront evil and push it away from me. Also, side by side with that, I must face it, in myself. It is a daunting journey, but one I must take. Perhaps, all humans must. I will take it in the context of the Bible. That is why I am talking about it here, rather than Sweet peas. The Bible provides all answers for daily living as it is the Owners Manual for man. I will be back, later, bit hope some of you will accompany me, on this journey to the soul. The unexplored life is not worth living ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 36014 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted August 28, 2012 10:05 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MjuEqaSWmk ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 36014 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted August 28, 2012 10:31 AM I really, really hate this. When I was a kid, I started reading books by Evan Hunter. They are about evil in every day life: how people get away with evil in every day settings. I read most all of them. I could feel evil. I knew how to push it away from me, as a cell wall pushes away poison. Then, I just had too much abuse and I gave up. Hence, I ad to avoid situations and people, as I could not push evil off me. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. You have to be able to have this tool at your disposal or you will be road kill somewhere along the way( and it won't be long) Look at how the people treated Princess Di when she was stripped of her royal title. They treated her badly because their evil had free reign, but it was there all the time. The Bible clearly tells one what to do with evil. One cannot hold hatred inside themselves. Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord. That is the answer to the long and winding road of dealing with evil people( and we all must) I have to put the evil people in God's hands. It is killing me. I do that, now, and I will pray for them. Thanks for listening. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 428 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012	posted August 28, 2012 02:40 PM I think there is a difference between a "lie" and "self deceit/self deception". A lie is the outward symptom of self deceit, and it is very possible to be sincerely self deceived. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 36014 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted August 28, 2012 03:50 PM But sincerely self deceived is a Malignant Narcissist. They destroys others while thinking they are perfect. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Jovian Knowflake Posts: 205 From: US Registered: May 2012	posted August 28, 2012 03:56 PM Ami, I respect you for your ongoing commitment to work on yourself and to try to understand others. I have read that M. Scott Peck book, "People of the Lie." ...Though I didn't think it was even close to delving into the level of self-deceit that someone who abuses children must have. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 36014 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted August 28, 2012 03:59 PM I came to my conclusion, after a day out and a talk with God. There is a time and a place to take the head of the snake. Every person must have that tool in the arsenal. Jesus turned over the tables on the hypocrites. Jesus got angry. Jesus was not a wimp or a pushover. All tools must be in the tool box and accessible for various usage. That marks a whole person and is in total line with a godly person. Thanks for listening ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 36014 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted August 28, 2012 04:00 PM quote: Originally posted by Jovian: Ami, I respect you for your ongoing commitment to work on yourself and to try to understand others. I have read that M. Scott Peck book, "People of the Lie." ...Though I didn't think it was even close to delving into the level of self-deceit that someone who abuses children must have. Thank you Jovian I had to face evil too early. The result was I could not face it as an adult and so let it walk on me. No more ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Emeraldopal Knowflake Posts: 1796 From: U Registered: Apr 2011	posted August 28, 2012 04:02 PM Ami Anne my heart goes out to you... for all you have endured... I send a hug of LOving Healing Energy ~ ~ ~ ------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 36014 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted August 28, 2012 04:33 PM Thank you Emerald xoxox ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Emeraldopal Knowflake Posts: 1796 From: U Registered: Apr 2011	posted August 28, 2012 05:04 PM Ami Anne, LOVE is Truly the Answer... I LOve you... ------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone IP: Logged
Emeraldopal Knowflake Posts: 1796 From: U Registered: Apr 2011	posted August 28, 2012 05:06 PM ------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 36014 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted August 28, 2012 05:25 PM quote: Originally posted by Emeraldopal: Ami Anne, LOVE is Truly the Answer... I LOve you... Thank you, Emerald. You, too, but sometimes you have to love yourself enough to fight back for yourself ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Emeraldopal Knowflake Posts: 1796 From: U Registered: Apr 2011	posted August 28, 2012 06:12 PM Yes, this is true.. fight with Love for all... ..for your mission, your purpose to Master yourSelf, For the Ggod of A11. ... ------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone IP: Logged
RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 3800 From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop Registered: Sep 2011	posted August 28, 2012 07:22 PM quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: For those of you who don't know my story, my mother molested me, so I had to deal with evil, way too early. I had no means for doing so, so I froze. This brings me to the present where I must learn to confront evil and push it away from me. Also, side by side with that, I must face it, in myself. It is a daunting journey, but one I must take. Perhaps, all humans must. I will take it in the context of the Bible. That is why I am talking about it here, rather than Sweet peas. The Bible provides all answers for daily living as it is the Owners Manual for man. I will be back, later, bit hope some of you will accompany me, on this journey to the soul. The unexplored life is not worth living :sending support to you for what you went through: I can't imagine how horrible that is. I've experienced harassment and assault, but not from my family members. My heart goes out to you and any other victims out there. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 36014 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted August 28, 2012 07:41 PM Thanks RP You have been through a lot too ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged

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