posted December 17, 2012 06:13 PM            

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

posted January 24, 2013 06:07 AM            

I don't know why these people haven't gotten arrested for harassment, loitering, or gathering without a permit when they protest, and sentenced to jail time. And sometimes you see them behind a wall of cops...how does that happen?

I saw one of the Westboro members on YouTube, boasting that he didn't care if he had to die for his beliefs; in another video, I'm pretty sure it was the same guy running away from an angry mob, directing his children and sounding petrified.

posted January 24, 2013 06:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Westboro Baptist aren't real Christians, they are fakes.

I don't know why these people haven't gotten arrested for harassment, loitering, or gathering without a permit when they protest, and sentenced to jail time. And sometimes you see them behind a wall of cops...how does that happen?

I saw one of the Westboro members on YouTube, boasting that he didn't care if he had to die for his beliefs; in another video, I'm pretty sure it was the same guy running away from an angry mob, directing his children and sounding petrified.

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posted January 24, 2013 08:29 AM            

I mean, Ian (a Christian, supposedly) was just saying on another thread that he wants all American women conscripted into the military. Translated, we should be forced against our will to weild guns for the Corporations driving these wars, and subject ourselves to the risk of being killed by enemy fire. There is also a very high risk of women getting raped in the military...that is of no matter to him.

There is violence in that.

MOST of my Christian friends in real-life ardently support an aggressive foreign policy and have zero interest in analyzing the origins of that foreign policy (or, for that matter, watching actual war footage.) They will not listen when you talk about the wars being about oil, natural resources, and a global oligarchy. They are not interested in finding a way to release their anger at foreigners they don't even know.

Why is that? What is it in people that makes them seek an outlet in which they can "legitimately" express murderous intentions?

And why is this happening so consistently in professing "Christians"? In my opinion, it's the result of deliberate brainwashing. You have groups like the Council for National Policy working to keep the church-goers in a rabid state of mind, always pushing for more war. And people yield to this pressure.

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posted January 24, 2013 12:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
There's a lot of violence in contemporary Christianity, however.

I mean, Ian (a Christian, supposedly) was just saying on another thread that he wants all American women conscripted into the military. Translated, we should be forced against our will to weild guns for the Corporations driving these wars, and subject ourselves to the risk of being killed by enemy fire. There is also a very high risk of women getting raped in the military...that is of no matter to him.

There is violence in that.

MOST of my Christian friends in real-life ardently support an aggressive foreign policy and have zero interest in analyzing the origins of that foreign policy (or, for that matter, watching actual war footage.) They will not listen when you talk about the wars being about oil, natural resources, and a global oligarchy. They are not interested in finding a way to release their anger at foreigners they don't even know.

Why is that? What is it in people that makes them seek an outlet in which they can "legitimately" express murderous intentions?

And why is this happening so consistently in professing "Christians"? In my opinion, it's the result of deliberate brainwashing. You have groups like the Council for National Policy working to keep the church-goers in a rabid state of mind, always pushing for more war. And people yield to this pressure.

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posted January 24, 2013 12:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Christians are not monolithic. I am very out of the box, myself. You have to accept Jesus as your personal savior to be a Christian. Other than that, people can be quite different imho

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mon·o·lith·ic
/ˌmänəˈliTHik/
Adjective

Formed of a single large block of stone.
(of a building) Very large and characterless.

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posted January 24, 2013 04:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You might not think I am out of the box, Lexx, but other Christians do

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And again;
what did you mean by monolithic?

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Christians are not monolithic. I am very out of the box, myself. You have to accept Jesus as your personal savior to be a Christian. Other than that, people can be quite different imho

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mon·o·lith·ic
/ˌmänəˈliTHik/
Adjective

Formed of a single large block of stone.
(of a building) Very large and characterless.

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posted January 24, 2013 06:23 PM            

Thanks about the box

Monolithic means all the same.

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posted January 24, 2013 10:16 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
No True Scotsman as applied to religion.

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Excellent point! Thank you.

I'm aware of the fact that I'm using a purely subjective standard when I differentiate between true and fake Christians.

posted January 24, 2013 11:28 PM            

Holy smoke, holy smoke
There's plenty bad preachers for the Devil to stoke...

--Iron Maiden, Holy Smoke

Odd how I remembered that. I had a casual boyfriend in 9th grade (we were more like friends who pretended to be dating) who LOVED Iron Maiden, and that was one song I suddenly recalled.

I also recalled Behind the Pine Curtain where one boy (who considered himself a Christian and the majority of churches as the Pharisees condemned by Jesus in Matthew 23) kept offending people by referring to all the churches (with a sneer that could be heard as well as seen) with "Inc." (for example, he'd refer to what was probably the most popular church in town as "First Baptist Church of [town], Inc."). Being young teenagers we thought the outrage (especially if there was also surprised shock) he generated was funny, and I still get a nostalgic smile thinking on it. He was a good guy himself.