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Ami Anne
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posted January 20, 2013 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The next Pope is thought to be the False Prophet, who will be one of the Trinity with the Anti-Christ. The Anti-Christ will be the one person in history, along with Judas, whom Satan actually inhabited. His Religious arm, so to speak, will be the False Prophet. The "black pope" as he is called among scholars and prophecy experts who wait for him( including the revered author and former exorcist for the Catholic church, Malachi Martin, now deceased) will come on the scene when the current Pope dies.

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posted January 20, 2013 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is another clue of the near nature of the Tribulation, in most Prophecy scholars opinions.

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posted January 20, 2013 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The next Pope is thought to be the False Prophet, who will be one of the Trinity with the Anti-Christ. The Anti-Christ will be the one person in history, along with Judas, whom Satan actually inhabited. His Religious arm, so to speak, will be the False Prophet. The "black pope" as he is called among scholars and prophecy experts who wait for him( including the revered author and former exorcist for the Catholic church, Malachi Martin, now deceased) will come on the scene when the current Pope dies.


The Books of Kings records a story where, under duress from Ahab, the prophet Micaiah depicts God as requesting information from his heavenly counsel as to what he should do with a court of false prophets. This depiction is recorded in 1 Kings 22:19–23:

"Micaiah continued, 'Therefore hear the word of the Lord: I saw the Lord sitting on his throne with all the host of heaven standing around him on his right and on his left. And the Lord said, "Who will entice Ahab into attacking Ramoth Gilead and going to his death there?" "'One suggested this, and another that. Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the Lord and said, "I will entice him." "'"By what means?" the Lord asked. "'"I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets," he said. "'"You will succeed in enticing him," said the Lord. "Go and do it." "'So now the Lord has put a lying spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours. The Lord has decreed disaster for you'" (1 Kings 22:19–23 NIV).

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posted January 20, 2013 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does that have to do with anything, Juni

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posted January 24, 2013 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
The Books of Kings records a story where, under duress from Ahab, the prophet Micaiah depicts God as requesting information from his heavenly counsel as to what he should do with a court of false prophets. This depiction is recorded in 1 Kings 22:19–23:

"Micaiah continued, 'Therefore hear the word of the Lord: I saw the Lord sitting on his throne with all the host of heaven standing around him on his right and on his left. And the Lord said, "Who will entice Ahab into attacking Ramoth Gilead and going to his death there?" "'One suggested this, and another that. Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the Lord and said, "I will entice him." "'"By what means?" the Lord asked. "'"I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets," he said. "'"You will succeed in enticing him," said the Lord. "Go and do it." "'So now the Lord has put a lying spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours. The Lord has decreed disaster for you'" (1 Kings 22:19–23 NIV).

Nice, along with no one knowing the day or the hour..

Daniel as well, has led many many sincere believers to think something will happen on such and such a date..this is where the saying "The prophet who led the flock to mtn top at night walked back down with them the next morning" comes from.

Love one another, teach the Word, what will happen, happens.

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posted January 25, 2013 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bible Prophecy does show seasons. We are told to watch for the seasons and to discern them. We are very close to the Tribulation for a number of reasons. The chip is one, but there are many more such as Obama's disdain for Israel.

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posted January 25, 2013 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Bible Prophecy does show seasons. We are told to watch for the seasons and to discern them. We are very close to the Tribulation for a number of reasons. The chip is one, but there are many more such as Obama's disdain for Israel.


Has the temple been rebuilt?

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posted January 25, 2013 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Has the temple been rebuilt?

No, but plans for it are in the works. It does not have to be rebuilt before the Tribulation. ONE event signals the Tribulation. That event is the Anti Christ signing the peace treaty with Israel.

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posted January 25, 2013 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How is Obama disdainful of Israel?

That's not what I recall. So, source? Something like this, but opposite:
http://obamaonisrael.org/

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posted January 25, 2013 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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How is Obama disdainful of Israel?

That's not what I recall. So, source? Something like this, but opposite:
http://obamaonisrael.org/


If you can't see it, it is not worth even trying to show you because you will not have the discernment to see.


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posted January 25, 2013 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, faith over fact.

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posted January 25, 2013 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ah, faith over fact.

If you have a spiritual blindness, all the facts can be set in front of you and you won't see it.

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posted January 25, 2013 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
No, but plans for it are in the works. It does not have to be rebuilt before the Tribulation. ONE event signals the Tribulation. That event is the Anti Christ signing the peace treaty with Israel.


There are various others as well, earthquakes in diverse places, signs in the heavans, one world governance etc.

Do agree President Obama is not a fan of Israel, for example why the token sale of 4 f-16's to Egypt?

At some point, I hope, he realizes all he is accomplishing is destabilizing the region.

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posted January 25, 2013 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If you have a spiritual blindness, all the facts can be set in front of you and you won't see it.

Followers of the false god are spiritually blind of course.

Isaiah 42:19

19 Who is blind, but my servant? or deaf, as my messenger that I sent? who is blind as he that is perfect, and blind as the Lord's servant?

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posted January 25, 2013 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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There are various others as well, earthquakes in diverse places, signs in the heavans, one world governance etc.

Do agree President Obama is not a fan of Israel, for example why the token sale of 4 f-16's to Egypt?

At some point, I hope, he realizes all he is accomplishing is destabilizing the region.


No, he will take us down and down.

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posted January 25, 2013 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will make a perfect, logical case as to why Israel is the rightful owner of her land. The person will concede every point and then go out and want Israel to give up her land. It is a spiritual blindness, of which only God can remove.

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posted January 25, 2013 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b] If you have a spiritual blindness, all the facts can be set in front of you and you won't see it.

Followers of the false god are spiritually blind of course.

Isaiah 42:19

19 Who is blind, but my servant? or deaf, as my messenger that I sent? who is blind as he that is perfect, and blind as the Lord's servant?

[/B][/QUOTE]

"Make the heart of this people calloused; make their ears dull and close their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed."

Is 6:10
Now granted, that could easily be meant for the Hebaru populace of Jerusalem of Isaiah's day, however, it does ring true even today.

The Most High lives in hearts, when that heart turns to stone, then all of the quotations in existence will never penetrated such a hard place.


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posted January 25, 2013 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People can only see that Jesus is the one true God and one way to God, when their spiritual blindness comes off( IF it comes off) Hence, it is silly to argue with people who have spiritual blindness. The road is narrow, too. People don't like to hear that, but it is true. Few will find it.

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posted January 25, 2013 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
People can only see that Jesus is the one true God and one way to God, when their spiritual blindness comes off( IF it comes off) Hence, it is silly to argue with people who have spiritual blindness. The road is narrow, too. People don't like to hear that, but it is true. Few will find it.


Not necessarily, what I mean by that is a sort of spirit of the great Rush line:

"Show, don't tell"

The world is awash with media, there is a constant chatter in the background concerning everything from McDonald's cheese burgers to buy a new car.

Lots of words, action however, speaks for itself.

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posted January 25, 2013 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
People can only see that Jesus is the one true God and one way to God, when their spiritual blindness comes off( IF it comes off) Hence, it is silly to argue with people who have spiritual blindness. The road is narrow, too. People don't like to hear that, but it is true. Few will find it.


Jesus is not god.
He was however a wise and good teacher.

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posted January 25, 2013 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]People can only see that Jesus is the one true God and one way to God, when their spiritual blindness comes off( IF it comes off) Hence, it is silly to argue with people who have spiritual blindness. The road is narrow, too. People don't like to hear that, but it is true. Few will find it.


Jesus is not god.
He was however a wise and good teacher.

[/B][/QUOTE]

Ah, rarely do I enjoin is such things however Jesus was indeed the God (or the Lord) in the flesh.

I do not say that out of a by wrote, drilled into my head teaching/creed sort of thing.

A million trillion things may be said about Yushauh Hamasheah, he was indeed, what he claimed to be.

The Word in the flesh so to speak

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Ah, rarely do I enjoin is such things however Jesus was indeed the God (or the Lord) in the flesh.

I do not say that out of a by wrote, drilled into my head teaching/creed sort of thing.

A million trillion things may be said about Yushauh Hamasheah, he was indeed, what he claimed to be.

The Word in the flesh so to speak

sermon/over


Not everyone on this planet believes that mythos.
We are entitled to our pov also.
I believe in Yeshua but not the lies and mythos about the great teacher.
Yet every day for centuries those who claim to love him;
crucify him in effigy over and over in their voo doo like superstitions.
There are countless billions/trillions of galaxies out there, and no way did a local jealous god wanna be, nor did a good human teacher, create the universe.


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posted January 25, 2013 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Goodness, have to speak on that as well.

If Christ was lying, then all he had to do was deny the allegations the Sanhedrin had raised, and there would have been no Crucifixion.

Instead, Christ stayed true to whom he is, and did not deny it, not at all, Christ doubled down even with the knowledge of the cost.

I've apologized for many many things in this life Lexxigrammar, the one thing that I do know is Christ was God in the flesh.

This after 3-4 yrs of such intense Biblical studies that a rational person would think me obsessed, there is no other conclusion to be drawn.

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posted January 26, 2013 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Goodness, have to speak on that as well.

If Christ was lying, then all he had to do was deny the allegations the Sanhedrin had raised, and there would have been no Crucifixion.

Instead, Christ stayed true to whom he is, and did not deny it, not at all, Christ doubled down even with the knowledge of the cost.

I've apologized for many many things in this life Lexxigrammar, the one thing that I do know is Christ was God in the flesh.

This after 3-4 yrs of such intense Biblical studies that a rational person would think me obsessed, there is no other conclusion to be drawn.


I never said Yeshua was lying.
I said men were lying about him.
History has warped the truth about him.
Yeshua did not lie.
The idiots who wrote the bibles were the liars out to make a name for themselves.
You can believe what you want but I will not blaspheme the good teacher with man made mythos and lies about him.
He did not die in a crucifixion, but lived to a ripe old age.
Christ was not his name nor a name.
It means anointed as were at least 16 other "christed" ones.
Yeshua was a good man but not god.
My deepest respect and love to him.

As to your biblical studies of 3 to 4 years;
well my studies in depth span well over a few decades to date; of many different versions of the bible and other so called holy books/writings.

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posted January 26, 2013 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Yeshua did not lie.
The idiots who wrote the bibles were the liars out to make a name for themselves.
You can believe what you want but I will not blaspheme the good teacher with man made mythos and lies about him.
Christ was not his name nor a name.
It means anointed as were at least 16 other "christed" ones.
Yeshua was a good man but not god.
My deepest respect and love to him.

As to your biblical studies of 3 to 4 years;
well my studies in depth span well over a few decades to date; of many different versions of the bible and other so called holy books/writings"

No Yeshau did not lie, yet the very account of his life on earth one claims has been twisted?

If twisted, how was it not made out to make him a liar?

Was he both patient with slander as well as praise about his very nature?

As for studies, think entire bible in Koine'Greek as well as the more difficult portions in Hebrew.

Each night, every night, for years.

Searched the other texts for correlations, as there is grain of truth in all faiths, from the DhammaPada to the Koran to Edgar Cayce

And what is more, as mentioned, unless there are actions tied to it, what difference?

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