posted March 26, 2013 01:09 AM            

Arguments for God...?

Its more relevant their.

posted March 26, 2013 03:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
God doesn't hate gays. That is stoopid

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posted March 26, 2013 04:20 PM              

Of course there are still plenty of straights who seem worried that they might be corrupted in a society where gays are openly accepted, and the conservatives like to pretend that marriage is only for making children,

posted March 26, 2013 04:39 PM            

I know a girl who equates the "God hates fags" crowd with Death Eaters on Harry Potter. This was after an unjust assault on her family and an attempt to get her mom fired & evicted (which took a lawyer to stop it), while giving her pamphlets on even why Christians had a duty to combat gays and the gay lifestyle, and trying to get as many kids at the apartment they lived at then to not associate with her or her brother (though both kids still had plenty of friends and she finally decided it was for the best that some kids were kept from her anyway).

She's a Cancer and they lied to her, harassed her, cost her friends, and tried to get her and her family thrown on the streets without a job while saying they did it because they loved her and were concerned by her being raised by 2 women and saying how evil gays were (it was funny, they quoted Romans 1 on why gays were evil and she shouted at them, "Then you're gay! You're the liars, slanderers, and telling me to disrespect my mother!") When she came out of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 she referenced the scene of Death Eaters (evil wizards, think Nazis) who wanted to oppress muggles (those without magic) while creating pamphlets of the "muggle menace" and "when muggles attack" (that is, they were trying to turn it around and say the Death Eaters were merely defending themselves and a "pure blood society" rather than being evil) it reminded her of those fundies seeking to inflict oppression while claiming it was the victims of their hate who were the evil ones. And I don't think you can get more repugnant to a little girl than to have Death Eaters remind her of you.

posted March 28, 2013 11:43 AM            

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posted March 28, 2013 05:28 PM            

But i do think the religious institutions hate them, mostly becuse they try to build a certain "norm" through which they operate that moves from education to ones personal life...and when ones life seem to be unfitting to the religious "norm" they are put to the torch for being evil.

posted March 28, 2013 06:57 PM            

I think that the most vocal and/or violent haters against gays (and those who preach against it) are using them as scapegoats for all their own immoral deeds, thoughts, and practices. IOW, it makes them feel better about their own sins as well as more righteous. So many of them prove to be perverts or at least adulterous, obsessed with sex (even if it's heterosexual...though not always...), etc, that I feel confident in believing that.

posted March 29, 2013 01:43 AM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
I tend to think that, as all religions aim to expand their numbers - thereby expanding their funding and power bases - homosexuals are seen as unproductive members of the club, indeed unwanted.

But the classic homophobic person is someone who is afraid he/she might BE one...many of whom seem to need the anger of a paternalistic god to deter them from "antisocial" behaviour...

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Not at all, in fact, and granted I last bothered with this in the later 00's, homosexuals made higher then medium incomes then the avg in the US at least.

This is why, imo, you see several denominations ordain homosexual bishops and what have you.

posted March 29, 2013 02:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Not at all, in fact, and granted I last bothered with this in the later 00's, homosexuals made higher then medium incomes then the avg in the US at least.

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Additionally because homosexuals do not naturally procreate with each other, the demographic is likely to have more expendable income. The church is going about this all wrong lol.

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posted June 03, 2013 07:03 PM            

Senior Salvation Army officials go on record that LGBT parents should be put to death, as the Bible instructs. Major Andrew Craibe, a Salvation Army Media Relations Director, went on public radio hosted by queer journalist Serena Ryan to discuss a recent call by LGBT parents for a boycott of the nonprofit for its anti-gay policies and beliefs.

Ryan questioned Craibe about Salvation Story: Salvationist Handbook of Doctrine , the manual used to train Salvation Army “soldiers” and members. Several chapters refer to the sin of homosexuality, including a section that cites Romans 1:18-32, which includes a admonition that homosexuals “deserved to die”:

LGBT Parenting a death sentence with Salvation Army

Ryan: According to the Salvation Army, [gay parents] deserve death. How do you respond to that, as part of your doctrine?

Craibe: Well, that’s a part of our belief system.

Ryan: So they should die.

Craibe: You know, we have an alignment to the Scriptures, but that’s our belief.

Ryan: You’re proposing in your doctrine that because these parents are gay, that they must die.

Craibe: Well, well, because that is part of our Christian doctrine –

Ryan: But how is that Christian? Shouldn’t it be about love?

Craibe: Well, the love that we would show is about that: consideration for all human beings to come to know salvation…

Ryan Or die…

posted June 04, 2013 01:02 PM            

Im sorry but its too funny to read XD (good one )

One big problem for gays is the ignorance that is widespread across society these days (not completly the fault of religion)

People think gays are *stereotype* and *stereotype* and if they will marry so *religious or stereotypical disaster* will happen.

posted July 15, 2013 06:23 PM            

Well, then I guess she would have felt the same way had he become a 'priest'... right?

nah.... You know what I think? I think all this "judgment" that is coming upon the earth is because of the ATTITUDE of the Church, their lack of love, their lack of committing to the work of God. They have all gone astray.... and the Big Bad Wolves snuck into the Pulpits!! Infested by the spirit of antichrist! The antichrist is the hateful spirit and divisive selfishness in the Church!

.... God is not mad at homosexuals! He's ripe mad at the CHURCHES!! imo

posted July 16, 2013 11:37 AM            

God cares about people's well being and happiness, so he wouldnt want you to be gay bc it would hurt you. There are many people i know who once they became christian realized their homosexuality was a confusion that they experienced through lust. It's hard to explain and sounds so so messed up i'm sure. But this has been my experience. One of my close friends also thought he was gay, but he explained to me how it all happened and how religion helped him get out of it abd see the truth of what had really happened to him that he had all these thoughts. It is no coincidence that there is so much promiscuity in the gay community...tattoos, fetishes, sex toys as well. It's bc these people are confused. All this behavior hurts them and makes them more lost until it just becomes a spiral. I know many people who are homosexual who are depressed, as well as promiscuous and confused.

God is forgiving. Many people in religion are not, and use the bible to condone their own selfish judgements and condemnation. God always says in the bible to forgive others like I forgive you.

It is not right to CONDEMN or see someone as evil. People do this, but the bible warns us against seeing people that way. It demands that we always be forgiving. Of course, a lot of christians are hypocrits and not real christians!!! Christianity is based on forgiveness and love. God is love ----> these three words are written all over the bible.

posted July 16, 2013 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
God doesn't hate gays, he just says that they are confused and that being gay hurts them

God cares about people's well being and happiness, so he wouldnt want you to be gay bc it would hurt you. There are many people i know who once they became christian realized their homosexuality was a confusion that they experienced through lust. It's hard to explain and sounds so so messed up i'm sure. But this has been my experience. One of my close friends also thought he was gay, but he explained to me how it all happened and how religion helped him get out of it abd see the truth of what had really happened to him that he had all these thoughts. It is no coincidence that there is so much promiscuity in the gay community...tattoos, fetishes, sex toys as well. It's bc these people are confused. All this behavior hurts them and makes them more lost until it just becomes a spiral. I know many people who are homosexual who are depressed, as well as promiscuous and confused.

God is forgiving. Many people in religion are not, and use the bible to condone their own selfish judgements and condemnation. God always says in the bible to forgive others like I forgive you.

It is not right to CONDEMN or see someone as evil. People do this, but the bible warns us against seeing people that way. It demands that we always be forgiving. Of course, a lot of christians are hypocrits and not real christians!!! Christianity is based on forgiveness and love. God is love ----> these three words are written all over the bible.

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And your comments about gays is just too nasty vile close minded and bigoted. Take your judging gays someplace else. You are pretty much calling them perverts and sick in the head and disgusting. Geeezzz.

And your god clearly calls it an abomination and damns gay folks.
Are you that blindsided that you missed that bit?
It is in your bible.
Or are you trying to stir up trouble?
Geez.....heterosexual folks have .tattoos, fetishes, and use sex toys.
You see them as sick and depraved too?
What century is this????????????

posted July 16, 2013 06:52 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
God doesn't hate gays, he just says that they are confused and that being gay hurts them

God cares about people's well being and happiness, so he wouldnt want you to be gay bc it would hurt you. There are many people i know who once they became christian realized their homosexuality was a confusion that they experienced through lust. It's hard to explain and sounds so so messed up i'm sure. But this has been my experience. One of my close friends also thought he was gay, but he explained to me how it all happened and how religion helped him get out of it abd see the truth of what had really happened to him that he had all these thoughts. It is no coincidence that there is so much promiscuity in the gay community...tattoos, fetishes, sex toys as well. It's bc these people are confused. All this behavior hurts them and makes them more lost until it just becomes a spiral. I know many people who are homosexual who are depressed, as well as promiscuous and confused

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While everything you said in your post is easily debatable I'm just quoting this one part as they paint you in a very poor light, and will now offer another Bible verse to inspire you with, Proverbs 17:28 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

posted July 16, 2013 09:29 PM            

Wow.

posted July 17, 2013 12:09 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
God doesn't hate gays, he just says that they are confused and that being gay hurts them

God cares about people's well being and happiness, so he wouldnt want you to be gay bc it would hurt you. There are many people i know who once they became christian realized their homosexuality was a confusion that they experienced through lust. It's hard to explain and sounds so so messed up i'm sure. But this has been my experience. One of my close friends also thought he was gay, but he explained to me how it all happened and how religion helped him get out of it abd see the truth of what had really happened to him that he had all these thoughts. It is no coincidence that there is so much promiscuity in the gay community...tattoos, fetishes, sex toys as well. It's bc these people are confused. All this behavior hurts them and makes them more lost until it just becomes a spiral. I know many people who are homosexual who are depressed, as well as promiscuous and confused.

God is forgiving. Many people in religion are not, and use the bible to condone their own selfish judgements and condemnation. God always says in the bible to forgive others like I forgive you.

It is not right to CONDEMN or see someone as evil. People do this, but the bible warns us against seeing people that way. It demands that we always be forgiving. Of course, a lot of christians are hypocrits and not real christians!!! Christianity is based on forgiveness and love. God is love ----> these three words are written all over the bible.

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Confused? First of all straight people often have the same fetishes and interest in sex but often hide it behind closed doors out of fear of being judged.

Secondly, gays feel need to be open and free becuse people like you often meddle into their business and even have enough ego to think you understand them and have the ability to offer solutions.

Also, instead of living in a stereotype try to actually see gays...i have many gay friend (and gay myself) and very few of us are actually promiscious (like in regular society)

Since when tattos is sex-related?

The feeling of depression comes from people like you why try to hide them and prevent them right for being who they are or fix them...and for throwing so many empty stereotypes at a community causing a lot of confusion when they see its not alwas true to the bullsh*t people tell.

Arent you a hypocrite for saying you forgive us for being confused and ignoring what we really feal?

posted July 17, 2013 02:12 AM            

Homosexuals are depressed not because people stereotype them but because they will never be accepted. First of all the way they look doesnt correspond with the way they want to dress and look, their personality (at least gay men) doesnt usually match them either it seems fake, also they cannot reproduce so if they are the way they are from birth then it must be a biological error, because what would be the purpose of making organisms who cannot reproduce and might cause the race to become extinct. What is the logic in wanting to be a man if you are a woman and liking another woman who also wants to be a man. What is the logic in wanting to be a woman if u are man but liking another man who wants to be a woman! It makes no sense! The point is society will never accept homosexuality fully because it is not logical, does not look right (women dressing like men, men dressing like women), and also because we are wired to think that male and female naturally attract. If you think about it, in gay couples there is a more masculine acting partner and a more feminine acting partner. That means they are looking for the male/female polarity even amongst themselves, yet they still both want to be male or female!

And to think that someone will be depressed and feel left out because society will never accept them is really sepressing to me and hurts me because i dont like seeing people in pain. It is not that i dont want to accept homosexuals, i do accept them, but i recognize nobody can ever accept them fully. My best friend in high school had a gay best friend and she loved him a lot and told herself she accepted him, but at the end of the day she confessed to me that she found his behavior strange. I have spoken with many people and had honat conversations with them about it until they finally confessed that they also secretly judged their gay friends.

Because it does not make SENSE is why people judge. Because you cannot reproduce and do not make sense in the way your attraction works, so you make sense neither biologically nor rationally. Because people recognize that people arent overly masculine or feminine, they just have personalities, and gays seem to be adopting a fake persona and that feeling is unsettling, is why people judge you. And why is it also that you never see feminine girly lesbians. Why do lesbians look butch. Could it be that first you were a regular girl who acted kind of butch and then you started thinking you might be more like a male because of your butch tendencies? Also why is it usually only bisexuals act/look like their gender/have feminine bodies/dainty features. Only bisexual women are girly and usually only bisexual men act like their regular personality (not puttin on this fake persona). In my opinion it is because tomboyish girls think that they are different from when they are young and they later think they might be lesbian. Same for gay guys, you can have a guy who likes girly things, but since society doesnt accept that, but we are all human and guys are perfectly capable of liking girly things as much as women, and in fact can also have feminine mannerisms and still be perfectly straight, i think this makes these men think they're gay, and when they have a sexual relation with a member of the same gender they become attracted to them.