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posted May 08, 2013 10:54 AM            

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posted May 08, 2013 11:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Upon further thought, there was Mitt Romney and Orin Hatch but you don't see too many political activists from LDS.

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So is Harry Reid.

Beck was RCC and one time, the wheels fell off his life and eventually converted to LDS.

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posted May 08, 2013 11:35 AM            

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posted May 08, 2013 11:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thanks Padre
Anyone else LDS?

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Honestly do not really know AA, it's something I don't pay a lot of attention to tbh.

Bay Buchanon for example

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posted May 08, 2013 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Aww Bay. I did not know that. Glen Beck really surprised me though. He really knows the Bible as well as I do

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Has to expand his market..wait what?

posted May 08, 2013 12:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Has to expand his market..wait what?

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Nah, he is one of the bravest people who ever lived. His call is beyond his personal aspirations. He is a true patriot. I am in awe of him.

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posted May 08, 2013 12:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Nah, he is one of the bravest people who ever lived. His call is beyond his personal aspirations. He is a true patriot. I am in awe of him.

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That is "charisma" AA, wouldn't mind it if wasn't also a book salesman and trying to be a media mogul.

Charismatic leadership is a fascinating phenom that I'd suggest you look into.

In fact, I can recall in the early 00's, when Beck was based in Philly, he said point blank:

"..I'm not a political guy, if you want that, you listen to Rush and Hannity, my show is not for guys with shotguns in their pickup truck back windows.."

Lo and behold, an epiphany!

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posted May 08, 2013 01:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am not that kind of person at all and I admire him a great deal, Padre.

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Have you ever met him in person?

Here is why I ask, if it is difficult to tell the bad apples amongst us even when you meet them in person, how can you tell them just from what they display via media?

This is why I have a grain of salt, no matter how much I may agree with them, when it comes to media types.

posted May 08, 2013 02:10 PM            

Personally, I feel a bit 'creeped out' by him ~ his mind-boundaries waft and are not clear to me. Seems so chaotic that the words can create 'trance' --- Like the StarTrek episode where Kirk exorcises a demon out of their computer banks by this technique.

Computer! Everything I'm about to tell you 'is a lie'...

Computer! Everything I just told you is 'the truth'...

Computer! That's a lie!

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The computer flipped-out on 'computing' what that 'meant'..... in the mean time, the crew regained control and the virus/entity was ousted.

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http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Beck%2C_Glenn

I have a tendency to see the angel (best) of people... therefore I have to put extra effort into sorting out what I feel and see and think...

In one "Christian" church I belonged to long ago, I was enamored of this growing "small" group. I would discuss things with this pastor. He would preach and give imagery to describe what he meant....

Soon afterwards, I moved 2,000 miles away. I was housesitting and pouring over the family's great reference home library. I saw the satanic bible (just a reference book included in sets he collected). WHEN I OPENED UP THIS BOOK.... On the PAGES IN FRONT OF ME, were MANY of the "examples"... "images" that this "Christian" pastor used to teach Bible principles... *jawdrop!!!!!!* That was flippin SCARY to me.....

We ALL must guard each other's backs. Some people have agendas that are DEEPLY hid. I'm not just talking devilishness, or 'normal' inner controversy.... We ALL must struggle with personal inner light and inner darkness..... It's part of being Human!!

I am talking about the DEEP DARKEST DARKEST evil that the norm of society never gets a real look at. I mean, there is Evil.... then there is the most vile Evil that makes regular Evil pale......

The most-vile of darkest evil HAS no church-- it is a force that underlies some foundational core institutions including innocent-'church'.

Be CAREFUL what you find. Even be careful of ME? As XFILES say, trust no one.... That's what it means to have 'safety in a multitude of counselors'? And that's what TRUSTING GOD means... Psalm 91

Added NOTE... Psalm 91 is not a 'literal' IF and THEN "legal" prescription that you "must" do to have all the 'benefits' listed.

posted May 08, 2013 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Have you ever met him in person?

Here is why I ask, if it is difficult to tell the bad apples amongst us even when you meet them in person, how can you tell them just from what they display via media?

This is why I have a grain of salt, no matter how much I may agree with them, when it comes to media types.

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I will give you the simple answer. He does not need the money. He is set. He puts himself at HUGE PERSONAL RISK for standing up the way he does. He puts his loved ones, like his children and wife, at huge personal risk. That is not done for ulterior motives. That is done for pure altruism and answering to a Higher Call. All you praying people, pray for him, please

I mean, WHO can't be politically correct. That takes nothing, no risk, no anything. To go against the grain is the true hero( and to do it for what is right and good, of course, not human death,maiming and destruction, obviously)
It is a darn shame you have to qualify that in this day and age, but you do
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posted May 08, 2013 03:38 PM            

Beck says his life is in danger, however that is also true of people just going about their lives in Chicago on a daily basis.

And do keep in mind, was listening to Beck in 2000-01, long before most of America had really heard of him.

posted May 08, 2013 03:43 PM            

My heart goes out to the poor people who are the victims of political correctness, in a very large measure, and have a terrible life in Chicago and other such cites

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posted May 08, 2013 03:55 PM            

As for Chicago, there I can agree, it is a situation where only law breakers can own arms, and the lawabiding become mere targets in their shooting range.

posted May 08, 2013 03:56 PM            

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And I don't necessarily disagree AA, but keep in mind Beck has a microphone and an audience it is in his interests to expand his audience.

As for Chicago, there I can agree, it is a situation where only law breakers can own arms, and the lawabiding become mere targets in their shooting range.

But I'll buy into what Beck is selling when he moves to Chicago, drops the body guards and takes his chances like everyone else.

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With all due respect, that is ridiculous Padre. His service is his voice and he gives people like me and hundreds of thousands of others, strength.
I could never be as brave and strong as he is

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posted May 08, 2013 04:06 PM            

AA, we have differing views on what bravery is, mine goes out to the martyrs in places where Christians are banned.

Not to a cat who is pulling in millions a year, with a mansion, with bodyguards and security teams and 2 books a year.

posted May 08, 2013 04:24 PM            

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AA, we have differing views on what bravery is, mine goes out to the martyrs in places where Christians are banned.

Not to a cat who is pulling in millions a year, with a mansion, with bodyguards and security teams and 2 books a year.

You may really agree with what he has to say, and that's fine, but do keep in mind he is not sitting in sack cloth and ashes being lectured to by his friends.

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YEP, he is very, very brave imo. There are many forms of bravery, dear friend

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posted May 09, 2013 07:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:

Bravery involves speaking ones mind and making tens of millions of dollars for so doing?

What biazzaro world is that?

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Not bizarro at all. That is his purpose. That is what he contributes to the world. Just being poor and living in terrible conditions is not laudable in itself.

God raises people up to be used and God blesses them with material things. Mosr OT characters such as Abraham were rich.

People equating being poor with being godly is 10000% wrong. Being rich allows you to bless others. God wants people to be rich, happy, healthy and have all material blessings but to be humble and put Him, first.

There is a poverty mentality in some Christians that equate poverty with godliness. This is not the case!

Glen is in a very, very, very dangerous position. Breitbart was murdered. People can laugh at that all they want. IMO, he was. Money won't save you from bad people who don't want truth to come out.

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posted May 09, 2013 10:34 AM            

And alternatively, does that mean the poor are unGodly? Furthermore, it is not as if Beck is plowing fields and reaping a harvest, quite the contrary, he is marketing a product by convincing some who buy it that he is doing so at great personal risk.

Yeah, in fact the Church in Boston had to lower him outside the city walls in a basket b/c the local authorities wanted to arrest him for preaching the gospel.

When Paul was stoned unto death and left, the next day he got up and went back into town to preach even more, when Beck faces a unfavorable opinion he cashes a multi million dollar check.