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Ami Anne
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posted May 26, 2013 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone want to help me research it? I would appreciate it and then I will write an article on it. Thanks for any help.

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posted May 26, 2013 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Always find the root word (Shaar) then work from there AA.
http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/7604.htm
http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/7611.htm

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posted May 26, 2013 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is the root word for remnant, Padre? Do you know Hebrew and Greek. I went to Hebrew School when I was a child. I HATED it. I begged my mother to let me out of it and she did. Now, I wish I had stayed as you always do with these things.

As an adult, I was being tutored in Hebrew by an Israeli and I loved it! She said I was her best student

She went back to Israel and I never pursued it. You know that Hebrew is the only language in which you cannot swear.

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posted May 26, 2013 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I don't know Hebrew per se, when I studied the Scripture intensely I the sort of teacher had a Strong's w/Hebrew and Greek root words.

When something came up, one would then refer to the Strong's to see what was actually being said.

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Ami Anne
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posted May 26, 2013 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, that is important. Arnold Fructenbaum has a Masters in Hebrew and Greek. He was an Orthodox Jew and when he accepted Jesus at 18, his family had a funeral for him and considered him dead.

Someone paid for all his schooling--undergrad to Phd, I think and he never knew who the person was but all his tuition was paid.

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posted May 26, 2013 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Well, I've read a wide variety of sources covering the Bible AA, from Anglicans (The Four Witnesses) to ultra Elect (Sinai Covenant, 75 Bible Questions your instructors pray you won't ask)

And daily 5:30 am Bible class so to speak via the internet lectures, 10 yrs of it and I reached the point of fullness.

Anywho, as for the Remnant, usually they are listed as those who would survive whatever cataclysm that was going to hit the region.

There were also times when there were very few left

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posted May 26, 2013 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am gonna do a study on it and also on the divorce thing. My teachers are all Pro-Israel as you can imagine but everyone who loves Jesus is usually Pro-Israel or becomes so from God's healing his heart.

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posted May 26, 2013 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ever hear of Walid Shoebat? He is totally amazing. He used to be a Muslim terrorist and then he found Jesus. He came to my town and he calls up the Messianic rabbis and goes to speak to the congregations. He loves the Jews and Israel.

I should do an article on him. I will. Now, I have 3 to do

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posted May 26, 2013 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ever hear of Walid Shoebat? He is totally amazing. He used to be a Muslim terrorist and then he found Jesus. He came to my town and he calls up the Messianic rabbis and goes to speak to the congregations. He loves the Jews and Israel.

I should do an article on him. I will. Now, I have 3 to do


If he was a terrorist why he is not in jail?

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posted May 26, 2013 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I have heard of Shabat and the Caners etc.

TBH, I enjoyed and try to apply some of Dr Gary North's views, not all of them as he is far far to into OT law.

For me, his sort of slow approach with generating value and avoiding debt is very much needed in the Christian Community.

One of the problems is statistically speaking, there is virtually no difference b/t Christian and non Christian when it comes to things like bankruptcy, debt, divorce, even criminal involvement.

How does that fit into the Remnant? It really doesn't, not directly, they are more akin to a very small slice of people whom God just wants saved as he foreknew them.

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posted May 26, 2013 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Walid Shoebat was a Muslim terrorist who was going out to blow up a bus with school children. Either the bomb didn't go off or he could not do it. God touched him and he totally changed as Randall was saying in a whole new person. he is one of the most inspiring people alive today, imo

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posted May 26, 2013 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Walid Shoebat was a Muslim terrorist who was going out to blow up a bus with school children. Either the bomb didn't go off or he could not do it. God touched him and he totally changed as Randall was saying in a whole new person. he is one of the most inspiring people alive today, imo


Yes but isnt the attempt a criminal offence?

And i believe i have heard of him....but have no knowledge of any tim served in prison...

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posted May 26, 2013 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Walid was going to bomb a school bus with Jewish children. He saw the children come off the bus and he could not bomb them.That is what I remember. I will do an article on him cuz he is super, super amazing!


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posted May 27, 2013 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For Padre:
I had some dieas as I was trying to sleep last night. This is just me and the years I have studied the Bible, not new research.

Israel is called God's wife. He "married" her and she has the position of God's wife, which is an exalted position.

She disobeyed( which God foreknew and was part of God's plan to include the Gentiles as if she had not, in theory, the Gentiles could not be saved)

At any rate, when she disobeyed time and time again, God divorced her. That allowed God to get a new wife--the Bride i.e the Church made up of Gentiles and the remnant( saved Jews in the Age of Grace, the Age of the Gentiles.

So, Israel was divorced but that is where the Jew haters like to leave it and it can't be left there as the Tribulation is an outreach to Israel and the Jews, once more.

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posted May 27, 2013 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To continue:

Israel was divorced and God took a new bride. You can check out the Jewish wedding ceremony as it mirrors all this perfectly. I don't know if you studied it, Padre.

At any rate, Israel was divorced and as such, the Jews as a BODY were blinded. That is very true and that seems to be the result of the divorce as it was a punishment. However, God left the way for the remnant to be saved. That is Jews during the Age of Grace, I think.

So, after the Rapture, if you believe in that, is the Tribulation. I am sure you believe in that. God turns back to Israel and the whole rest of time i God's love for her. Jesus, himself, comes down to earth and fights against her enemies Beware people who hate Israel. That is how much God loves her

At any rate, she did lose the position of wife and that is how I see the whole thing. What do you think, Padre?

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To continue:

Israel was divorced and God took a new bride. You can check out the Jewish wedding ceremony as it mirrors all this perfectly. I don't know if you studied it, Padre.

At any rate, Israel was divorced and as such, the Jews as a BODY were blinded. That is very true and that seems to be the result of the divorce as it was a punishment. However, God left the way for the remnant to be saved. That is Jews during the Age of Grace, I think.

So, after the Rapture, if you believe in that, is the Tribulation. I am sure you believe in that. God turns back to Israel and the whole rest of time i God's love for her. Jesus, himself, comes down to earth and fights against her enemies Beware people who hate Israel. That is how much God loves her

At any rate, she did lose the position of wife and that is how I see the whole thing. What do you think, Padre?

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posted May 27, 2013 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
For Padre:
I had some dieas as I was trying to sleep last night. This is just me and the years I have studied the Bible, not new research.

Israel is called God's wife. He "married" her and she has the position of God's wife, which is an exalted position.

She disobeyed( which God foreknew and was part of God's plan to include the Gentiles as if she had not, in theory, the Gentiles could not be saved)

At any rate, when she disobeyed time and time again, God divorced her. That allowed God to get a new wife--the Bride i.e the Church made up of Gentiles and the remnant( saved Jews in the Age of Grace, the [b]Age of the Gentiles.

So, Israel was divorced but that is where the Jew haters like to leave it and it can't be left there as the Tribulation is an outreach to Israel and the Jews, once more.

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Ah, but consider David's relationship with Johnathon, Saul was the disobedient one, Johnathon was not.

He was a good friend, almost a brother to David, and once he ascended to the throne he kept his promises to Johnathon but there were few left from Saul's house at that point.

Only Misbibosheth (sp) was brought into David's house.

This is my suspicion for what the Most High has in mind for the Remnant.

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Please, explain Padre. The remnant are saved and so are in the church
They are not really special, per se. In the Trib and the Millenium, the remnant may have certain, special duties. I am not an expert on the Millenium as it is super complicated with the various groups and I figure I am saved and in Heaven, so why bother
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Please, explain Padre. The remnant are saved and so are [b] in the church
They are not really special, per se. In the Trib and the Millenium, the remnant may have certain, special duties. I am not an expert on the Millenium as it is super complicated with the various groups and I figure I am saved and in Heaven, so why bother [/B]

Ah, AA, who ultimately decides who is in the Church, and who is not?

Thus the reason for Christ's parable of Wheat and Tares.

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EACH person decides if he/she will be in the Church by personal acceptance of Jesus as his savior. That is the whole point of the NT, Padre dear.

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posted May 27, 2013 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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EACH person decides if he/she will be in the Church by personal acceptance of Jesus as his savior. That is the whole point of the NT, Padre dear.


God does the choosing AA, it's a gift.

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posted May 27, 2013 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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God does the choosing AA, it's a gift.

YES and NO Padre.

God chooses but WE must accept. Basically, it is a mystery, as to all the inner workings, though, as our human mind cannot understand all the various intricacies of the Bible.

When we are on the earth, we see through a glass darkly. This entire working of God's choosing and our accepting and His knowing, beforehand is a mystery, to a large extent

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