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ilunatique
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posted September 11, 2014 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Continuing this from my past topic on the aquarius age inspired from the bible too http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum30/HTML/000127.html
.. continuing in a more religious manner, though.


So, who is Jesus?



Jesus Christ was born of the virgin Mary on December 25th in Bethlehem, his birth was announced by a star in the east, which three kings or magi followed to locate and adorn the new savior. He was a child teacher at 12, at the age of 30 he was baptized by John the Baptist, and thus began his ministry. Jesus had 12 disciples which he traveled about with performing miracles such as healing the sick, walking on water, raising the dead, he was also known as the “King of Kings,” the “Son of God,” the “Light of the World,” the “Alpha and Omega,” the “Lamb of God,” and many others. After being betrayed by his disciple Judas and sold for 30 pieces of silver, he was crucified, placed in a tomb and after 3 days was resurrected and ascended into Heaven.

But.....


Mithra, of Persia, born of a virgin on December 25th, he had 12 disciples and performed miracles, and upon his death was buried for 3 days and thus resurrected, he was also referred to as “The Truth,” “The Light,” and many others. Interestingly, the sacred day of worship of Mithra was Sunday.

Dionysus of Greece, born of a virgin on December 25th, was a traveling teacher who performed miracles such as turning water into wine, he was referred to as the “King of Kings,” “God’s Only Begotten Son,” “The Alpha and Omega,” and many others, and upon his death, he was resurrected.

Krishna, of India, born of the virgin Devaki with a star in the east signaling his coming, performed miracles with his disciples, and upon his death was resurrected.

Attis, of Phyrigia, born of the virgin Nana on December 25th, crucified, placed in a tomb and after 3 days, was resurrected.

Horus. He is the Sun God of Egypt of around 3000 BC. He is the sun, anthropomorphized, and his life is a series of allegorical myths involving the sun’s movement in the sky. From the ancient hieroglyphics in Egypt, we know much about this solar messiah. For instance, Horus, being the sun, or the light, had an enemy known as Set and Set was the personification of the darkness or night. And, metaphorically speaking, every morning Horus would win the battle against Set – while in the evening, Set would conquer Horus and send him into the underworld. It is important to note that “dark vs. light” or “good vs. evil” is one of the most ubiquitous mythological dualities ever known and is still expressed on many levels to this day.

Broadly speaking, the story of Horus is as follows: Horus was born on December 25th of the virgin Isis-Meri. His birth was accompanied by a star in the east , which in turn, three kings followed to locate and adorn the new-born savior. At the age of 12, he was a prodigal child teacher, and at the age of 30 he was baptized by a figure known as Anup and thus began his ministry. Horus had 12 disciples he traveled about with, performing miracles such as healing the sick and walking on water. Horus was known by many gestural names such as The Truth, The Light, God’s Annointed Son, The Good Shepherd, The Lamb of God, and many others. After being betrayed by Typhon, Horus was crucified, buried for 3 days, and thus, resurrected.

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posted September 11, 2014 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Furthermore, the character of Jesus, a literary and astrological hybrid, is most explicitly a plagiarization of the Egyptian Sun-god Horus.

For example, inscribed about 3500 years, on the walls of the Temple of Luxor in Egypt are images of the enunciation, the immaculate conception, the birth, and the adoration of Horus. The images begin with Thaw announcing to the virgin Isis that she will conceive Horus, then Nef the holy ghost impregnating the virgin, and then the virgin birth and the adoration.This is exactly the story of Jesus’ miracle conception. In fact, the literary similarities between the Egyptian religion and the Christian religion are staggering. 

And the plagiarism is continuous. The story of Noah and Noah’s Ark is taken directly from tradition. The concept of a Great Flood is ubiquitous throughout the ancient world, with over 200 different cited claims in different periods and times. However, one need look no further for a pre-Christian source than the Epic of Gilgamesh, written in 2600 b.c. This story talks of a Great Flood commanded by God, an Ark with saved animals upon it, and even the release and return of a dove, all held in common with the biblical story, among many other similarities.

And then there is the plagiarized story of Moses. Upon Moses’ birth, it is said that he was placed in a reed basket and set adrift in a river in order to avoid infanticide. He was later rescued by a daughter of royalty and raised by her as a Prince.This baby in a basket story was lifted directly from the myth of Sargon of Akkad of around 2250 b.c. Sargon was born, placed in a reed basket in order to avoid infanticide, and set adrift in a river. He was in turn rescued and raised by Akki, a royal mid-wife.

Furthermore, Moses is known as the Law Giver, the giver of the Ten Commandments, the Mosaic Law. However, the idea of a Law being passed from God to a prophet on a mountain is also a very old motif. Moses is just a law giver in a long line of law givers in mythological history. In India, Manou was the great law giver. In Crete, Minos ascended Mount Dicta, where Zeus gave him the sacred laws. While in Egypt there was Mises, who carried stone tablets and upon them the laws of god were written.

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posted September 11, 2014 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And as far as the Ten Commandments, they are taken outright from Spell 125 of the Egyptian Book of the Dead. What the Book of the Dead phrased “I have not stolen” became “Thou shall not steal,” “I have not killed” became “Thou shall not kill,” “I have not told lies” became “Thou shall not bear false witness” and so forth. In fact, the Egyptian religion is likely the primary foundational basis for the Judeo-Christian theology. Baptism, afterlife, final judgment, virgin birth and resurrection, crucifixion, the ark of the covenant, circumcision, saviors,holy communion,  the great flood, Easter,Christmas, Passover, and many many more, are all attributes of Egyptian ideas, long predating Christianity and Judaism.

Justin Martyr, one of the first Christian historians and defenders, wrote: “When we say that he, Jesus Christ, our teacher, was produced without sexual union, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into Heaven, we propound nothing different from what you believe regarding those who you esteem Sons of Jupiter.”  In a different writing, Justin Martyr said “He was born of a virgin, accept this in common with what you believe of Perseus.”  It’s obvious that Justin and other early Christians knew how similar Christianity was to the Pagan religions.

However, Justin had a solution. As far as he was concerned, the Devil did it. The Devil had the foresight to come before Christ, and create these characteristics in the Pagan world.

The Bible is nothing more than an astro-theological literary fold hybrid, just like nearly all religious myths before it.

In fact, the aspect of transference, of one character’s attributes to a new character, can be found within the book itself.

In the Old Testament there’s the story of Joseph.

Joseph was a prototype for Jesus.

Joseph was born of a miracle birth, Jesus was born of a miracle birth. 
Joseph was of 12 brothers, jesus had 12 disciples. 
Joseph was sold for 20 pieces of silver, Jesus was sold for 30 pieces of silver. 
Brother “Judah” suggests the sale of Joseph, disciple “Judas” suggests the sale of Jesus. 
Joseph began his work at the age of 30, Jesus began his work at the age of 30.
The parallels go on and on.

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posted September 11, 2014 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Soooo.. is there any non-Biblical historical evidence of any person, living with the name Jesus, the Son of Mary, who traveled about with 12 followers, healing people and the like? There are numerous historians who lived in and around the Mediterranean either during or soon after the assumed life of Jesus. How many of these historians document this figure? Not one. However, to be fair, that doesn’t mean defenders of the Historical Jesus haven’t claimed the contrary. Four historians are typically referenced to justify Jesus’s existence. Pliny the younger, Suetonius, Tacitus and the first three. Each one of their entries consists of only a few sentences at best and only refer to the Christus or the Christ, which in fact is not name but a title. It means the “Anointed one” The fourth source is Josephus and this source has been proven to be a forgery for hundreds of years.Sadly, it is still cited as truth.

You would think that a guy who rose from the dead and ascended into Heaven for all eyes to see and performed the wealth of miracles acclaimed to him would have made it into the historical record. It didn’t because once the evidence is weighed, there are very high odds that the figure known as Jesus, did not even exist.

The reality is, Jesus was the Solar Deity of the Gnostic Christian sect,  and like all other Pagan gods, he was a mythical figure. It was the political establishment that sought to historize the Jesus figure for social control. By 325 a.d. in Rome, emperor Constantine convened the Council of Nicea. It was during this meeting that the politically motivated Christian Doctrines were established and thus began a long history of Christian bloodshed and spiritual fraud. And for the next 1600 years, the Vatican maintained a political stranglehold on all of Europe, leading to such joyous periods as the Dark Ages, along with enlightening events such as the Crusades, and the Inquisition.

Christianity, along with all other theistic belief systems, is the fraud of the age. It serves to detach the species from the natural world, and likewise, each other. It supports blind submission to authority. It reduces human responsibility to the effect that “God” controls everything, and in turn awful crimes can be justified in the name of Divine Pursuit. And most importantly, it empowers those who know the truth but use the myth to manipulate and control societies. The religious myth is the most powerful device ever created, and serves as the psychological soil upon which other myths can flourish.

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posted September 11, 2014 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted September 11, 2014 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 12, 2014 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes its all a construct, written well after the fact..the old testament throws in some genealogy to establish a link back to the first man thru to the founding of israel. The lore is written down and over time the writing itself ascribed to God.

To be fair this could be said of all such books. Separating fact from fiction becomes nearly impossible. I have no problem believing that teachers of similar spiritual power have appeared repeatedly over the ages, but I doubt they all had the same "provenance"/life story.

However even today we have spiritual "adepts" who claim to come from the most lowly places to overcome and become wealthy leaders to the truth.

There are several skeins blended into a supposedly cohesive story which as Lexx has often pointed out, is not cohesive at all. There appear for instance to be two Gods masquerading as one...Jehovah (the jealous, power hungry god) and the lord of love and light.

Adam and Eve are supposedly the First Couple but at the same time obvious references to other people are scattered thru the story.

Life explained for the simpleminded to reassure they are part of a supportive framework, at the same time as keeping them feeling small and powerless unless the big daddy in the sky favours them.

This is true of all religions, including christianity but not exclusively.

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posted September 12, 2014 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Catalina
Well said!

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posted September 12, 2014 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 12, 2014 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have made progress in some ways though...at least the king-as-divine has faded from at least christian countries...though many rulers of other places still claim to descend from god

Still there are christian fundies who claim to have a direct hotline to Him which justifies their decisions, attempting to reinstate the direct connection..Witness Ted Cruz's father talking about his son's divine appointment to rule us righteously.

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posted September 15, 2014 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And extremely well said ilunatic!! xx

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posted September 16, 2014 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 18, 2014 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 18, 2014 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
triple post
Maybe I'll fill this place with something

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posted September 18, 2014 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Triple post sorry .. Phone sucks

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