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Topic: Spiritual surrender
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Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 1827 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted January 25, 2017 12:54 AM
Have you ever done it? Spiritually surrender? Could be for any reason; anxiety, tired of being afraid, having no solution to a problem, feeling corned, not having answers, etc, etc.What happened after you did it? IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 10023 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted January 25, 2017 04:44 PM
The Thought of Heaven and Relationship with the Divine One grew sweeter ... stronger, and more solid in its alter-Reality.And my body still hurt, my head ached. I was very hungry, tired, constantly waiting on ~Something.... And I had Joy inside me. Hope. You lose your Hope? and you have nothing to go on. While the Earth .... still revolves on its axis, going around the Sun, which orbits in the Grander Universe, with Galaxies, and More Galaxies. ..... (topic) Psalm 8 ... What is Man, that you are Mindful of Him? [1:39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHTqxAUETEQ O LORD, our Lord! How majestic is your name in all of the earth! You let your glory be seen in the heavens above. Out of the mouth of babes and infants, You have established a fortress of strength, to still the enemy and quiet the avenger. When I look at your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars, which you have set in their place; What is man, that you are mindful of him? The son of man, that you care for him? You made him a little lower than the angels, and crowned him with glory and honor. You have given him the dominion over the works of your hands; You put all things under his feet: All sheep and oxen, and also the beasts of the field; The birds of heaven, the fish of the sea, and whatever passes along the paths of the seas. O LORD, our Lord! How majestic is your name in all of the earth! (music) Cells, Planets (Erika Lloyd, Avanti) [6:15] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQMOH4C7CAc IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 1827 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted January 25, 2017 09:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by mirage29: The Thought of Heaven and Relationship with the Divine One grew sweeter ... stronger, and more solid in its alter-Reality.And my body still hurt, my head ached. I was very hungry, tired, constantly waiting on ~Something.... And I had Joy inside me. Hope. You lose your Hope? and you have nothing to go on. While the Earth .... still revolves on its axis, going around the Sun, which orbits in the Grander Universe, with Galaxies, and More Galaxies. ..... (topic) Psalm 8 ... What is Man, that you are Mindful of Him? [1:39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHTqxAUETEQ O LORD, our Lord! How majestic is your name in all of the earth! You let your glory be seen in the heavens above. Out of the mouth of babes and infants, You have established a fortress of strength, to still the enemy and quiet the avenger. [b]When I look at your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars, which you have set in their place; What is man, that you are mindful of him? The son of man, that you care for him? You made him a little lower than the angels, and crowned him with glory and honor. You have given him the dominion over the works of your hands; You put all things under his feet: All sheep and oxen, and also the beasts of the field; The birds of heaven, the fish of the sea, and whatever passes along the paths of the seas. O LORD, our Lord! How majestic is your name in all of the earth! (music) Cells, Planets (Erika Lloyd, Avanti) [6:15] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQMOH4C7CAc [/B]
I once lost my faith during a Pluto transit, once. I'm slowly getting it back! IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 10023 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted January 26, 2017 12:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by Sulkyarcher: I once lost my faith during a Pluto transit, once. I'm slowly getting it back!
Day by Day... Step by Step  (music) Step by Step (Whitney Houston) [4:11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWa5vE4MUpU IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 1827 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted January 26, 2017 02:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by mirage29: Day by Day... Step by Step  (music) Step by Step (Whitney Houston) [4:11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWa5vE4MUpU
Haha! She wasn't my favorite singer, but I do love her 80's stuff because I love the 80's!!! IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 10023 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted January 26, 2017 10:35 AM
Surrender.....Thanks for listening. 'I Love my Whitney'!! LOL. Very 'spiritual'. She did GREAT Gospel music, because she felt it 'down deep in her soul'... Elvis did too. Some of the greatest Inspirational artists in the mundane entertainment field spotlights came out of a life where they had Spiritually surrendered. People might not be able to understand what that 'x-factor' is?... The x-factor is The Christ (x-Mas?) That's called 'the anointing' or for some, the Holy Spirit's presence and flow. God grants individuals with Gifts at their birth. ... If they develop their spiritual life, the particular Gift is ENHANCED. ... You get the extra-booster, the sense of that 'WorldClass' quality that sets you aside from the rest of the herd. Talent... applied Discipline. Then ADD The Anointing (aka Flow). Doesn't mean the individuals have had their 3-D lives together all the way, but they had 'extra help available' to them on the inside to get through it.
We can Spiritually Surrender, AND, we still have to 'do' the work of living and growing ourselves, wanting to DO the Right thing, and living by those Values as BEST we can. Doesn't mean you're not messed up, or that you make mistakes..... or don't have faults and shortcomings. There are no perfect saints... But we can be saints when we become Aware, and set self onto a committed Journey, not perfect but being Perfected along the way. Sometimes that doesn't always feel good to grow, at all.... It's not until afterwards... that you get the 'ah' and 'aha' moments after a level of struggles have been won. .... People who have spiritually surrendered have 'more windows' available in their soul. They can open their souls like Beams of Light, like Lanterns and portals, Allowing fresh Winds to have Spirit blow-through with a Visitation.... The Soul, as God Wills, has the ability to gain Refreshments WHILE it is Walking in the Garden, on its day to day Journey.  Every moment is a Miracle .... Being here now?.... There's a spirit that guides me A Light that shines for me My life is Worth the living, I don't need to see the end (music) Sweet Surrender (John Denver, lyrics) [5:00] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBax9ugLF1A - http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Denver,_John IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 26, 2017 12:29 PM
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Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 1827 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted January 27, 2017 02:36 AM
^ ^I like the idea of working with spirit. I should remember that! IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 27, 2017 12:41 PM
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mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 10023 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted January 28, 2017 12:10 AM
Faith ...  and Sulky!  IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 97850 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 06, 2017 02:25 PM
I think a holographic universe makes sense. Maybe the Sun won't ever supernova then. Linda said the Earth will always be. Makes you wonder what she knew and would have revealed in Twelfth Night Secrets.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 97850 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 07, 2017 10:55 AM
Or more rather a Matrix. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 97850 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2017 06:13 PM
But not in a bad way--like the movie.IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 1827 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted February 09, 2017 12:14 AM
^ ^What about if the universe is a Super computer?? IP: Logged |
Ayelet Moderator Posts: 2746 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 09, 2017 11:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: I think a holographic universe makes sense. Maybe the Sun won't ever supernova then. Linda said the Earth will always be. Makes you wonder what she knew and would have revealed in Twelfth Night Secrets.
Where did Linda said the Earth will always be? IP: Logged |
Ayelet Moderator Posts: 2746 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 09, 2017 11:17 PM
To Sulky - I have experienced surrender during a Pluto transit too! What was your transit? It didn't feel sweet to me. It felt like I lost it all, and it gave a strange peace to me. But now I'm optimistic again..IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 9278 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 10, 2017 12:26 AM
It was during a major Pluto transit that I had a divine revelation and became genuinely religious (though unlikely to be in the way most here would assume). After Pluto exited that House, then I returned to my normal ignosticism. (There were other astrological factors.)In a way it was surrender in that I let go of many assumptions and behaved even recklessly, and it turned out for the best that I did (some severe bumps and scars not withstanding). But as I became much more active in shaping my own life, some people would find it hard to see that as surrender, even if I was told in a divine vision that I must grow up and learn to stand with a goddess against Ragnarok rather than seeking to be an eternal child of a god wanting to return to some divine womb. In my early 20s, I did have a nightmare in which I completely gave up, and with that I gave up on the shoulds ("I should," "People should," "Life should," etc). It was incredibly liberating and I experimented by dropping all my responsibilities for that day and living it if it were my last. It was one of the best days of my life. Of course I can't live that way all or even most of the time, but I try to make days that are just that. And I don't plan them out, it's just what I want to do, even if it's just basking in the sunshine or stars. IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 1827 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted February 10, 2017 01:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ayelet: To Sulky - I have experienced surrender during a Pluto transit too! What was your transit? It didn't feel sweet to me. It felt like I lost it all, and it gave a strange peace to me. But now I'm optimistic again..
Neptune is transiting my 12th house. It's more of a Neptune transit than a Pluto transit. IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 1827 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted February 10, 2017 01:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: It was during a major Pluto transit that I had a divine revelation and became genuinely religious (though unlikely to be in the way most here would assume). After Pluto exited that House, then I returned to my normal ignosticism. (There were other astrological factors.)In a way it was surrender in that I let go of many assumptions and behaved even recklessly, and it turned out for the best that I did (some severe bumps and scars not withstanding). But as I became much more active in shaping my own life, some people would find it hard to see that as surrender, even if I was told in a divine vision that I must grow up and learn to stand with a goddess against Ragnarok rather than seeking to be an eternal child of a god wanting to return to some divine womb. In my early 20s, I did have a nightmare in which I completely gave up, and with that I gave up on the shoulds ("I should," "People should," "Life should," etc). It was incredibly liberating and I experimented by dropping all my responsibilities for that day and living it if it were my last. It was one of the best days of my life. Of course I can't live that way all or even most of the time, but I try to make days that are just that. And I don't plan them out, it's just what I want to do, even if it's just basking in the sunshine or stars.
Oh yeah, Pluto transits make you lose a lot!
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Ayelet Moderator Posts: 2746 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 10, 2017 07:50 AM
I was born with Neptune in the 12th. How does it make you feel? You wrote you once lost your faith during a Pluto transit. May I ask which transit?IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 1827 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted February 10, 2017 02:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ayelet: I was born with Neptune in the 12th. How does it make you feel? You wrote you once lost your faith during a Pluto transit. May I ask which transit?
It was Pluto transit through my 10th house. The surrender made me feel relaxed! LOL! But it was also a very dark transit. IP: Logged |
Ayelet Moderator Posts: 2746 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 10, 2017 09:15 PM
Interesting. I kinda love my 12th house Neptune. I would call it "spiritual yearning". All my life I have this yearning for something which cannot be expressed with words. Haven't thought about it much as 'surrender'. Pluto made me feel that way. What aspects has your tNeptune been making?IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 97850 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 14, 2017 11:53 AM
Not a fan of Neptune. Maybe I need to make friends with mine. IP: Logged |
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posted February 14, 2017 07:34 PM
This is what a cancer girl was explaining to me, she just wants to "surrender" to everything. This is more a thing for negative signs i think, as positive signs are too busy pursuing their desires to "fall back and surrender." Perhaps a water thing as well. It is amazing becuase if you have that connection to spirit; you know you can trust it IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 97850 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 15, 2017 02:00 PM
Neptune is too involved with escapism. IP: Logged |