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vansio
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posted October 27, 2020 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga

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posted October 27, 2020 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great info!! Thanks!

I've been confused about the 'times' of Kali Yuga.
Heard recently that one of the ages is coming to an end in the next weeks from now?

I 'skimmed' the info, and will come back later to study it.

What I did see, was that {in my words} you can PRAY and do your practices all you want--- but there COMES a time where it's about you, me, and the PRACTICAL.

We are INTER-Related, and need each other.
In the PRACTICAL senses, we need to engage each other in an atmosphere of cooperation, and goodwill--- in order to survive.

*~

SO. Be *practical* and WEAR the darn mask!
It would have been "temporary" IF all had cooperated.
You're shooting self in the foot, over and over!! LOL

If we ALL work TOGETHER in this effort, we can shorten the stay of COVID-19, and SAVE human lives.

At this point the 'weakest links' are those who will NOT care about the Other, and do whatever they 'want'. By selfishness, these have incredibly SLOWED DOWN the progress that we all 'could' have made had we acted Together, and on Behalf of Each Other.

Rebelling is perfectly FINE!!! Aquarian, right?!
However, USE that "energy-against".. 'towards' something (and in a direction where) it can Make A Difference for ALL.

Aquarius = Sign of Humanity.
Humanity = ALL! ALL of us. Everyone. Without exclusion.

No matter "how unique" you are,
or how separate and detached you feel you are,
you are STILL under the umbrella of HUMANITY.
ALL means all.

Rebel with a Higher Cause strong in your Heart. Rebel "with" and against the VIRUS .. not acting-against in a disorganized act, leading to constant 'unorganized' self-sabotaging for the whole of humanity.

I hear that people are "sick" of needing to care about the virus?? HAD most {95%} cooperated from the beginning, we would NOT months later 'still be dealing' with that SAME issue-- NOW.

The rebellers are RE-STARTING the count back to zero FOR EVERYBODY including themselves-- in our efforts to Defeat the Virus!! This requires cooperation to have Efforts be Rewqrded.

Don't keep RE-SEEDING what is NOT working for you, and for us all.

We pull Together, or, never get anywhere rebelling. Rebel against THE VIRUS, and not against the people who lead and know-better!! ~oy

The article made a point similar to that.

(music) United We Stand (song from 1970's,
vid Mar 15, 2020 pandemic)
[3:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T6hmoHwOyM

COVID-19
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic

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posted October 27, 2020 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquarius = Sign of Humanity.

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posted October 28, 2020 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 28, 2020 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But what is the actual cause? Can't say that I know and understand all variables involved, but I do know that physically, one of the biggest correlations is our Solar systems relative relationship to the Galactic Core.

Just as the Planets revolve around the Sun, the Sun and our entire system and EVERY Star system in this Galaxy ultimately revolves around the Galactic Core. I think for our system it takes something like 230 million years approx. to make a full revolution around same. And just as the Earth's relative relationship to the Sun creates seasons here on Earth, so doesn't our Solar Systems journey around the G.C. create larger seasons and cycles of a sort for our and other systems.

It is during periods of major Solar Alignment to the Galactic Core (which we have been under for awhile if put an aspect like orb in there, more specifically in relation to the position of the Winter Solstice Sun in relation to the Galactic Core), that our System becomes infused with faster vibration and we experience major cataclysms both via Sun and Earth crustal shifting.

Mirage, respectfully, things are not so black and white when it comes to Covid, and I'm someone that cares a lot about people. But I am also someone who has both eyes and Pineal gland open to the machinations of the psychopathic plutocrats. I'm not likely to convince you one way or another, so I'll save my breath but what I would suggest is trying this out, and asking Expanded Guidance with no preconceptions what is going on with Covid. The techniques I outline here are excellent and work well in combo.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/005200.html

I will briefly note that while Sweden has been negatively impacted in the elderly care scene (i.e. nursing homes/care facilities for the elderly), the rest of their population has fared very well. And their schools have been completely open and normal, and they have not had a single child death from Covid this whole time.

There are number of highly, highly trained, practiced, and previously highly respected (until they spoke out about Covid and the measures being too draconian) that have disagreed with the mainstream media and governmental narratives since day one. For example, Dr. John Ioannidis, Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi, and Dr. Knut Wittkowski. There have been practicing doctors who have tried to speak out on Youtube and have had their videos banned, etc.

Particularly watch interviews of Dr. Bhakdi of Germany (he does both German and English interviews, and some of the German ones have subtitles). This guy strikes me as a very wise, very old Soul, one that cares deeply about people, and yet he is highly, highly critical of how many governments have handled this. He is so worried about things, he started an organization, a collective of trained medical people to speak out about this. http://www.mshfd.org/

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Regarding Covid, this site is decent and has a lot of compiled information and more balanced and nuanced view that is skeptical in orientation:
http://swprs.org/fakten-zu-covid-19/

Oddly, my google English translator is not working so well on it for some reason. It will translate some, but not all. Didn't use to have this problem awhile back when I was checking that site. It's been awhile since I have checked it.

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posted October 29, 2020 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Da du kein Deutsch versteht, würde ich es vorziehen, wenn du seriöse öffentliche Quellen und Meinungen aus dem Inland findet. Im Folgenden sind "Fakten"prüfer aus Deutschland aufgeführt.

http://www.swr3.de/aktuell/multimedia/bhakdi-video-faktencheck-massnahmen-corona-100. html
http://correctiv.org/faktencheck/2020/06/19/impfu ng-gegen-covid-19-sinnlos-sucharit-bhakdi-stellt-unbelegte-behauptungen-auf/
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/medien/corona-falschmeldungen-youtube-facebook-1.4873470

I hope that this thread topic can stick to Kali Yuga for Divine Diversities' sake.

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posted October 29, 2020 04:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One person's reputable source is another person's state sponsored or supported propaganda.

You would think Germans and Germany in particular would understand that very well by now, as in "learning their lesson".

In any case, the only way to cut through the indoctrination and propaganda in this world, is through an awakened and clear seeing 6th Center/pineal gland. Guidance showed me awhile ago that the true rulers of this world are not the people nor the poltiicians, but very control oriented, very dark, psychopathic plutocrat types. They have this world on puppet strings and COVID is part of their plans for greater control.

Intellect alone is not enough to do so. Intellect though, does need to be a grounding , balancer for the intuition and spiritual insight.

I agree neither fully with the extremes of mainstream media and government about all this, and neither do I fully agree with the extremes of those more right and conservative leaning nor do I fully agree with conspiracy theorists so called.

I find it's somewhere in the middle and a blend of both truths, but without the distortions of either side.

This will be my last post on here of this nature.

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posted October 30, 2020 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
“Kshatriya, or the man who is qualified to protect the sufferers, is meant to rule the state. Untrained, lower class men or men without ambition to protect the sufferers cannot be placed on the seat as an administrator. Unfortunately in the age of Kali the lower class men without training occupy the post of a ruler by strength of popular votes and instead of protecting the sufferers, such men create a situation quite intolerable for everyone. Such rulers illegally gratify themselves at the cost of all comforts of the citizens, and thus the chaste mother earth cries to see the pitiable condition of her sons, both men and animals.”
― A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

"On the surface of the earth there are many great mountains and oceans that are very heavy, and mother earth has no difficulty carrying them. But she feels very much overburdened when she carries even one person who is a liar. It is said that in Kali-yuga lying is a common affair: māyaiva vyāvahārike (SB 12.2.3). Even in the most common dealings, people are accustomed to speaking so many lies. No one is free from the sinful reactions of speaking lies. Under the circumstances, one can just imagine how this has overburdened the earth, and indeed the entire universe." ― SB 8:20:4

"In the present age, Kali-yuga, the number of such shameless men, who are agnostics disbelieving in the existence of God, has increased. Trying to defy the authority of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, so-called scientists, philosophers and politicians manufacture plans and schemes for the destruction of the world. They cannot do anything good for the world, and unfortunately, because of Kali-yuga, they have plunged the affairs of the world into mismanagement." ― SB 8:22:20

"Those who are actually advanced in knowledge are able to appreciate the essential value of this age of Kali. Such enlightened persons worship Kali-yuga because in this fallen age all perfection of life can easily be achieved by the performance of sankirtana, the congregational chanting of the Lord's holy names." — SB

"The real business of human life is to keep oneself fit for advancement in spiritual realization. Human life is not meant for making the senses unnecessarily strong so that one suffers from disease and one increases in an envious, fighting spirit. In this age of Kali, however, human civilization is so misled that people are unnecessarily increasing in economic development, and as a result they are opening more and more slaughterhouses, liquor shops and brothels. In this way, the whole civilization is being spoiled." — SB 10.10.16

Twelfth Canto, Second Chapter, of the Srimad-Bhagavatam, entitled "The Symptoms of Kali-yuga.":


“Then, O King, religion, truthfulness, cleanliness, tolerance, mercy, duration of life, physical strength and memory will all diminish day by day because of the powerful influence of the age of Kali.” — SB 12:2:1

“In Kali-yuga, wealth alone will be considered the sign of a person’s good birth, proper behavior, and fine qualities. And law and justice will be applied only on the basis of one’s power.” — SB 12:2:2

“Men and women will live together merely because of superficial attraction, and success in business will depend on deceit. Womanliness and manliness will be judged according to one’s expertise in sex, and a man will be known as a brahmana just by his wearing a thread.” — SB 12:2:3

“A person’s spiritual position will be ascertained merely according to external symbols, and on that same basis, people will change from one spiritual order to the next. A person’s propriety will be seriously questioned if he does not earn a good living. And one who is very clever at juggling words will be considered a learned scholar.” — SB 12:2:4

“A person will be judged unholy if he does not have money, and hypocrisy will be accepted as a virtue. Marriage will be arranged simply by verbal agreement, and a person will think he is fit to appear in public if he has merely taken a bath.” — SB 12:2:5

“A sacred place will be taken to consist of no more than a reservoir of water located at a distance, and beauty will be thought to depend on one’s hairstyle. Filling the belly will become the goal of life, and one who is audacious will be accepted as truthful. He who can maintain a family will be regarded as an expert man, and the principles of religion will be observed only for the sake of reputation.” — SB 12:2:6

“As the earth thus becomes crowded with a corrupt population, whoever among any of the social classes shows himself to be the strongest will gain political power.” — SB 12:2:7

“Losing their wives and properties to such avaricious and merciless rulers, who will behave no better than ordinary thieves, the citizens will flee to the mountains and forests.” — SB 12:2:8

“Harassed by famine and excessive taxes, people will resort to eating leaves, roots, flesh, wild honey, fruits, flowers, and seeds. Struck by drought, they will become completely ruined.” — SB 12:2:9

“The citizens will suffer greatly from cold, wind, heat, rain, and snow. They will be further tormented by quarrels, hunger, thirst, disease, and severe anxiety.” — SB 12:2:10

“The maximum duration of life for human beings in Kali Yuga will become fifty years.” — SB 12:2:11

“By the time the Kali Yuga ends, the bodies of all creatures will be greatly reduced in size, and the religious principles of followers of varnashrama will be ruined.” — SB 12:2:12

“The path of the Vedas will be completely forgotten in human society, and so-called religion will be mostly atheistic.” — SB 12:2:13

“The kings will mostly be thieves, the occupations of men will be stealing, lying and needless violence and all the social classes will be reduced to the lowest level of Sudras.” — SB 12:2:14

“Cows will be like goats, spiritual hermitages will be no different from mundane houses, and family ties will extend no further than the immediate bonds of marriage. Most plants and herbs will be tiny, and all trees will appear like dwarf trees. Clouds will be full of lightning, homes will be devoid of piety, and all human beings will have become like *sses .” — SB 12:2:15

“At that time, the Supreme Personality of Godhead will appear on the earth. Acting with the power of pure spiritual goodness, He will rescue eternal religion.” — SB 12:2:16

“My dear King, although Kali Yuga is an ocean of faults, there is still one good quality about this age: Simply by chanting the Hare Krishna maha-mantra, one can become free from material bondage and be promoted to the transcendental kingdom.” — SB 12:3:51

“It is the lowest instincts that stimulate the men of the Kali Yuga, they prefer false ideas, they do not hesitate to persecute the sages, desire torments them, neglect, illness, hunger, the fear spread. Severe droughts The different regions of the countries will oppose each other. The sacred books will no longer be respected. Men will not have morals and will be irritable and sectarian. False doctrines and misleading writings spread in the age of Kali people are afraid because they neglect the rules taught by the wise and do not perform the rites correctly anymore. Many will perish. The number of princes and farmers will gradually diminish. The lower classes want to attribute real power and share knowledge, food and the beds of the old princes, most of the new leaders are of slave origin, they will persecute the priests and those who have wisdom. To fetuses and heroes. The slaves want to play the role of intellectuals, the intellectuals that of slaves. Thieves become kings and kings become thieves. Rare are virtuous women. Promiscuity extends. The stability and balance of castes and the ages of life disappear everywhere. The earth produces almost nothing in some places and produces a lot in others. The powerful take over public goods and stop protecting the people. Wise persons of low birth are honored as if they were Brahmans and deliver to people who are not worthy of it the dangerous secrets of the sciences. Teachers are debased by selling their knowledge. Many take refuge in a wandering life. At the end of the Yuga, the number of women increases, and the number of men decreases. During the Age of Kali, the Great God, Shiva, the dark blue and red peacemaker, will be revealed to all under a disguise to restore justice. Those who go to him will be saved. At the end of the Yuga, the animals become violent, the number of cows decreases. Good men withdraw from public life. Market cooked foods are sold in the market square. Also, the sacraments and religion are sold. The rain is erratic. The merchants are dishonest. People who beg or seek employment are becoming more numerous. Nobody stops using rude language, nobody keeps their word, everyone is envious. People without morals preach virtue to others. Censorship reigns. Criminal associations are formed in cities and towns. The water and the fruits will be lacking. Men will lose sense of values. They will have belly aches and will have their hair in disarray. People will envy the clothes of others. The thieves will rob the thieves. Many will become lethargic and inactive, contagious diseases, rats and snakes will torment men. Men suffering from hunger and fear will find themselves on the banks of the Bengal River. Nobody will live longer than the normal duration of life, which is one hundred years. The rites will perish in the hands of men without virtues. People who practice errant rites will spread everywhere. Unskilled people will study the sacred texts and will be self-proclaimed experts. Men will kill each other and also kill children, women, and cows. The wise will be condemned to death. However, some will reach perfection in a very short time. Excellent Brahmans will continue practicing the rites.“ — Linga Purâna, II. Chapters. 39, 40.

‘Try to lead a truthful life. Time cannot change us unless we try to change ourselves. Avoid foolish speculations and imaginations. Develop right discrimination and be wise. Then you always live in Satya Yuga.’

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posted October 31, 2020 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kali yuga is age of ignorance per hindu. A Golden era is coming according to Hindus. I too agree the GOlden era coincides with energy pull from the galactic core. It is pulling everybody in to it. Earth, animals, humans, etc.

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posted October 31, 2020 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I could hardly 'choose' which smilie to use!!
Thank you, Vansio!!
Glad you copied the text.

This all seems to be EXACTLY what's been going on.
It's absolutely grounded.
Plainly and observably "true."
Cannot be denied.

More..
- http://konekrusoskronos.w ordpress.com/2018/09/24/the-end-of-the-kali-yuga-in-2025-and-the-begining-of-satya-yuga-a-golden-age-another-millenial-myth/

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posted November 01, 2020 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
{Radha Mohan Das - Vedic Science} Prophecies in the Puranas about Kali Yuga and the Golden Age [22:30]

Comment to video by Youtube user, @ZapperZapped: "If we can make every man, woman, girl and boy understand importance of celibacy and spirituality, we have taken the first step to Sathya Yuga. If we can make them understand the purpose of sexual energy in nature is not pleasure, but procreation alone, then we have taken the second step. If we can make the world understand that the practice of yoga and meditation by celibate youth will not only improve their physical, mental and spiritual energies, but also sublimate sexual energy into creative energy which can be used to improve higher consciousness by naturally evolving special neural pathways and regions in their brains in future generations, then you have taken the third step. Beyond this, higher understanding evolves, and the most devastating of desires... sexual desire is almost gone, which will automatically wipe out all EGO, Selfishness, negativity and all attachments to this material reality, if at all there is anyone with a little bit of those in such spiritually exalted times. Finally, sex and lust are completely gone and pure love will emerge within men and women as they develop evolutionary technologies in their brain to procreate divine children using pure vision and thought.

But surely it's impossible to impart this divine knowledge and make humanity understand this as they are all gone far beyond any possibility of repair or even self-realization, logic and analytical mind. This is why Kalki avatar will be born to destroy all those who don't fall in the right path using law of karma, while sparing men and women who live righteous lives that are highest in standards, values, morals and ethics for this yuga."

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posted November 01, 2020 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vansio.. interesting.

Sex chakras are lower and dense-- {red, and orange}.
Belongs to 'flesh' and the dense, more 'crass' material realms. Insatiable hunger... craving more and more stimulation and focus on the 'self'. Leads to 'sleep' .

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I'm going to follow your links, later on.

Mirage, I'm being careful, but I've noticed that the more I leave the house, the more I want to be out. I need to rein it in a bit (even though I'm still not out that much). I was just looking for boots in Kohls, trying to avoid crowds (6pm on a Sunday, was a good choice, but I didn't have any luck with the boots themselves). I'm wearing my mask, I bought two more last weekend, and some hand wipes. Trick-or-treaters = some of them ended up in big crowds at the end of driveways, and it looked like several houses were throwing Halloween parties for kids, so I hope none of them get sick. Most of the adults didn't seem to care. Dad was sending candy through a pipe, into their buckets and bags, and most of the kids loved that. Two different teenagers complimented dad on that, too.

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{Radha Mohan Das - Vedic Science} Prophecies in the Puranas about Kali Yuga and the Golden Age [22:30]

Comment to video by Youtube user, @ZapperZapped: "If we can make every man, woman, girl and boy understand importance of celibacy and spirituality, we have taken the first step to Sathya Yuga..."


Speaking as someone who has gone through periods of deep, expanded, and consistent meditation and who lost the sex drive and focus completely during those times, the above seems overly extreme.

One of the few spiritual sources that I trust more than not, is Robert A. Monroe (well, mostly latter Monroe, not so much earlier Monroe). What I like about him is that he chucked all the human dogma out the window and said, well, I'm going to see for myself what is true or not.

Anyways, in his 3rd book, Ultimate Journeys, he relates that his guidance takes him to probable future about 1500 years from his time. Every human alive was like a Yeshua or Buddha in the flesh--fully awake to their true, original, Source like nature. Infused with pure, universal Love, and not limited by this dimension and it's rule sets.

Anyways, the subject of sex comes up briefly, one of these future super humans reads Bob's mind, and says something like, "And for that thought, we still very much enjoy the act".

I've met, and was friends with, people that knew Bob well--they all said he was the real deal and a very honest person. Besides his account, it aligns with my intuition and guidance tells me as well. I trust this combo far more than a random person commenting on ancient scriptures written how ever many thousands of years ago.

With that said, I do agree that sexual energy is often quite misused among humans, and far too often becomes a limiting activity in an energetic sense. A lot of people dissipate their Kundalini energy through sex via the 1st and 2nd Centers especially. But that doesn't HAVE to happen during sex. Love based and conscious sex can connect two people at all Centers and help the two people raise Kundalini up through the entire system (the most ideal process). This is what true Tantra is based on (though most Tantra is a very distorted shadow of what it's supposed to be).

I'm not saying that these scriptures are worthless or valueless. All truth is One. The Spirit has moved through many people throughout time and various cultures. But I've also seen scriptures get very misinterpreted. Happens all the time with Christianity and Christians. It's amazing how people can read certain things in, and certain things out. Humans are nothing if not immensely subjective on average.

And no real Avatar is going to come here and literally kill a bunch of people. They wouldn't be an Avatar if they did that. What can and will happen is that the Creative Forces in a more universal sense, will be working through nature and natural law to destroy this civilization. This is a very different thing than a specific Soul incarnating into a specific body, and going out and destroying a bunch of specific individuals because they don't make the grade. Yeshua had it in his power to do that very thing, and MANY expected him to as the messiah of his Age, and he said no, I have not come to judge nor destroy the world, but to love and save it through Love.

Btw, some may or may not find this interesting, but both Yeshua in the NT, and Edgar Cayce's guidance speak to the probable future and a probable wayshower, "liberator" type who would be the messiah for this age.

In the Cayce work, his guidance actually links this person to Edgar's Spirit's other Soul self who had incarnated and was called Ra Ta and then later Ra. His guidance said that he must come again during the future period or in 1998, and said that he may develop himself to be in the capacity of a liberator in those times to come in relation to the world.

In another reading about the Great Pyramid and the prophecies contained in stone in same, his guidance addresses the ancient prophecy about the coming messiah and how he would enter in 1998. Hmmm, mighty coincidental it links the same year between two readings for an important, affecting, spiritual teacher/wayshower type. A lot of people don't know this, but in Hebrew tradition there were multiple messiahs and the term is sort of the Hebrew equivalent to the Hindu term of Avatar. In Hebrew, it translates to one anointed/chosen by the Creator. It's not something solely associated with the Christ Spirit or Soul. For some reason, a lot of Cayce researchers automatically assumed that when his guidance said "the entrance of the Messiah in 1998" that they were saying Yeshua himself.

And as mentioned, Yeshua himself in the NT speaks of another individual to come--one like him, that he says that he will speak through to others/the world. This is interesting in lieu of the Cayce readings especially in relation to Ra Ta. Because apparently the Christ Spirit had incarnated at that time as a spiritual teacher with the name of Thoth, and both the Cayce readings and ancient Arabic legends say that Ra Ta became the mouthpiece for Thoth. For whatever reason, Thoth decided to stay more in the background and out of the limelight then, and literally spoke to others through Ra Ta. He was Ra's councilor, confident, and spiritual Teacher and according to guidance--was the primary designing architect of the Great Pyramid (Ra Ta was the manager of the project and had some input on some astronomical alignment stuff).

In other words, when Ra Ta incarnates or goes public, he will again be playing a similar role as he did in that life with his Teacher this time in the form of Yeshua, being the one to speak through him to the world. Yeshua speaks as if this will be more of a psychic and spiritual channeling, rather than a physical connection like Thoth and Ra had had.

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“My dear King, although Kali Yuga is an ocean of faults, there is still one good quality about this age: Simply by chanting the Hare Krishna maha-mantra, one can become free from material bondage and be promoted to the transcendental kingdom.” — SB 12:3:51

And no, not at all. This is not how spiritual development and growth works. Whoever said the above was smoking some good Wacky Tabbacky and/or their dogma ate their dharma and then threw up distortion/misperception.

It works by right living, thinking, positive service to others, attunement to Source like Love, deep meditation and prayer combo, right diet, etc, etc. It's a very holistic endeavor.

And as far as chanting/toning goes, I have found that the most universal combo that hits every Center, is starting off at a low, bass "Ahhh" raising the tone/pitch slightly through each successive one, "Rrrrr (like a pirate Harrr), "Eeeeeeee", "Ehhhhhhh", "Uuuu (like "you"), "Ohhhhhhh", and "Mmmmmmmm". By Mmmmm, you're at the highest pitch of the combo/set.

There is no one best chant for all, because we are all individual and have differences in our attunement, but the above comes closest to being a Universal system because it's balanced between all the Centers. Basically, no matter who you are or what your attunement, the above will not cause harm (via inducing imbalance).

Chanting is only a helpful adjunct to meditation and attunement. Without right living, thinking, etc, it won't get you anywhere. We're not dealing with "magic" here, but physics and Creational Law that no Spirit or Soul, not even the Co-Creator Christ Spirit can alter or break. It's part of the fabric/essence of Source and is built into consciousness itself.

What can happen though, is that a fully awakened one, CAN temporarily resonate you to near their vibration so that you can get a glimpse beyond yourself, and give of glimpse of what is true/real. This can help to accelerate one's path of growth. But you have to do the work, you have to make the choices, and it's a gradual transformational process when it comes to being connected to a human body.

If only it was as easy and automatic as chanting a specific mantra. We'd have a lot more of Monroe's "He/She" types running around and not a world of suffering and chaos, but of greater harmony, Love, and real joy.

And btw, we must be coming out of Kali Yuga, because humans generally are getting bigger rather than smaller (and have been for awhile). But physical size of bodies has nothing to do with spiritual development or lack, so I don't know why that is even a verse/"prophecy" to begin with. Did little, tiny Gandhi lack spiritual development because his Soul happened to connect to a small body?

Earth/humans: Surrounded in a sea of distorted dogma with so few drops of pure truth to drink. This is why it is so hard to successfully retrieve here, because so many are so mired in various distortions and it's a world of the blind and mostly blind leading the blind or mostly blind. And the few sighted ones here are often not recognized as such, or become so much later and by that time their teachings and image package have been altered beyond recognition (Yeshua, Rome, "Holy" [barf] Roman Catholic Church, etc).

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Hey THANKS for that audio of Kali Yuga.
Almost got through all of it, then, got interrupted.
I'll have to go back over it.
I LOVE munching down on all this!

Galactic.. When Jesus said that someone would come after he was ascended, he was speaking of The Holy Spirit descending upon each person. Living as a Holy Guide without a body. Spiritual sense, not carnal. It is OPEN to Everyone.

.. I noticed the *barf* after Holy.

If you've had no background, and never delved DEEPLY into their meanings, -- as 'gifted' as you are-- you may have "missed" some of values that were provided by their existence. Don't judge ALL of it, based on some BAD {whoah.. admittedly, super BAD!!} episodes in their existence.

The 'model' of 'the church itself' is a format for running a VERY successful 'community' of care. There's much more involved with support-relationships in the daily life, not just Sunday morning.

In past centuries, 'the church' was the center, was the Vestal-type Hearth of a whole community. It pulled everyone together, and they 'survived' whatever life threw at them.

Yes some only come for the ashes and Easter and Christmas pageantry.

There is MUCH MORE 'for' people, beyond coming to be entertained by smells and bells!

I've noticed how others out there {not just pointing at you, Galactic-- you are forgiven, } who make themselves "authorities" on what the church is about, and they BARELY ever really explored it.

WITH 'any' philosophy, belief system, religion practice-- you have to go DEEPLY into the whole culture and spend quality time in it.

Yes, I 'do' have strong very strong criticisms of some.

Okay!!
Now that I review more of my life-experience,
I'll JOIN your *barf* session!!!

However!. --- What is at the CORE of worships and teachings, leads to a sole-individual's ability to 'open' to Knowledge. Knowledge of and Relationship with the Divine is the PRIMARY Reciprocal experience.

Religion systems can help towards an individual's 'Opening' to self's OWN living relationship to the Divine.

Take Care!

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Yes Mirage, that is the common interpretation. Doesn't mean it's the correct one. Here are some of the relevant verses from the Aramaic to English:

John 14: 16 "And I shall request from my Father and he will give you another Redeemer of the accursed, that he will be with you for eternity." 17 "He is The Spirit of Truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it has neither seen him nor known him; but you know him, for he dwells with you and he is in you."

...25 "I have spoken these things with you while I am with you." 26 "But he, The Redeemer of the accursed, The Spirit of Holiness, whom my Father sends in my name, he will teach you all things and he will remind you of everything whatsoever I have told you."

...John 15: 26"But when The Redeemer of the accursed comes, him whom I shall send to you from the presence of my Father, The Spirit of Truth, he who proceeds from the presence of my Father, he shall testify concerning me."

....John 16: 12 "I have much to say to you, but you are not able to grasp it now." 13 "But whenever The Spirit of The Truth comes, he will lead you into the whole truth, for he will not speak of his own will, but he shall speak whatever he shall hear and he shall reveal the future to you." 14 "And he shall glorify me, because he shall take that which is mine and shall show you."


As mentioned earlier, in some ways, this aligns with what Cayce's guidance both prophesied for the future, and talked about a past pattern, in relation to the same Soul (Ra) in relation to his teacher (then Thoth, now Yeshua).

Prophecy: Ra Ta/Ra will reincarnate as a potential liberator type at the general future period that his source only talked about i.e. the 40 year testing period from 1958 to 1998, and then they added or "1998" (there was something special, significant about that specific year). Referenced from Reading 294-151 (i.e. one of Edgar's own readings for himself)

Then in another reading about the Great Pyramid and the prophecies contained in same, towards the end of Reading 5748-5, after talking about the Great Initiate, Yeshua and his cousin who became the Baptist being initiated in the the Great Pyramid, the guidance states, "...and again there is seen that this occurs in the entrance of the Messiah in this period--1998."

There's that same year in two different Readings about the Great Pyramid and two different references to a messiah/liberator type. Hmmm, I'm not much of a coincidence theorist anymore. They do occasionally happen, but in such as case as the above, not likely one of those random type things.

Past wise: In his past life Ra Ta was the mouthpiece of the Christ Spirit in the form of the Soul who incarnated then as the Teacher Hermes/Thoth. Yeshua is still in the Earth as Yeshua. He is not being reincarnated.

But if we combine what Yeshua said with what Cayce said, basically it equals to, Ra post his life as a human, eventually ascended to some very high levels in the nonphysical, perhaps even close to the core of Source. Yeshua would request of Source/Prime Creator (aka his Abba), that Ra come back and replay his role as a mouthpiece for him, this time in a more perfect and spiritualized way, as to become a liberating force to humans and the world in these periods to come.

Besides what the NT and Cayce's guidance says, I have received a number of guidance messages about the nature of the 2nd coming process, and it aligns with the above combo interpretation.

Nor does it only involve reincarnated Ra and his teacher Thoth-Hermes/Yeshua, but Cayce's guidance also adds in another figure to the whole mix. His guidance strongly hints that John the Beloved would also reincarnate as an important spiritual messenger (not a forerunner) to help prepare the way.

I have also received some guidance about this person as well.

Regarding the Roman Church. Let's do a brief history recap. Original Christians were primarily Hebrews and Greeks with a smattering of some Romans and others from other groups, and Rome/Romans started literally hunting them down, tortured, and killed many of them.

But they could not suppress this growing movement no matter what they did or nor matter how many they tortured and killed. Being the clever psychopathic types that they were, they realized, if we can't beat them, let's sort of join them. In other words, let co-opt this movement, turn it to our ends, and use it for political control and manipulation of the masses.

And that is exactly what they did, and did very well. Thus was born the "Holy" Roman Catholic Church which became a very rich entity from the all the tithes in the many different lands it was collecting from. They taught a very different Christianity than what the original/first Christians knew and what Yeshua taught.

Am I saying that this group and all codified, organized Christian groups are all completely negative? No. Some have done some good here and there besides the immense harm, deception, and manipulation that some have done.

John the Beloved saw the probable development of all this and spoke about it thusly in Revelations (Note, he specifically names the two most prominent colors of the "Holy" Roman Catholic Church and focuses on it's material WEALTH):

"The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. The name written on her forehead was a mystery: babylon the great, the mother of prostitutes and of the abominations of the earth. I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of God’s holy people, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus (Rev. 17:1-6, NIV)."

This prostitute and ***** of babylon that Yohannan was seeing IS the Catholic Church who took and twisted Yeshua's teachings for their own material gain (which they gained much of by doing so).

Anyways, all part of the Kali Yuga type Age, cycle, and process. An age/cycle of deception, deep spiritual ignorance, of might makes right (which the Church has participated throughout time).

I'm not interested in belief systems nor illusions, but only truth. Truth can only be found in partial, distorted ways when it comes to codified, organized, human belief systems. Once non fully enLightened hands get a hold of an enLightened person's teachings and starts interpreting it through their muddied lens, then does distortion and error get injected into same.

Deeper, undistorted truth can only be gained from going deep within to the sources of truth--in this case, Yeshua himself. I would much prefer to commune with him, than read my fellow human's interpretations of his teachings, meaning, etc. And especially not to an entity with such a negative and sordid past as the church.

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Scripture that parallels the description of Kali Yuga.

QUOTE
11 and many 'false prophets' will arise and mislead many.
12 Because of the multiplication of lawlessness, the love of most will grow cold.
13 But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.…
- http://biblehub.com/matthew/24-12.htm

Perseveres .. not being swayed.
Conspiracies are outrageous --
but {as you say}
staying in steady consultation with your Heart, hopefully, you won't get lost and caught-up by it.


Using scriptures without background and context is super messed-up-- people think they are 'experts', reading without "knowledge" and deep study, with contemplation.

The Aramaic-English version
is ALSO quoted by Sunni Islam.
They have their own definition of God; are against any notion of Jesus glorified; and they claim that the {Redeemer} Holy Spirit is ACTUALLY the personal incarnation of {their interpretation of} Muhammed.

We used to have a devout Sufi among us here at LL.
We had MANY positive exchanges. I miss her.
Hope she's doing well.
She unregistered.

MANY of the sects that formed are off-message from the original.

Galactic, since you like translations of scripture verses, you might like the post I left full of 'clickable free resources' to study-tools.

'For The Pilgrim's Progress' forum
"Sacred Texts Online"
by Donna - October 26, 2002
page 2, my post August 1, 2019
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000093-2.html

My favorite was the Interlinear Bible.
See description.

*~
Anyways... it's a couple days after the USA elections, and still no valid declared outcome.

At this point, after much exposure to some of the politically motivated "religious" money-motivated clergy, I'm severely repulsed. They serve the 'god of mammon and make themselves bloated with more and more RICHES-- having "twisted" scriptures in order to validate their biases, and serve their lusts -- straying FAR off the original path.

Makes me hesitant to identify self as one, because of what *they* publicly represent.

I like this TOPIC.
Their prediction was from LONG ago,
and as compared to society in this contemporary world,
is shocking and JAW-DROPPING

Stark!

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I find outer sources interesting, and potentially worth looking at. For example, scriptures, what various forum members say, or even putting the Cayce readings into that category.

But what I truly RELY on, is the guidance I get from going deep within and asking the Sources of truth with humility, with no preconceptions, no beliefs, what is true or not.

As I said earlier, the internal guidance I've repeatedly gotten aligns with the combining of Yeshua's prophecy/predictions with Cayce's, and it all relates to the so called 2nd coming of Christ.

The 2nd coming is not about the man Yeshua so much. It's about the Christ Consciousness being awakened within humanity in general. Yeshua NEVER really left anyways. He's been in the Earth interacting with humans in a physical like way for a couple thousand years (same form/looks he had when born and grew into a man). He's incognito because he knows that if he went public again, people would again worship him as a God among humans and again put him on an unreachable PEDESTAL, rather than trying to fully follow in his footsteps which is what he wants.

So, this is what he (and we all) needs. He needs a couple other Souls in human form, to get to his level, and manifest that attunement in unmistakable ways to humans, so that they can see that it's truly a path and potential of ALL Souls, and not just one "special" Soul (this was part of Rome's twisting of his message). This is the true 2nd coming.

But here's the kicker, once these couple of humans attune to Source and pure Love enough, and demonstrate this attunement to the world in unmistakable ways, then he himself, will go public for a time with those couple friends/co-workers, and saying to the groups gathered, "These humans you see before you are a manifestation and fulfillment of my promises to you 2000 years ago--that if you live, and choose like me, you become like me, even to doing similar and greater works that I demonstrated then."

This combo event will greatly inspire humanity and the individual humans alive, to get their spiritual butts into gear, and endeavor to become like these Christed ones. This is a big part of what eventually leads to what Robert Monroe saw for the probable future 1500 years from now, where EVERY human alive is like a Yeshua in the flesh.

Now tell me Mirage, should I listen to you, or to Him who has been involved with showing me some of this? My own dreams and deep meditation visions, or you? Conventional interpretation of scripture or what I've been directly shown?

And besides, can you adequately explain the Cayce prophecies and predictions I have brought up? Reincarnated Ra to become a liberator of the world in the relation of those periods to come, and reincarnated John the Beloved* born in America to become an important messenger of him (Yeshua/Christ Spirit)?

I know you are familiar with and have respect for this source.

*Years ago, I had a dream where I was at a social function which a lot of spiritually intune people were at, and Bruce Moen (someone I knew a bit in person, an "afterlife" author and teacher), came up to me and told me very intently, "Go find John, he is more intune than me".

Before that, I was talking with a chap online, and for some reason, I kept getting the feeling that he was the John the Beloved reincarnated person who Cayce had predicted. But I didn't tell him any of this, and he wasn't particularly interested in Cayce's work anyways. But a little while after me wondering/feeling/intuiting this, he told me completely out of the blue one time, *I don't know why, but my guidance refers to me as John sometimes*. His name is not John in this life, nor was he aware of that prediction.

I had the above dream I mentioned, after a long while of no contact with this person. Now Bruce was a person I considered pretty intune, and for a little while, I actually looked up to him as sort of a teacher for me. For "dream guidance Bruce" to tell me this John person is far more intune than him, was saying something.

Except for when I'm joking around, there is not much that I say to others that is casual in nature--that doesn't have some deep experience and/or guidance behind and informing it. I don't go into all the various experiences and messages I have received, because I already tend to write too much as is and for other reasons.

But I certainly don't need you or anyone to believe me about any of this, and I don't really expect others to automatically believe. I would hope that like self, they would likewise go deep within and ask Expanded Guidance under more ideal conditions what is true or not. Without that turning within process, scripture and outer sources are not all that helpful.

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