posted December 24, 2008 03:22 AM         

The ruler of her 3rd is Neptune. The ruler of her 4th is Mars and the ruler of her Asc is Jupiter. All 3 are in the 12th house conjunct and opposing her Moon. Her 4th and 8th house are also empty, except for Vertex in the 8th.

She was very 'able', let's say, to detach. Her reactions to things, which would make most people cry, was to laugh. The only time she got emotional at all was when she was drinking. Since she was an alcholic this happened pretty frequently, however most of her emotion was still rooted in anger and aggression. Possibly due to her IC in Aries I suppose. Every once in a while she would cry and tell me she loved me.

She also has Sun conjunct NN in Aqua, 2nd house so I assume that in a lot of cases she was being true to her destiny in that she really knew how to detach...it's just unfortunate that in doing so she drove most of her friends away, including me. I could stand to learn a thing or two about detachment (thank you 2008 solar return Moon in Aqua!) but having little or no empathy for your closest friends is not the ideal bonding tool.

It's sad though because there are a lot of amazing things about her. But there were always too many extremes and after 5 years it became too exhausting to be her friend.

posted December 24, 2008 08:52 AM           

As a matter of fact the ruler of all my personal planets are in water.

posted January 18, 2009 07:14 PM         

I experience feelings. For example, the feeling of annoyance when I keep reading superficial postings that assert that water void means a person incapable of experiencing emotion, empathy, or anything else that the average normal person experiences.

posted January 18, 2009 07:42 PM         

It doesn't mean I will but that makes me like a lot of people. Anyone who is genuinely sensitive to others will appreciate this need for privacy and will not probe.

Today I talked about an incident with a friend, where she felt hurt, I felt annoyed. Futhermore I felt annoyed that she felt hurt. It seemed obvious to me that her feelings were hurt and that this could have been avoided by some simple courtesy. Outside of LL this counts as empathy.

posted January 18, 2009 10:00 PM         

there are lot of things we are mentioning here...emotinal, sensitive, feelings, etc etc

i read in Amy keehn's book that (she is relationship counsellor and has a v diffremt take)
she thinks fire and water are more compatible as they are more "comfrtable" with expressing and expereincing feeling, there love style and needs match

on the other hand water and air (though we cant say they lack feelings or depth) but are made from very differnt fabric, they become v uneasy with display of too much emotion and feelings....(though i think air signs are v sensitive they just dont express it or start logically analyzing it).....

another point ....lot of people are mentioning i have only planet in so and so elemnt.....actualy (i learned it from some good astrolger) may like to consider that having only single planet in an element makes it a "SINGLETON" ...a very powerful infuence. so if you have only one earth sign lets say only moon in virgo than it will become prime focus of your chart...and somehow you will express it in some unique overemphaized way....maybe moon in virgi singleton will be overcritical in emotions....so watchout for singleton elements......

posted January 18, 2009 10:24 PM         

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I lack Earth (only NEPTUNE in Capricorn... lol the flightiest planet), and I can't do mundane chores very well. Like, I am the messiest person ever.

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writesomething ~

When I first read the title of this post I thought, Oh no, writesomething is in a cold part of the country and her pipes have frozen and burst, poor thing

posted January 18, 2009 10:31 PM         

do you think you are very meticulous in your work?

posted January 18, 2009 10:42 PM         

1st house.
My office at work is cluttered, but quite organized. My computer files and bookshelves are organized. It's just my house that's a disaster
I am decidedly NOT a Clean Freak

I have Mars opp Moon in Pisces (8th), sextile Mercury in Scorpio (3rd), and squaring Jupiter in Gemini (11th). It's also the boomerang planet for my Yod.....

posted January 18, 2009 10:47 PM         

so (unlike 6th house which is daily routines, house, chores) maybe mars earth singeton in 1st makes you very judicious about spending your analytical and thinking abilities about matters which are of direct practical importance to your self....eg instead of spending time on cleaning home or desk, you will spend time in organizing stuff (eg. files) which are more practical, useful and rewarding....