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CrabbyFish
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posted December 27, 2008 04:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message
WOW..that last reply was for Glaucus. I didnt realize so many responses had come back. Thanks. Ill keep reading!

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Glaucus
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posted December 27, 2008 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
flyin_free_70,


I have already begun looking at your nephew's chart. I will give you my findings
tomorrow.


He has Eris in 16'27 Aries square Midheaven in 16'22 Capricorn. That's only 5 minutes of arc! It's the narrowest orb aspect in the chart too. Midheaven is the most time-sensitive point,very personal. Cosmobiologists say that Midheaven is the "I",the soul.

That's a very strong,challenging aspect involving a Kuiper Belt object.
Eris is the largest dwarf planet, and it is actually a scattered disk object. It orbits way beyond Neptune,and so it can be viewed as being highly metaphysical in its effects. It has a highly eccentric orbit and orbits well off the ecliptic unlike the planets,and that would indicate divergence. It has a Persephone-like orbit in that it orbits half of its time away from Pluto like Persephone was away from Pluto for half a year. It was Eris' discovery that led to Ceres and Pluto to be made equals as dwarf planets. The myth of Eris fits with ideology,diversity issues in that Eris caused men to quarrel by making them believe their opinions are right and others' are wrong.

so with Eris square Midheaven can indicate the "I",soul involves divergence,diversity. There could be a strong equal rights,advocacy theme. For instance,many neurodivergents tend to be discriminated against,and so they deal with equal rights issues which require advocacy. They could use their experiences of being neurodivergent to be neurodiversity advocates.
Mars squares Eris - 1'03 - divergent actions
Eris square Mars-Midheaven
corresponding midpoint picture of
Eris square Mars/Midheaven - '28
This indicates that he asserts himself or his objects in a divergent manner.
Mercury sextile Eris - 1'01 indicates a divergent thought processes

I believe that kuiper belt objects are highly metaphysical. After all they orbit beyond Neptune....especially Eris and Sedna. I believe that if the kuiper belt energies are too strong,they could manifest as problems on the physical plane. Neurodivergence could be one of those forms.
It may not be a problem. It depends on the type of neurodivergence as well as how it's perceived.

He has a Thors Hammer which is an 8th harmonic triangle...it tends be a challenging,it can be a lot of frustration, but it can be productive like a t-square.

it's when 2 planets are in a square to each other, and a 3rd planet sesquiquadrates both to form an 8th isosceles triangle

in his case,

Jupiter sesquiquadrates Mercury-Pluto square
with a corresponding midpoint picture of
Jupiter oppose Mercury/Pluto - '47

so mainly expansion of intense thought processes. Jupiter expands whatever it touches...Jupiter can be about overdoing. So it can be about overdoing intense thinking which could lead to obsessive thoughts...especially when it involves narrow interests. That would fit with Aspergers profile. It would also be great for research too. Many aspergers are very good researchers when it comes to things that they are interested with their ability to delve deep into an interest to the point of exclusion of other things. I think the configuration could be good for optimism,confidence,and belief in one's intellect too as well could be good for verbal communications.


I also find it strange that he has Moon conjunct Mercury/Neptune midpoint - '26. That's the same midpoint configuration that I found in the Dyslexic boy's chart that I just got done looking at. What a synchronicity!

I think this has to do with extremely sensitive nervous system like in sensory integration issues that many neurodivergents have. This configuration also could indicate
being highly imaginative,thinking in pictures like visual thinkers do.

I will look more into his chart.


Raymond

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CrabbyFish
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posted December 27, 2008 08:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Glaucus...about Moon Rate of Speed..YES!..I have known this about him since he was about 6 months old or so. I had the good fortune of owning a copy of the WONDERFUL book, "Optimum Child" by Gloria Starr. I have Always taken this into consideration. He is HIGHLY intelligent. We have no concerns there. Up until the time he was about 18 months this didnt seem to apply to his social nature. He seemed very "into" people. Having a bit an effect on them...a winning smile...a special aura. I always attributed his smile to Libra Sun and his Aura to his Scorpio Ascnt and Pluto in first house. After 18 months tho..he seemed to turn inward. We did have a bit if a family trauma about that time..;asting a few months. Also..this was about the time he has 6-7 shots in one visit. SO its hard for me to say which, if any, of those things may have contributed. Concerning the family trauma...I was very traumatised and felt i wasnt as "emotionally available" as I could have been.

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CrabbyFish
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posted December 27, 2008 08:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I am still reading all your posts Glaucus and I just want to say again THANK U SO MUCH for taking an interest in his chart. I will respond more when I have read them all..I am LOVING it! I feel so happy/blessed to have found someone with a grasp on the spiritual aspects. This is wonderful.

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CrabbyFish
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posted December 27, 2008 09:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message
In the meantime I do have a couple of questions for you...did you ever find out about Kuiper Belt activity> And also...how did u learn of your Frontal Lobe activity? THe Frontal Lobwe is facinating. HAve u ever read Rudolf Steiner? According to him..there bigger frontal lobes and smaller, more reptilian frontal lobes. If you follow what he writes (its called Anthroposophy...Anthropology is the study of the evolution of man...Anthroposophy is the study of the spiritual evolution of man)
According to Anthroposophy....Abraham was the first to have thid active Frontal Lobe...responsible for his visions and power to break away so completely from his family and follow this calling that he had.

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CrabbyFish
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posted December 27, 2008 09:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message
How does one discover the activity and such of their frontal lobe? MRI?

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Glaucus
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posted December 27, 2008 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I looked at his kuiper belt objects
I looked at the larger ones.

All the planets beyond Saturn are referred to as outerplanets, and so they are related to metaphysical energies. Uranus is the planet of liberation from boundaries as it breaks way with its need for independence,and it is associated with innovation and intuitive flashes. Neptune is the planet of dissolution of boundaries as it pierces the veil to reveal another world,and it is associated with imagination,inspiration, and psychism. Pluto is the planet of elimination of boundaries, and is compared to being the other side. This could be death,afterlife,or could be the subterranean depths of the human psyche. It is possible that Pluto's fellow transneptunian objects could be similar to Pluto. I believe that Pluto and its fellow transneptunians can be energies so metaphysical that they can be hard to handle and can manifest as problems on the physical plane such as serious health problems,psychiatric disorders, and even neurodivergence which are often subtle in their own way and very misunderstood. These aren't necessarily bad things. Neurodivergence tends to be very misunderstood,and it was unknown for a long time. The issues tend to be subtle. They have also been known as hidden handicaps.

With that in mind, I believe that it makes sense that the kuiper belt objects associated with unknown,hidden,subtleties could be indicators for neurodivergence.

Varuna in 8'24 Cancer
quincunx Moon in 8'11 Sagittarius
quincunx Uranus in 9'01 Aquarius

YOD of Varuna quincunx Moon-Uranus sextile
with corresponding midpoint picture of
Varuna oppose Moon/Uranus - '12

Unusual feelings of a highly metaphysical nature that involve issues with judgment and the need make adjustments in order to integrate feelings and intuitive perceptions. It seems that there could be strong liberal sense of justice

20000 Varuna is a Kuiper Belt asteroid(orbiting beyond the orbit of Neptune), with a period of 284 years, 315 days. It was discovered at 10 Cancer 29 on 28 November 2000 at 9:51 a.m. MST at Kitt Peak Observatory near Sells, AZ by Robert S. McMillan, who named it for the Hindu god of the waters, who preceded the storm-god Indra as king of the gods. Once, Varuna ruled the sky as well, but after a great war between the Vedic gods and demons, the gods decided that each should be assigned a clearly defined sphere of influence to avoid future conflicts. Varuna got the waters of the earth to rule and Indra got the sky. Varuna sits with his wife Varuni on a throne of diamonds and the deities of the rivers, lakes, and springs of the world form his court. Varuna is the custodian of the various demons of the ocean. He is also associated with clouds and rain, and is credited with sustaining life by virtue of giving rain and crops. Varuna is often shown as a fair-skinned man who rides either a crocodile, or a monstrous fish named Makara which has an antelope's head and legs, or a chariot drawn by seven swans; he holds a serpent, a noose, a conch shell and a vessel of gems in each of his four hands. The noose is in one of his right hands. He is sometimes described as having a thousand eyes with which he oversees the whole world, or as encompassing the entire world. Varuna means "he who covers" in Sanskrit.

Keywords for asteroid Varuna, to me, include judgment, judgmentalism, inquisition, moralizing, justice, hugeness, grandness, grandiosity, bombast, pompousness, egotism, immortality, global, unforgettable, apocalyptic visions. http://www.geocities.com/mahtezcatpoc/varuna.html


Sun in 3'21 Libra
Mercury in 4'01 Libra
Haumea in 5'05 Libra
Quaoar in 4'24 Sagittarius
Pluto in 5'46 Sagittarius

Sun-Mercury-Haumea sextile Quaoar-Pluto

This seems seems like an ego/self expression,mental activity are highly metaphysically oriented,,having the opportunity to creative problem solver because of the ability to penetrate through things that are complexed.


In Hawaiian mythology, Haumea (pronounced [hʌuˈmɛja] in the Hawaiian language) is the Hawaiian goddess of fertility and childbirth. With Kane Milohai, she is the mother of Pele, Kā-moho-ali‘i, Nāmaka, Kapo and Hi‘iaka.[citation needed] She was a powerful sorceress, and gave birth to many creatures, some after turning herself into a young woman to marry her children and grandchildren. She was finally killed by Kaulu.

The Hawaiian goddess is not to be confused with a Māori god named Haumia or Haumia-tiketike, the god of wild plants and berries; he is the god of wild food, as opposed to (his brother) Rongo, the god of cultivated food.

On 17th September 2008 the International Astronomical Union (IAU) announced it named the fifth known dwarf planet in the Solar System "Haumea" after the Hawaiian goddess. The planet's two moons were named after Haumea's daughters: Hiʻiaka, after the Hawaiian goddess said to have born from the mouth of Haumea, and Namaka, after the water spirit said to have been born from Haumea's body.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haumea_(mythology) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haumea_(dwarf_planet)


Asteroid 50000 Quaoar was discovered on June 4, 2002 by Chad Trujillo and Michael E. Brown at Palomar Observatory near Pauma Valley, California. It has a period of 283 years, 288 days.

Quaoar was named for the creator god of the Tongva Indians (also known as the San Gabrielito Indians), a Southern California tribe who once occupied more of the Los Angeles area than they now do. Quaoar, a force without form or gender, danced and sang Weywot, Sky Father, into existence; then, they created Chehooit, Earth Mother, and then Quaoar and Weywot and Chehooit brought Tamit, Grandfather Sun, to life, and then came the rest of the universe.

Astrologically, Quaoar seems to signify creation, procreation, demanding, trying experiences, being placed under a microscope, viewing less attractive aspects, flaws or complexities, scientific activities; also, questioning, constructing, clarifying, revealing, creating abstract mental models, a spirit of discovery, the big picture [says Jonathan Dunn]. http://www.geocities.com/mahtezcatpoc/quaoar.html

Orcus in 20'20 Leo
conjunct Midheaven in 22'29 Leo

This seems like a highly intense individual whose aim of life involves transformation,questioning and challenging things in society that maybe be wrong which might lead to appear as too bold and audacious.

Asteroid 90482, Orcus, a trans-Neptunian object, was discovered on February 17, 2004 by Chad Trujillo, Michael Brown and David Rabinowitz at Palomar Observatory near Pauma Valley, California. 2004 DW has a period of 248 years, 4 days.

Orcus was named for the Roman god of death, whom the Greeks called Thanatos and who is sometimes identified with Pluto.

Astrologically, Orcus seems to indicate the following: popularity, populism, private effort, the grass roots (according to Jonathan Dunn); bringing death (according to Chryss Alexander); also, audacity, boldness, "seizing the day," questioning or challenging, dissent, predatory, ravaging, corruption, a fallen state, heavy or strong retaliation, having something to say, giving up or giving in.

Raymond


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CrabbyFish
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posted December 28, 2008 12:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Sun/Neptune conjunct Venus/Uranus - '25
sensitive ego merge with unconventional relating

Mercury/Neptune conjunct Venus/Uranus - '05
sensitive mind merge with unconventional relating
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GLAUCUS:

This makes sense to me. I'll give you an example of how a "disiplinary scene" would go.

I tell him he needs to pick up his mess now.

He says.."Everybody talks to me like a SLAVE!

THis catches nme off guard, I wasnt rude to him. As parents often CAN be from time to time. So I just say ..no..you just need to clean up your mess.

HE asks...Mom, whats a slave?

I explain to him that a slave is owned by somone and has no human rights of their own. THey have to do whatever somone tells them to do. It's not right.

He says...well, i;m treated like a slave!

I say...No, you are free. Free to make your own choices and decisions. But when you free, you also have responsibility...and you made this mess, its yours and you have to clean it up.

He says..Ok


Its always something like this. I have to always explain things like this. Its easier now that he is older and he can formulate his questions. I LOVE IT. And you can see that he is NO WAY lacking in intelligence. He just comes from a very unique angle. (unconventional relating) Sometimes I think he is more sane than anyone I know. LOLL.


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CrabbyFish
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posted December 28, 2008 12:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Thats great stuff GLAUCUS!!! Thank U so much! I am going to delve in to all this that u wrote and I am sure to have a couple questions later...I will wait. U seem quite busy! Tahnk u Tahnk U Thank U!

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posted December 28, 2008 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
The frontal lobe activity was very obvious in me. I always felt overactivity in the front area of my head when I was stressed,upset,and or confused(usually all 3 occurred at once) when I was overly stimulated by my environment,stressors....especially when I was in the navy, out to sea working in the message center where there was heavy message traffic...especially when on WESTPAC.


What are the Frontal Lobes?

"The frontal lobes are considered our emotional control center and home to our personality. There is no other part of the brain where lesions can cause such a wide variety of symptoms (Kolb & Wishaw, 1990). The frontal lobes are involved in:

· motor function,

· problem solving,

· spontaneity,

· memory,

· language,

· initiation,

· judgment,

· impulse control…

· social and sexual behavior. http://www.causeof.org/suggbrain_front.htm

so when I have too much activity in the frontal lobe, then I have problems with those things

I haven't read anything about Steiner. I think that he's the one that came up with Waldorf School which is a good school for rightbrained types of children to attend.
I wish all educational institutions have wholistic approach to learning.

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CrabbyFish
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posted December 28, 2008 02:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Yes, that's who R. Steiner is.. My children attended Waldorf for 5 years. Unfortunately my oldest son had a teacher who didnt honor the "mystery" that all children/people bring into this world. Different approaches, etc.... She had a standard, and everyone had to fit in to HER ideas. BLA!! So sadly..I had to leave. But I LOVE the school. Also..they had NO way of being able to handle T G. A SHAME..for I beleive that Waldorf school is perfect for him.

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posted January 01, 2009 04:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Well..it may very well indeed run in my family, Glaucus. If you have any time...could u please look at one more chart? This is my cousin's son. We are cousins by our Mothers..they are sisters. And we each have a son who is neuro-divergent.

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