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Topic: What is your self undoing...shown by 12th
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good girl
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posted December 30, 2008 01:29 PM
  
Can we find our primary self undoing tait by examing the 12?For me:.
Leo on 12th,empty house. But leo's ruler the sun is square moon in libra= I want to get along at all cost, even loss of sense of identity (sun) and my ambition (sun in capricorn), because heaven forbid I offend, distrub or rock the boat with others. IP: Logged |
blue moon
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posted December 30, 2008 01:41 PM
Depends what house system you are using. I use Placidus, which puts the ruler as Venus, same as 11th and 7th. Which conjoins the Desc and Mercury, and Squares Mars and the Nodes. I've worked out that is it often better to keep my gob shut and say nothing. I try and be more discriminate in the arguments I pick. IP: Logged |
Libralove09
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posted December 30, 2008 04:56 PM
my 12 is in cancer, my moon is in aries, which is in the 9th house[pisces cusp] placidus im using.my moon aries is part of my cardinal grand square, so it opposes my venus libra, squares my saturn/neptune/uranus cap planets, and squares my jupiter in cancer. i have no idea hot to interpret that. IP: Logged |
alvarella777
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posted December 30, 2008 07:55 PM
No clue on my own 12th house, as far as the idea of self-undoing is concerned. In fact, my 12th is practically empty - and the house ruler is pretty well aspected and my chart ruler, by the way.12th house cusp in Scorpio - right on 12th house cusp sits my Moon-Pluto-Midpoint. Scorpio happens to my ASC - and Scorpio's ruler Pluto is the ruler over my whole chart. Its' placed in my 10th. cj. my MC and receives supporting aspects only such as sextile Sun, sextile Mars, sextile ASC, sextile Neptune trine Saturn. The ONLY stressful aspect is Pluto-square-Moon - which seems to be a link to my Moon/Pluto-Midpoint sitting right on my 12th house cusp. Both, Pluto and Moon, are prominently placed, Pluto cj. MC in 10th - and Moon right in my 1st house, "for everyone to see." So the risk of "undoing" probably is by acting too emotional, spontaneous sometimes ... or swallowing my rage and anger ... until it bursts out at an unappropriate time? Maybe my public "reputation" might suffer from that then? IP: Logged |
Geocosmic Valentine
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posted December 30, 2008 08:10 PM
George W. Bush has Sun in the 12th House, as do I. Unfortunately, I see so many similarities between how he ran this country into the ground and how I have sometimes run my life into the ground.He is a huge example of self-undoing, it's a part of his history since before he became president. The many business opportunities he botched in his youth, he has run companies into the ground. I believe the only thing he didn't run into the ground was being governor of Texas, but then I don't know enough about that. All I know is that it's a strange feeling to hate him and then identify with him simultaneously. Madonna also has Sun in the 12th House and since I'm writing all of this off the top of my head, I can't really think of anything for her except relationships and I can't connect it with anything - no, wait! I believe that her Sun rules her 11th House of Love Received, so maybe that does count. But it doesn't seem to hurt her income from her career. The 11th House symbolizes income received from the career. Heck, they just announced today that she received more money than man should be allowed to have from her "Sticky and Sweet" tour. Gotta run...(clomp, clomp, clomp, clomp!) IP: Logged |
Astra
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posted January 07, 2009 10:03 PM
Sag is on the cusp of my twelfth house and I have Neptune in Capricorn here. Sag's ruler, Jupiter is in Aquarius in the second house, which sextiles Uranus in Sag and squares Saturn in Scorpio. I have no idea what that says about my self-undoing. I've been betrayed by a few Sags in my life so does the sign on the twelfth house's cusp indicate the sun sign that can be a secret enemy? IP: Logged |
leapinglemur14
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posted January 08, 2009 02:34 AM
huh. well im a pisces asc, NN in pisces in the 12 house, and my neptune is in the 10th house.
so i have a hard time separating reality from fantasy.
and im attracted to anything fantasy, books, movies etc.but im not so sure what the NN in pisces in the 12 means.. IP: Logged |
joyrjw
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posted July 23, 2015 05:05 PM
12th house is empty in equal house and Taurus is on the cusp. I have Venus in Capricorn in my 7th house ruled by Sagittarius. I am a pushover and want to be liked, it has caused problems. Here's a website talking about the 12th house.. https://skywriter.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/7-secrets-you-may-not-know-about-the-12th-house/ IP: Logged |
NYCdodger
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posted July 23, 2015 05:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by good girl:
Can we find our primary self undoing tait by examing the 12?For me:.
Leo on 12th,empty house. But leo's ruler the sun is square moon in libra= I want to get along at all cost, even loss of sense of identity (sun) and my ambition (sun in capricorn), because heaven forbid I offend, distrub or rock the boat with others.
Your lack of confidence does not come from your moon in Libra, because my moon is in libra and I have NO PROBLEM putting someone in their place (and I know others with this placement that are the same). People really need to stop associating moon in Libra with weakness and the lack of the ability to stand up for ones self. It sounds like your fears or lack of identity are coming from the Leo 12th house in itself. Your ASC is also obviously in Virgo so that may make you very critical of yourself and your actions. Where is your mercury located? Your Libra Moon in the 2nd house is a blessing because the moon is happy in that house. If your Sun is in Cap, then that means it should be towards the 5th house which is its natural home so my next question is this, where is your MC/IC axis located? IP: Logged |
Meatballzzzzzz
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posted July 23, 2015 09:11 PM
My 12th house is Leo and it's also empty. Ruler is the Sun in a Capricorn stellium. Sun conjuncts Uranus and Neptune and is opposite my Moon. I don't really know how to interpret that.IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted July 23, 2015 09:22 PM
My 12th, Virgo
I have Virgo Moon, unaspected
Mercury conjunct Sun/Neptune in 2/3rd
Mercury trine Saturn 0 degreeIP: Logged |
teasel
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posted July 23, 2015 09:28 PM
Libra.
Relationships are my undoing. I'm usually okay as long as my relationships are stable. IP: Logged |
whaaat
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posted July 24, 2015 12:42 AM
12 th house in Leo. Chiron in the 12 th house.My undoing is extreme escapism and an obsession with music, art, films. The desire to live in a beautiful fairy tale. IP: Logged |
Sunnya
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posted July 24, 2015 06:39 AM
12th house Scorpio. Saturn in the 12th. Scorpio ASC.I am my own self undoing. IP: Logged |
confusedaseff
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posted July 24, 2015 07:21 AM
what if your 12th house is empty?IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted July 24, 2015 07:30 AM
12H Mars (conj Asc) and Venus, Mars, Merc (conj Asc) in progressed. It appears my entire life is my undoing :-/ I can't seem to learn without first "un-do". But if I were to pick something it'd be running myself, physically and mentally, into the ground. I have zero median. I do have some hard pluto aspects though so it might come from that....wanting to obliterate everything before rebuilding..including myself. IP: Logged |
DopGang
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posted July 24, 2015 07:32 AM
Mars conjunct mercury in 12th. My words! Not just to look at it astrological, but my real life experience. No question, my words can destroy. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted July 24, 2015 10:08 AM
My Mars is in Gemini 12th and conj. ASC but the actual house is ruled by Taurus with Venus in the 11th. Seems like going out to eat with my friends is my own undoing, and so is love? Idk.IP: Logged |
Koniucha
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posted July 24, 2015 10:15 AM
I have Mars conjunct Neptune in my 12th.I'm sure there is much undoing for me with that one, lol! IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted July 24, 2015 10:49 AM
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Lion-I
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posted November 28, 2015 01:58 PM
I have Sag on 12th house cusp. Jupiter is Conjunct IC conjunct Saturn in Taurus in 4th house and Jupiter is Trine ASC, Septile Sun, and Square Node. Pluto is in H12 conjunct Chiron.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted November 28, 2015 02:03 PM
Adding to what I wrote seven years ago - Uranus in my 12th, conjunct ascendant. My boundaries/independence. It isn't self-undoing, but the people involved told me I was doing it to myself (by not doing what they wanted, or else). Holding onto my boundaries, and expecting to be treated as well as someone "in love" - definitely a Libra + Cardinal theme there.IP: Logged |
jadave
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posted November 28, 2015 02:12 PM
What about 12 house overlay synastry? Ive read it can indicate secret enemies?My mom and dad both have their moon in my 12 house. IP: Logged |
Empty Spaces
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posted November 28, 2015 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by jadave:
What about 12 house overlay synastry? Ive read it can indicate secret enemies?My mom and dad both have their moon in my 12 house.
Yeah my relatives have planets in my 12H too.Even saturn.AND i love! -----
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Seimei
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posted November 28, 2015 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
Adding to what I wrote seven years ago - Uranus in my 12th, conjunct ascendant. My boundaries/independence. It isn't self-undoing, but the people involved told me I was doing it to myself (by not doing what they wanted, or else). Holding onto my boundaries, and expecting to be treated as well as someone "in love" - definitely a Libra + Cardinal theme there.
If it is conjunct your asc , I would call it 12h. It may work there a bit, but not fully.
just my half cent ------------------
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