posted January 06, 2009 03:57 AM         

Yes, you look at the house correlating to the sign on the Desc, right?

I'm not sure what you're trying to say...

...my point about the 11th is that is often considered the traditional astrological house of "love received", so the fact that Gemini Moon women (theory: Moon, love received from) are SOOO prolific in my life, I didn't want to feel misled by the fact the 11th is both my Desc sign's natural house, but also incidentally astrology's "love received" house in which in which their Moons happen to fall...

... hence this causes a double-dose of "love received"... A) 11th house B) Moon falls in house ruled by the sign on the Desc... therefore, I wanted to be *super* careful to not make any undue extrapolations when blending both A and B energies.

See what I'm saying?

posted January 06, 2009 04:03 AM         

Please note I edited my last message after reviewing yours. I get you don't always use the 11th but you think 11th has to do with love received and you don't want to confuse them...

posted January 06, 2009 04:23 AM         

However, my ex-husband's sun fell into my 9th, which is Capricorn, and Sagittarius is my 8th house cusp. My moon didn't really do anything significant. It fell into his 2nd house. But my sun, Pluto, and Mercury fell into his 7th, and his 8th house is ruled by Libra, and that's where those planets fall with this new system - it's a tight squeeze between the 7th and 8th there.
Oh, and he also has his Uranus and Pluto in the 7th. Remember his Venus is the eighth. That's where I dump my own Venus and Uranus lol.

Yeah, so I guess according to this theory both of our suns fell into the 8th, which explain a lot lol. I didn't put any planets in his 6th, and his 7th house ruler is Mercury. I didn't put any in his 4th, and his 5th house ruler is Cancer.

He has an almost exact chart with the house placements with an ex of mine who keeps coming back, and I don't know why exactly lol.

posted January 06, 2009 04:29 AM         

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"holds up Peace sign"

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Aww, Cappadora, I didn't mean to sound harsh. I have only peace in my heart.

Nothing makes me a more sober thinker than when I feel misunderstood, so I realize sometimes I come off sternly in these moments of confusion. I only have love to give when I want to get to bottom of things, but so often it's those moments when I shed my light-heartedness for the sake of acheiving solid understanding.

Must be my Libra Moon... ironically, I argue for harmony.

posted January 06, 2009 04:35 AM         

It doesn't matter whether it "went anywhere" because since it is your Moon, the most important significance was Emotionality.

You were "really in love" with a Cap Desc, and your Moon fell in his 10th house... this fits perfectly into the mold of my hypothesis.

posted January 06, 2009 04:49 AM         

I'm sorry for any misunderstanding also, and I'm glad we're cool now. Like your Libra moon, my Venus conjunct Asc is so rattled by even the thought of fighting.

Virgo Mask,

posted January 06, 2009 05:01 AM         

And yes, it was a very intense relationship. I just realized his Mars was also in my 8th, which accounts for a lot actually. Intensity is something I need in relationships, but I daresay there was maybe too much of it, even for me. And from an Aries moon and Scorpio Venus, that's a confession I don't think you'll hear very often lol. More of an element of friendship and general compatibility was definitely needed. But we both fell HARD and fast.

posted January 06, 2009 05:05 AM           

"Virgo Mask,

I love the way you think, already delving into the extended 8th and 5th houses. I tend to think that if you already have a bunch of stuff in the actual 7th you might not need anything in the 'extended' one, but it probably doesn't hurt to have both either..."

I know that was not directed at me, but I wanted to make a comment, nevertheless.

I think all of these houses, 7th, 5th and 8th are important, as they highlight different kind of interaction.

The 7th may be the strongest (at least in bringing people together initially, as it is a cardinal house) and shows if we can relate as partners to each other, and if the other one fits our "type".

But the 5th and the 8th bring some more qualities into the equation.

5th: the romantic, sexual (in a playful way), creative energy

8th: deeply transformative, also sexual, but not as playful as the 5th and very binding.

I think you might be able to see differences in feelings here, too.
Let`s say person 1 has strong 5th house activation in synastry, while person 2 has strong 7th house activation.
Then person 1 may be romantically enticed by person 2, but not as interested in a serious relationship.
Person 2 may be VERY interested in a serious relationship as partners or in a marriage, but if there are no 5th or 8th house influences, the sexual attraction may not be as strong as for person 1.

Just a theory of mine.

So in my case that would be:

DSC in Gemini; 3rd house in Aquarius and Pisces with Jupiter in it.
So I guess Aquarians, Pisces and Sagittarius would be a good choice (they are)

5th house in Taurus; 2nd house in Capricorn with Moon in it (but in Aquarius).
Capricorns yes, Cancer no. At least no Cancer Suns.

But I often have the overlay of someone elses planets in my 2nd house, feels very sensual and warm and safe.

posted January 06, 2009 11:21 AM         

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Love the step by step analysis… the recklessness fetish is sooo connected with the Aries… I have this sign on the 5th and a guy that does stupid reckless things turns me on even if I think he’s…well…stupid…

sounds like you want a Gemini with a strongly placed sun, and a bit of Taurus and Scorp in the natal...

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OMGAAD, I thought I was the only one. The most pronounced incidence of my reckless fetish was last summer and it was a co-worker. Like GAAWD. I have a strong feeling he was a Taurus with some arien/piscean influence in him for certain reasons that I might go into later. Back to the subject, his behavior was very reckless outside of work and would often have me saying "You effin' tool!" but at the same time..... it made me want him even more. *hides*

posted January 06, 2009 12:20 PM           

i am taurus asc - 8th house cusp is sag - my fiance is sag
he is cap asc - 4th house taurus - i am taurus asc -

my 7th house is sag
his 7th house leo
both sun in each others 7th

posted January 06, 2009 01:21 PM         

I agree with you 100% percent, I've had the sneaking suspicion that it works for every house for quite some time now, even though extensions of the cardinal houses probably standout more. Yeah, and about having a 5th and 8th house influence and lacking the 7th in synastry, I tend to feel we do need the 7th represented somehow to inspire us to just plain like that person and choose them as a partner. With only the 5th represented it could just be a playful fun flirtation. And with only the 8th represented it could be just a torrid a affair and a desire to deeply explore one another, but once you've gone through the transformations of that relationship, you're unlikely to be motivated to stay that person for life. It's like the 7th house symbolism (including the extension) is an anchor that makes you feel as if you could see yourself partnered with that person for life, and the 5th and 8th house symbolism simply add to this and enhance it some flirty fun and feelings of shared intimacy. I think the Jackpot is to get all three influences together somehow in one person. That's what I'm looking for...

Dulce Luna,

posted January 06, 2009 05:10 PM         

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

posted January 06, 2009 11:16 PM         

If you have a Cap DSC look at your 10th house for extra info on who your attracted to as a serious partner. Your 10th house is probably Aries, ruled by mars in Cancer. The signs are Capricorn, Leo, Aries and Cancer are relevant for partnership and sweet liking in a relationship for you. Houses also shed light on the situation, look at which houses contain saturn and mars. If Saturn is in the 3rd, then Gemini is implicated in this as well. If your 10th is not Aries, for Pisces look at the position of Neptune, and for Taurus look at the position of Venus.

If your 5th house cusp is Scorp look at the 8th house for extra info on who is romantically exciting to you. Your 8th is probably Aqua ruled by Uranus in Scorp, so the theme for the 5th repeats itself. Signs are Scorpio and Aqua for that 'dazzle of romance' type feeling for you. The house of Uranus is the 5th so Leo is implicated somewhat as well. If your 5th house cusp is Libra, then again refer to your 7th house symbolism and the position of Venus

If your 8th house is Aqua look at the 11th for extra info who is sexy and intriguing to you, and who you'd 'merge' with mentally and emotionally as well as physically. Your 11th is Taurus ruled by Venus in Virgo. the signs are Aqua, Scorp, Taurus, and Virgo for you for that private feeling of being joined in an intimate way. Again look at the houses of Uranus (5th) and Venus for detail on what attracts you in that 8th house way.

If your house cusps are not even and don't match what I've posted above, then look to the appropriate house in relation to which sign is on the cusp. For example, if Cap is also on the 8th house cusp as well as the 7th house cusp, then you'd look to the 10th for extra info on both your 7th and 8th house relationship needs.

posted January 07, 2009 11:04 AM         

Ruler of my 10th house Neptune in my 6th house....I'm defintiely not really attracted to virgos at all even though I have moon in virgo and mars in my 6th. Virgo or 6th house overlays mostly figure strongly in my platonic friendships.

Looking at my 5th house - I have libra on its cusp. So I look at the 7th house. Ruler of my 7th house is saturn. Yes, men I'm strongly attracted to trigger my 7th house and tend to have some planet (mostly venus or merury) in capricorn.

I guess I'm not really an ideal case to test your theory. The attraction to piscean vibes could also be explained through the 'traditional' theory that mars in a woman's chart points to the kind of man she'll be attracted to. My mars is in sagittarius and conjuncts neptune. Also my juno is in pisces. Same holds true for my attraction to planets in capricorn falling in my 7th house, classic attraction theories will easily explain taht. My 5th house ruler is venus which is in capricorn and placed in the 7th house, so anything that falls in my 7th house will fulfill both my 5th house, 7th house and venus needs....

posted January 07, 2009 11:13 AM           

interesting. We share some aspects and placements.

posted January 08, 2009 02:46 AM         

Yes, that's one of the most basic, obvious and powerful indicators of an attraction... but the person whose DSC is activated will feel it more because they're the one having their partnership needs 'touched'.

EVERYONE,

Some attractions are really obvious, in the sense that they show through direct connection with the actual 5th, 7th and 8th houses. When this is lacking, that's when I turn to the extended 'version' of those houses to get the inside story on why particular people are drawn to each other when there's not much indication that they are each other's type at all based on the traditional indicators. I've found that if it's not showing via the usual methods, then it shows through the 'extended' houses in pretty much every instance that I know of...

Annf,

Interesting, if you have Libra on the 5th and then Venus and Mercury in the 7th it's no wonder your attracted to airy types, especially Gemini and Libra. If Aqua is on your 8th, then this sign is implicated for you as well. Where is your Uranus? If it's in Scorpio or Libra in your 5th then this would implicate Aqua as well. The Pisces ASC (Extended DSC and Juno sign, plus Neptune-Mars) and Cap Venus or Mercury (DSC sign) would have been just like icing on the cake when blended with some airyness for you.

ANYONE STILL CONFUSED?

Anyone who's still confused but interested in understanding how it works, I recommend reading this thread again from the beginning. Also, once again here's my list for identifying your Extended DSC...

Your Extended DSC is the house in your chart that functions as an 'extension' of your DSC. These house cusps are symbolically related to the sign on your DSC,(NOT the ASC) showing what other traits you are attracted to in others, apart from just what the DSC alone shows.

Aries rising, Libra DSC… The 7th house has double importance.

Taurus rising, Scorpio DSC… look to the 8th house.

Gemini rising, Sagittarius DSC… look to the 9th house

Cancer rising, Capricorn DSC… look to the 10 house

Leo rising, Aquarius DSC… look to the 11th house

Virgo rising, Pisces DSC…look to the 12th house

Libra rising, Aries DSC… look to the 1st house

Scorpio rising, Taurus DSC… look to the 2nd house

Sagittarius rising, Gemini DSC… look to the 3rd house

Capricorn rising, Cancer DSC… look to the 4th house

Aquarius rising, Leo DSC… look to the 5th house

Pisces rising, Virgo DSC… look to the 6th house

You can use a similar method for the 5th and 8th houses too (these are the other houses connected with different aspects of attraction between the sexes). For example, if you have Virgo on the 5th house cusp, look at the position of the 6th house cusp for extra info on the 5th. If you have Gemini on the 8th house cusp, look at the 3rd house cusp for extra info on the 8th. There is a symbolic relationship between the sign Virgo and the 6th house cusp, just as there is one between the sign Gemini and the 3rd house cusp. If one of these cusps were Sag instead, then you'd look at the 9th house cusp for this same extra info... because SAG = 9th. Just like Cap = 10th, Cancer = 4th, Pisces = 12th, and Aries = 1st etc. I'm just going through all this again because some of the people who posted seemed confused about what pattern I was using to identify an 'extended' house cusp. Hopefully this clarifies things for anyone in doubt.

posted January 08, 2009 03:22 AM         

You have a Virgo DSC right, so you look at your 6th house cusp for extra info on the 7th... 6th house is Leo... your partner has a Leo ASC!.. and an Aqua DSC, so you look at his 11th house for extra partner info for him... your Jupiter falls in his 11th house, so it would feel kind of like your jupiter in his 7th in synastry.

posted January 08, 2009 05:38 AM         

"Some attractions are really obvious, in the sense that they show through direct connection with the actual 5th, 7th and 8th houses. When this is lacking, that's when I turn to the extended 'version' of those houses to get the inside story on why particular people are drawn to each other when there's not much indication that they are each other's type at all based on the traditional indicators. I've found that if it's not showing via the usual methods, then it shows through the 'extended' houses in pretty much every instance that I know of.."

Oh, ok I see what you mean if the 'extended house' analysis is an additional layer of analysis and not the first point of reference i completely agree this is a great tool for further study.

"Annf,Interesting, if you have Libra on the 5th and then Venus and Mercury in the 7th it's no wonder your attracted to airy types, especially Gemini and Libra. If Aqua is on your 8th, then this sign is implicated for you as well. Where is your Uranus? If it's in Scorpio or Libra in your 5th then this would implicate Aqua as well. The Pisces ASC (Extended DSC and Juno sign, plus Neptune-Mars) and Cap Venus or Mercury (DSC sign) would have been just like icing on the cake when blended with some airyness for you."

posted January 08, 2009 07:54 PM           

I think there is something in that 'loved received' thing for the 11th too coz none of the other stuff fits with why I tend to attract men with moon or venus in late sag and these fall into my 11th. Although, I do have Jupiter conjunct the DSC...

Also, to me, the 11th is more about acceptance within social circles - not so intimate. That would explain why I have no idea why I end up with the type of men that I do for serious relationships.

posted January 13, 2009 11:12 PM           

So Cappadora....