posted January 09, 2009 07:50 PM            

Liz Greene associates it with your saturn position. So this is especially true for me because my saturn is in the house of other people (7).

My shadow is pisces. When people are very pisces-like (drug abusers, religious fanatics, pacifists, or people who identify with the roll martyr or victim,etc) it sometimes triggers my shadow.

So I'd really like to hear someone elses experience with their shadow.What is your shadow?

posted January 09, 2009 10:43 PM              

I find it interesting that you mention Saturn to determine your shadow - mine is in Libra. Libra isn't really my shadow, I have a stellium there and it's in my 6th and I do own those traits. The thing is, guess what my Saturn squares? Cancer. So does my Mercury and Pluto.

posted January 09, 2009 10:50 PM              

Edit* Cause you're cute & fluffy

posted January 10, 2009 05:06 AM            

I think it's my whiny self when I feel unloved and like the world hates me (Cancer). And there's a square to Mercury (2nd house ruler) from Saturn Cancer, so my shadow side can be obsessed with security in weakness, and also in general insecure when I express myself (because I feel whiny ).

posted January 10, 2009 05:16 AM              

1. planets in 4th, 8th and 12th house, that are in square or opposition

2. Square, quinkunx or oppositions from Sun or Moon to Pluto

3. retograde personal planet in square, opposition or quinkunx

4. T-squares, Yods or Grand Crosses with interceptions in the watery houses

5. unaspected Sun or Moon or personal planets (only aspects used: conjunction, sextile, square, trine, opposition)

6. Predominance of bodies in water signs (especially with defiency in earth or fire)

7. South Node conjunctions to outer planets within 5°

8. Progressed lunations falling in the shadow degrees of the zodiac (9°-10° Virgo; 14° - 15° Sagittarius; 27°-28° Pisces)
- don`t know whta that exactly means though.

I also think, SAturn will often (but not always) give a hint towards the shadow. It definitely does in my chart.

I have Saturn retograde in Cancer in 8th house with a widish trine to Jupiter and an exact quinkunx to Moon.
Moon herself has no other aspects than the quinkunx to Saturn (leaving out the asteroids of course)
So my shadow seems to contain elements of the "Moon" and "Cancer" - unsurprisingly I have met many (female) people with Cancer placements.

My mom has a Cancer ASC as well as four of my female friends; some of them even have a Moon in Cancer additionally!
My Grandma has a Cancer Sun.
However, in the case of the two friends, I`m still very close to, they also have "easier" connections to my chart.
The one friend has her Sun in Aquarius closely conjunct my Moon; the other friend has Moon in Aries exactly sextile my Moon. That definitely helps.

posted January 10, 2009 05:37 AM              

Ways of shadow activation in synastry:

1. Synastric (or composite) T-squares, Yod`s or Grand Crosses involving Sun, Moon, Venus or Mars.

- the planets that aspect Sun, Moon, Venus or Mars in that configuration give a hint to what the trigger of the shadow is:
Saturn: intimacy fears, armoring, inhibition
Chiron: shame, humiliation, sexual trauma (?), forgiveness issues
Uranus: commitment fears, emotional disconnection
Neptune: disillusionment, fantasy, addiction, romantic perfection issues
Pluto: power, control, anger, manipulation or broken trust issues

posted January 10, 2009 05:58 AM              

We can always rely on you for insight & accuracy.

posted February 06, 2009 12:49 AM            

When I first met her, I very strongly disliked her. We would argue about things all the time. Strangely, we became friends..

It was a bizarre process that I don't quite remember. But we are still good friends 'till this day. Sometimes she makes me uncomfortable, but not as much as she used to.

Also, there is this one girl I know who has her Mars in my 7th. I find that she irritates me very often, although others find her a better person than I would like to think. It's also difficult to interact with her. We can't even be in close proximity. I usually have to back away to give myself some space. Twice, she's gotten into my personal space and I found myself moving away almost involuntarily.

FistofLegend, it's a puzzle to me as to why you rattle so many people. (I'm thinking that it's because most of the time you're the one who grounds everyone, which is a quality I like in a person.) You make me smile.

posted February 06, 2009 11:35 PM              

My shadow is Scorpio; Saturn in Scorpio in the 4th house, and my mother and I are are nearly enemies -- of a deep, psychological sort though. Regardless of what we do/say to eachother, there's always an uneasy tension between us. And it doesn't help that she is a Taurus sun (and my complete opposite).

And being that Saturn is usually associated with males (and in this case, the father figure).. I haven't talked to my father in nearly half a year. His ascendant is Scorpio too!

My shadow definitely has lots to do with my family (as signified by the 4th house).. I've always wondered why I always feel such tension!!

When I was younger, I used to tell my parents that they adopted me and I really came from *pointing to the sky* the stars!

Needless to say, they didn't take well to that statement.. but I still stand firm on it.. =)