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Topic: composite - ur views pls
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MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 247 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 19, 2009 02:40 PM
That was me, funny face I'm not going to say the aspect killed us - rather, we let it kill us. I think the aspects just point to potential good and bad. What you do with it is up to you (both) in the end. Mars square Sun and Mercury - a lot of aggression and fighting. A LOT. Verbal abuse, and very nearly physical as well. I don't believe the aspects predict what happens - I feel they just tell us what to be careful of (especially when they are that tight). It just meant that we had aggressive energy which needed a form of release, and also better communication skills. I was an advocate for both and he wasn't. So I made my decision and left. Mars didn't have many nice aspects in our composite, so there was no other place to 'release' or channel that energy unfortunately (Mars square Venus by a large degree...hot at first, and then it just wasn't cooperating with Venus at all). Plus Mars can just be a troublemaker. But the nice thing is that Mars is obvious. You know when he's being a jerk. It's not like Neptune, or Saturn, insidiously deceptive at times, or hiding beneath the guise of 'security' and stability. With a different couple, they might be more cooperative with one another. Or their Mars can have another positive channel in the chart, thereby providing a good channel for release. The charts are unique because each couple is, so I wouldn't be so fast to discount a relationship because of some bad Mars aspects - I'd just be aware and hope the other person is as well. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 19, 2009 02:41 PM
composite with 70% orb thanks AG IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 247 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 19, 2009 02:43 PM
AG and Lara, I had Neptune square Mars in my composite tightly. It made for a level of delusion - not really deliberate, or maybe it was, hard to say. But I felt it had to do with expectations about certain ideals, and anger about not having those ideals met. I think the term 'reality check' applied strongly. It's not insurmountable though. I think the planets need a positive outlet to work, if that makes any sense.Lara, Mars makes a nice sextile to Saturn. Might stabilize things somewhat and balance out the energy. But I don't like Saturn's square on the ascendant. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 229 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 19, 2009 03:05 PM
In this case it's Neptune in the 5th, which suggests "creativity" to me, squaring Mars and Venus in the 8th, which would seem to represent "sex". I don't know how those combine stressfully. Maybe I'm looking at it in reverse, though. Neptune in Scorpio in the 5th could be fairly sexually dreamy. Maybe Mars and Venus being in their separate signs squaring Neptune are disrupting the sensual Neptunian dating dream going on in the 5th. Wait...I just noticed the house system changed from the first chart to the last one. Neptune's in the 4th in this last one. Anyway, if Neptune is in the 5th, it could signal an issue altogether as this would be the primary influence on the relationship's children if the relationship were to have children. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 19, 2009 03:12 PM
i'm VERY neptunian as a person and l always have neptune really emphasised in my relationships. My neptune aspects almost my entire chart!I have 3 kids too and he has none so maybe the issue is that he will have a problem with it? Did l do the 1st chart as equal and this one l just banged out without thinking? This one is placidus... EDIT this one looks like equal actually! IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 19, 2009 03:24 PM
MVM,yes l agree... i'm guessing his AC though cos we don't def know it' cancer/leo cusp so don't pay too much attention to Saturn/AC square - could well be off by a few degrees! The neptune/mars-venus square is interesting hmmm l will try to google and see what comes up. IP: Logged |
emma_duncan Knowflake Posts: 24 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 19, 2009 04:07 PM
hey Laraso i dont know whethers its strange or just mathematical certainity but patterns repeat in compste and davison did you notice in both u have leo ascendant and moon in capricon in sixth house.... and neptune in 5th, starurn in 10th and uranus in 3rd.... were you both born v close together and do u guys have same ascendants? any way, another v useful thing with davison is to comapre individual natal charts with it...and it wil show how each person is attched to and affected by the relationship
by very brief look at davison, i see that this relationship is somehow needed by both of you at a basic psychological level as venus is in second house, maybe both of you feel secure together, however sun conjuct uranus and uranus is ruler of 7th house....so there is some unpredicatbility or uniqueness about relationship
moon in capricon might mean in sixth that both of you try to control this relationship ,....i dont remember if it is close to desc.......(its i think around 10 degrees) jupiter in 4th is v benevolent,,,you two can have a home which is full of warmth and forgiveness (i wrote an earlier review of yr chart but i had misread the house of sun....so i had to edit my reply) IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 247 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 19, 2009 04:13 PM
Go for it, Lara! He seems like he can keep up with you...or at least try to IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 19, 2009 05:07 PM
Interesting Emma.. yes, l think we both have same AC and they are both conjunct.davison planets: SUN conj my uranus and his pluto MOON trine my mars/pluto/uranus and his sq his moon VENUS is conj my jupiter, sq my neptune and opp his sun MARS is sq his pluto SATURN is conj my sun URANUS is sextile his jupiter/neptune NEPTUNE is conjunct my neptune and sq his sun (i don't get how neptune in davison is 26' scorpio when his is 2'58 sag and mine is 25' scorpio) Thats not a midpoint! IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 19, 2009 05:12 PM
quote: Go for it, Lara! He seems like he can keep up with you...or at least try to
well if it doesn't work out, i'm FedEx'ing him to you IP: Logged |
Diandra23 unregistered
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posted January 19, 2009 06:14 PM
Hi Larawhy dont you just try not to analise the charts for a time?At least before the relationship takes its course. Sometimes it is bad for us when we look at astrology before we actually experience a relationship with someone.It can influence us in the wrong way:wether it is for better or worse. One example:i just took the iniciative to look at me and Jonnhy when we were together for some time ( some months after meeting). Glad i did it!imagine i would see right away our sun square mars in sinastry..i would have "run" if i had took the usual interpretation so seriously... i consider us long term and not even a nigher tone of voice had ever happened between us. Think about it with care. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 229 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 19, 2009 06:51 PM
I agree with Diandra's bit of advice. I wouldn't be rushing to look at charts necessarily either. Wouldn't want to bias myself too much.IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 19, 2009 07:40 PM
ok guys i agree.. i'm only looking cos i've been so disappointed by men in the recent past. Thank you so much for all your help, it's appreciated a lot XI just looked at his progressed chart with natal chart and on the day we meet he has progressed venus conjunct exact his natal sun!! woo hoo. plus progressed mars on his natal venus. So lets see. IP: Logged |
plutoprincess Knowflake Posts: 3 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 19, 2009 10:21 PM
Ouch! these Pluto oppositions must be really intense!!!! Good luck with them !! But the Mars-Venus conjunction is intense too It surely seems like a "fiery" story to me...IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 20, 2009 02:37 AM
Yeah well what people don't realise is that I have a fiery chart and I love intensity!I could not be happy with a chocolate box composite as it would give me no challenge or push for growth! When it's easy I get lazy and then I get bored! IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 20, 2009 06:56 AM
How about these in davison -osiris/isis conjunct (1) siva/kaali sextile (0) psyche/karma/DC conjunct (2) valentine/amor conjunct (3) juno/mars conjunct (2) IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 20, 2009 08:59 AM
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funnyface unregistered
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posted January 20, 2009 09:31 AM
Hi MVM, Sorry about the gaffe. I know of a couple who are just starting out testing their relationship and their composite has the Mars sqaures you mentioned. I am worried if they are going to get hurt and they are both dear to me. Can you take a look at the composite and please tell me if there are any redeeming features there? Thanks. http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/richcal03/untitled-2-1.jpg IP: Logged |
funnyface unregistered
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posted January 21, 2009 11:25 AM
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 318 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 21, 2009 01:09 PM
i've mentioned this before, but...charles carter (or alan leo?) talks about mars square neptune as the best combination of these two planets. though he was talking about natal charts, the principle still remains that the tension between these two helps keep the "owner's" feet on the ground where he can actually make use of the energies, whereas trines and conjunctions and oppositions tend to waste the creativity potential for their various reasons...mozart had neptune square mars(so do i!)... IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 21, 2009 01:12 PM
This is what Astro says about these aspects:Venus Square Neptune The square of composite Venus and Neptune requires that the two of you be quite wary about the true nature of this relationship. If you are not careful and unless you evaluate yourselves thoroughly, you could experience great disappointment. With this particular Venus-Neptune aspect, you may believe that you have met the ideal of your life, especially in a romantic sense. The love of your life is here! Neptune is the planet both of illusion and the ideal, and under its influence you are likely to find it very difficult to tell which is which. You must ascertain whether each of you is for real; that is, are you relating to each other or to some idealized fantasy? Is the spiritual element that you see in each other and in your relationship real or not? You must examine this situation very closely, for you cannot afford to live in a fool's paradise. Your relationship may be either very good or very unreal, and you must find out which it is. Mars Square Neptune
Mars square Neptune in the composite chart can be quite difficult. It indicates that your intentions and the way you interact weaken each other's effectiveness. Usually one of you acts in such a way as to confuse or delude the other, but also you may have a negative reinforcing effect on each other. The only way to deal with this aspect is to stop playing ego games, which is easier said than done, because such games are usually played out unconsciously. Neither parnter is aware of what is going on. In an extreme case you may be consciously deceitful toward each other. In a marriage, this might be done through infidelity; in a friendship, it might be actions that intentionally go against your friend's interests. The only defense is to be completely honest with each other and at the same time reasonably gentle in your honesty.
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 21, 2009 01:18 PM
Katatonic, that is really interesting what you say about neptune/mars!I always thought of neptune as spiritual rather than deceptive. Maybe neptune is deceptive until one is enlightened to it and then it becomes a spiritual aspect? Mozart was spiritual. You seem spiritual so maybe the potential for deception is there but if used positively it can be deeply spiritual. Mars is all about action anyway... IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 247 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 21, 2009 01:20 PM
Hi Funnyface - Wow, that's a tense Mars in their composite I would say the relationship is intense probably...lots of Scorpio ... O_O Can't imagine them as neutral about each other in any way. Is the Mars stuff 4 degrees in their chart? I wouldn't worry about it too much. Only if it's like 1-2 degrees would it maybe be someone to keep an eye on. It looks like a strong relationship though, nothing absolutely terrible. And it looks like they feel passionately about each other, so that's good IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 21, 2009 01:24 PM
so MVM, are you saying that my composite mars/neptune doesn't even count? being 5 degs? The rest seems quite strong... IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 247 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 21, 2009 01:31 PM
I dunno Lara..I don't want to give a solid yes or no on that because you'd have to play it out to see, and I've only just kind of noticed the tighter aspects as more evident for me. So I don't think it's foolproof to say only count those 1-2 degree aspects, but I would probably bet that they are more obvious. IP: Logged |