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Topic: Best/worst aspects for synastry
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Astra Knowflake Posts: 217 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 24, 2009 05:12 AM
quote: starts off heavenly and turns into hell!
Isn't that the definition of most marriages these days? IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 4014 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 24, 2009 05:33 AM
For those whom go into it expecting to complete themselves, yeah pretty much l guess IP: Logged |
yellowmoon Knowflake Posts: 0 From: Zagreb, Croatia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 24, 2009 10:03 AM
But what if we have both Mars and Venus in hard aspects to someones Saturn, like my Saturn is squaring his Mars and his Saturn is squaring my Venus and opposes my Moon, conjuncting my ASC ? lolIt doesn't feel like hell, although he can be sometimes really controlling but I know how to stop that :-D My natal chart is very much influeneced by Uranus, so I need a lot of freedom and my affection and emotions change frequently but in this relationship I'm very calm and content -at least for now lol IP: Logged |
winky_winky unregistered
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posted January 24, 2009 10:57 AM
I also had the Venus-Chiron conjunction with someone, me being the Chiron, and wow did it hurt...I must say saturn was squaring both mars and venus, so this probably didnt help much either... Ok, I donīt have any saturn squares in my natal, but I think what I hated most about this relationship were the pluto squares. Or, MYVIRGOMASK, did u also feel this venus-chiron conjunction as obessessive? It hurt a lot, me being the Chiron,... IP: Logged |
Empty_Set unregistered
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posted January 24, 2009 10:58 AM
I want to say that mercury square mercury is the worst aspect but I can't because it really forced me to stop being sloppy verbally(aries mercury). In addition to that we had mars square mars. That did not help the mercury square. The two together really made for huge misunderstandings of who we 'appeared' to be. The aspect that hurt the most was his saturn square my mercury. Continuing this complication we had venus sextile mercury both ways. Also Saturn conjunct/sextile venus dw. All of that and our moons are conjunct (6/7th houses) exactly. I have never felt anything like it. The moons don't aspect either mercury or venus. My saturn and mars trined his moon though. I liked the moon aspect, it made him feel like home. I dearly miss this person as we are recently parted. I have never known much about chiron. Is the sextile to venus counted for anything? Who is more affected in chiron aspects? Also, I have read that south node conjunctions are bad, but what if the planet is saturn? Just wondering. IP: Logged |
winky_winky unregistered
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posted January 24, 2009 11:12 AM
Empty_set, I think conjunctions of saturn to either node are not very good, i think I read in cafeastrology.com that these aspects donīt let a romantic relationship get off the ground properly...As for Chiron goes, I think it is more the Chiron person that feels the pain. Even though in our synastry I was putting my mars venus conj on top of his moon apex of his t-square and his pluto was very squared, I nearly died of obssession, really, I was in another world most of the time, it affected my job, my life, my sleep... very troubling. Still miss him, though... I blame those saturn squares for this last bit, they make it difficult to let go... IP: Logged |
yellowmoon Knowflake Posts: 0 From: Zagreb, Croatia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 24, 2009 12:03 PM
@ winky winkyAbout those Chiron connections - any experiences with Sun square Chiron? How would this affect Chiron person?
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posted January 24, 2009 12:08 PM
Well, my Chiron conjunct Venus was also conjunct his Sun and his Mercury. A bit melancholic maybe, could see thru him and loved him deeply, understood his limitations, yet loved him for what he was, even though knowing that he wasnīt maybe the right 4 me... Painful indeed, I was joyful when I read with the Magi that I had TWO SuperAspects or whatever they are called, because it was BOTH the sun and venus involved in the conjunction... But then I also had Juno trine Saturn, the only Saturn trine involved in all the synastry, and if u take Magiīs word that Juni is the mistress.........Aaaaaargh...I didnīt want to be second place never...IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 789 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 24, 2009 12:23 PM
Winky, quote: I think conjunctions of saturn to either node are not very good, i think I read in cafeastrology.com that these aspects donīt let a romantic relationship get off the ground properly...
Explain this? Wouldn't Saturn/Node connections make the relationship somewhat fated? Even inevitable? Or are they no good because it's karmic? IP: Logged |
leapinglemur14 Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 24, 2009 12:29 PM
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 4014 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 24, 2009 12:35 PM
When l read this thread and all this talk about SQUARES l wonder what Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher think about it all sun sq sun sun sq moon DW sun sq mercury sun sq venus DW sun sq saturn sun sq neptune moon sq venus DW moon sq saturn moon sq neptune mercury sq mercury mercury sq saturn mercury sq neptune venus sq saturn venus sq neptune mars sq uranus pluto sq neptune
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MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 2743 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted January 24, 2009 12:56 PM
Holy something else, Lara...I don't they're thinking much! I dunno, it kinda feels nice to know that you don't need all trines and smoothies to make a relationship work...if it works for them, I'm willing to raise my glass ...Winky...yes, it was obsessive, but that's part of how I love too. So, I can't really tell the difference most of the time...Chiron, Venus, Mars...who knows IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 4014 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 24, 2009 01:00 PM
Insane right, MVM? lolMy mother and stepfather are the same and have been married over 30 years! So square aren't that bad.. and Demi and Ashton certainly look very happy! (no sore throats or black eyes) hehe IP: Logged |
winky_winky unregistered
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posted January 24, 2009 01:04 PM
lara! Yuhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii! Yes those two have a lot going on in their synastry, must be in bed all the time, these squares looks sooo hot and there must be so much intensity surely it is difficult to keep their hands off each other... Well, on Saturn conjuncting either Node I read once on cafeastrology that it is not supposed to work, but then again you know how those things are, it depends on the rest of the chart,etc... But if you take into account that Saturn stops and restructures things and that everything it touches somehow renders it more "stiff" I thought that maybe it was too much for the nnode person to take this "enlightenment", or that saturn was blocking the nnodeīs person growth... Surely, karmic, but as lara said once, karmic doesnt always mean enjoyable, that much i have experienced.... IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 4014 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 24, 2009 01:04 PM
venus/chiron heartbreak with saturn involved is always worse for the CHIRON person cos saturn is controlling the show.IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 2743 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted January 24, 2009 01:10 PM
Lara, do you think orbs make a difference with the Saturn/Chiron square? Like if it's 7 degrees or something, it's not as bad as if it's like 3 or less? I did have this aspect with my ex-husband in Synastry btw ... I was the Saturn person But it was a 9-degree square...that's pretty wide. EDIT: Heck, I wasn't really controlling anything though, that's why I ended up leaving LOLIP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 2743 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted January 24, 2009 01:16 PM
Lara, my mother and my stepfather also have a really hairy synastry. Saturn squares and Pluto squares to personal planets galore...but they've been together for 25 years and are really happy I think, still in love and affectionate, etc...but they're kinda boring and don't really go anywhere, so I'm always surprised they not strangling each other LOL
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 4014 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 24, 2009 01:24 PM
OMG MVM, my mum is the same!! Never go anywhere and l can't understand how they haven't killed each other haha funny isn't it.. just shows how personal astrology charts are As for chiron, 3 or less is all magi look at although l tend to extend that to 5 degrees Winky!!!!!!!!!!! hihihihihihi How are you? Missed you on here girl! Yes, l think this is why they are never photographed in public anymore - always in bed! Yup.. karmic isn't always good
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posted January 24, 2009 01:42 PM
Lara, buaaaaaaaaaa, not to go off-topic here but have been mourning ariesīcrush end of all ends......You donīt know how bad it was, these pluto squares were bad enough, but it looks as if transitting pluto was opposing my venus mars conjunction and I went absolutely berserk and did all kind of horrible things to him and his house. Had major jealousy attack and decided I had had it .... Anyway, back to normal I suppose... That is, until I forget him cause with Uranus u never know... And composite sun conj saturn, yikes, they are long-lasting... Hope u are keeping well, Lots of Love, Winky IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 4014 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 24, 2009 02:21 PM
oh no, i'm sorry to hear that Winky That is rough and l know how much you liked him. Sending you hugs - l know you will meet someone very soon who is right for you. I feel you are close xxxxIP: Logged |
emma_duncan Knowflake Posts: 123 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 24, 2009 02:50 PM
about the orbs...i read somewhere and i agree that with time wider orbs also kick injust like when u meet someone u notice v prominent things but with time u start noticing minor details as well and depending on how things r gng sometimes minor things break or make the deal i read that 1 deg orb for e yr, thus 7 deg orbs might kick in after 7 yrs...if the rship is strong maybe that effect will not matter but if its already dwindling that might do the final kill IP: Logged |