posted October 31, 2014 09:30 AM            

Perfect to me. Makes me feel like I'm cocooned in love.

Notices everything about me. Analytical, observant and likes to pick my mind. But it never feels imposing or demanding.

posted October 31, 2014 10:49 AM              

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Originally posted by starmoon:
my bro has venus conjunct mars in virgo. all i know is he goes on a lot of first dates because no one measures up to whatever standards he has. her hair wasn't combed right. she was dressed weird. she hugged me too hard. really bizarre, picky stuff. he complains about being single but looks at very small things that wouldn't bother others. he is exceptionally nice to women, very much a gentleman, rather shy/reserved, and a really strict parent. but way too picky in love/romance.

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posted October 31, 2014 12:57 PM            

Dated one with Venus/Mars in Virgo conjunct and slept with another.

The one I dated had an aversion towards sexual intimacy, kissing and touching. I suspected that he was a repressed person. It embarrassed him greatly when I initiated sex.

The other is a fitness freak with a high sex drive.But he has a tendency of falling for/picking people whom I believe don't suit him.

The problem I had with him is that he had mad skills in bed WOW. But was very emotionally distant-at the same time. It was very frustrating!

He also has a strange fetish for cleaners/general workers or the help.
People who are general workers/labourers in society.

posted October 31, 2014 04:21 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:

Your brother is hilarious! My best friend is exaaaaactly like that but she only has Venus in Virgo and yes, she is as picky as they come. She gets turned off by the silliest, weirdest things. She was telling me how she got turned off by a mutual friend, who she was seeing at the time, because the wind blew on his hair and made it part weirdly and he didn't look cute, so she got turned off. LMAO. Maybe we should introduce them? Hahaha!!!

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posted November 02, 2014 02:24 PM            

I would NEVER reject someone over something as ridiculously neurotic as how they chew their food or how the wind parts their hair when it blows. I mean, seriously? I can't even process that. What I think these Virgo type people are expressing is the fact that this energy does notice all of the little things about people. But, this trait can be expressed in many different ways. Those folks earlier mentioned, I feel, have got some repressed/unresolved issues over perfection that they need to work out.

I'm quite different. I've actually grown into a Virgo-heavy person (my Mercury's also in Virgo, conjunct Mars) who's much more laidback than the typical profiles suggest. I've truly let go of the idea of perfection and I think this results in HUGE changes for a Virgo-influenced person. This is a Mutable sign, after all, and has the potential to be highly adaptable and easygoing.

My Virgo planets are also in the 8th House, so this energy, for me, is much more passionate and, yes, even "emotional." I would say that I'm very selective, still. That's always going to be a core trait of mine. But, I'm selective over the deeper stuff, like the person's character and their personality. I'm always aware of people's flaws but I know how to balance that out, now, with an awareness of whether or not those flaws are acceptable or unhealthy. I definitely don't think ALL flaws are acceptable. That's an unhealthy idea because some flaws are just the expression of a toxic, negative personality. I wouldn't try and change a person like this, if they're not asking for it, but I certainly wouldn't stick around. Yet, some flaws, in the big-picture scheme, are minor and outweighed by a person's pros. So, this is the way that my Virgo Venus analyzes relationships.

I do notice little things about people's appearance or habits. But, I've grown to find these little things attractive, at times, like the way someone talks or certain physical features of theirs. I admit that I do pay attention to things like how someone's fingers look. I always have but, again, I can't imagine saying "I won't date this person" because of something that small. I've just come to realize that it's those weird little things that make people unique.

Basically, when Virgo energy stops being uptight and perfectionistic, I think it's wonderful. I'm a highly helpful person and like to be a very dependable presence in people's lives. I give good advice and know how to do it without being judgmental and critical. I've mastered the art of not criticizing now. I only do it when I'm ****** , which is the Virgo Mars side taking over.

And I'm also a very sensual person and as I've become an adult, I have virtually no hangs-up about sex or how my body looks or anything else. Again, there's no such thing as perfect, so who cares? I don't overly flaunt my sensuality but I'm very comfortable and at ease with it and there's not much that I'm not open to try, if you know what I mean.

posted November 02, 2014 02:48 PM              

I have Mars conjunct mercury in Virgo. Venus in Virgo (9 degrees from mercury. Extremely loose conjunction?)
Mine are in 12th.

Yes, I'm very very observant. I will NOTICE little "flaws", but that doesn't mean that I won't accept them. I have my own and several of them.

posted November 02, 2014 03:09 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Right on! ^^^

I have Mars conjunct mercury in Virgo. Venus in Virgo (9 degrees from mercury. Extremely loose conjunction?)
Mine are in 12th.

Yes, I'm very very observant. I will NOTICE little "flaws", but that doesn't mean that I won't accept them. I have my own and several of them.

Anyway, I fully agree.
I was also going to point out that it's mutable. people often misunderstand Virgo

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Thanks! Yeah, I agree. It can often be a misunderstood energy. Some people take the Virgin symbol way too literally, when it's usually quite the opposite.

How do you experience the Mercury-Mars conjunction in Virgo, by the way, DeepFreeze? My way of thinking and talking can get really fired-up. My sense of humor's very quick and I always insist on thinking for myself and having an independent (Mars) mind (Mercury), no matter what.

posted November 02, 2014 03:36 PM            

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
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Basically, when Virgo energy stops being uptight and perfectionistic, I think it's wonderful. I'm a highly helpful person and like to be a very dependable presence in people's lives. I give good advice and know how to do it without being judgmental and critical. I've mastered the art of not criticizing now. I only do it when I'm ****** , which is the Virgo Mars side taking over.

And I'm also a very sensual person and as I've become an adult, I have virtually no hangs-up about sex or how my body looks or anything else. Again, there's no such thing as perfect, so who cares? I don't overly flaunt my sensuality but I'm very comfortable and at ease with it and there's not much that I'm not open to try, if you know what I mean.

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posted November 02, 2014 03:40 PM              

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:

I would NEVER reject someone over something as ridiculously neurotic as how they chew their food or how the wind parts their hair when it blows. I mean, seriously? I can't even process that. What I think these Virgo type people are expressing is the fact that this energy does notice all of the little things about people. But, this trait can be expressed in many different ways. Those folks earlier mentioned, I feel, have got some repressed/unresolved issues over perfection that they need to work out.

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posted November 02, 2014 03:46 PM              

Ami says mars/merc never lies. I don't know if I'd take that literally, but I guess partly true.
I don't lie about my feelings, but that's maybe more to do with moon.

One thing that I have noticed is sometimes I say things, either in anger or simply just to state something and I am virtually clueless about how it impacts the other people. I will hurt others unintentionally, OR, hurt them much worse than I thought I would.

Sometimes people get defensive or annoyed and I don't understand why.

posted November 02, 2014 03:51 PM              

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:

I want to know everything and I want to know why. I will not stop until I get answers and I notice EVERYTHING.

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posted November 02, 2014 03:54 PM              

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Just for jokes, the latest thing I heard is that she's getting really turned off by this guy she likes because she noticed that the hair on the nape of his neck that she calls "the swirly part" is kind of balding and she can't help but notice it every time she sees it!!! WTF?!?!! I can't believe her....... That is about the most trivial, strangest thing ever.

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posted November 02, 2014 05:02 PM              

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
My Virgo SUN friend will not date women with short hair.
He told an ex that he'd break up with her if she cut it short and he was absolutely serious.

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posted November 03, 2014 12:27 PM            

DeepFreeze,
I definitely relate to the unintentionally rubbing people the wrong way thing. That was a big problem when I was younger but, now, I'd like to think I've mastered that, to some extent. People mostly find what I say now funny and honest instead of offensive. Like I said before, I only give opinions on people's choices or matters if they ask for it, so maybe that helps.

But, I'm still very frank and straightforward in my communications. Mercury conjunct Mars just doesn't like any pretense and all of that formality and politeness. It's not that I'm rude because I don't think I am. But, I just hate things like people asking "How are you?" when they don't really care. I hate tiptoeing around subjects. I say what I want to say with no frills. I'm just a blunt person, at the end of the day.

Ultimately, Mercury conjunct Mars asserts themselves and gets their energy through talking. We are people who have no fear around speaking our minds, so we can just be more forceful than we realize. Even now, though I'm more aware of what I'm saying, it can still pack quite a punch, without me even intending for it to. But, I've sort of accepted this about myself. I've learned to not care too much about how people receive it. As long as I know the intent behind my words aren't mean-spirited or malicious, I don't worry about really censoring myself.

posted November 03, 2014 12:51 PM              

I think that's exactly right, accepting that I communicate the way I am most natural at and not be concerned as much with how it's received. At least, only with people such as my wife, that's very important. But she understands this manner of my communication better than others.

I've let it bother me on LL, because that's all we do here is communicate. To this day some do not understand what I've meant with some words, what my motivation for saying some things are, etc. I just have to let that go. I need to learn that even more.

posted November 03, 2014 04:18 PM            

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Selenite,
I'm like that, too, now. Though I don't like to think of it as dressing unflattering. Just not trying to perfect myself and how I look. I was proud of myself the day that I could walk out of the house with reasonably wrinkled clothes on, haha.

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Nice I can't do that. The wrinkles yell at me too loudly. But I will dress actually unflatteringly now, not in the sense of showcasing a muffin top, but more like oversized shirts / out of style clothes / no makeup / messy hair / embracing the bags under the eyes. Lol.

posted November 04, 2014 11:24 AM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
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Do you get extremely irritated if people try to read between the lines?
I soooooooo hate that.
Most often there's no lines to read between. I say it as I mean it, no more, no less.

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I more so get irritated when that's how people communicate. I'm super-intuitive so I can read between the lines and pick up on the subtext easily. But, I just think that's a very passive-aggressive form of communicating with another person. So, I hate when people just don't say what they feel AND get angry at you or disappointed with you in the situation, when they could've just said what they were really thinking or feeling and made the whole situation easier on both of us.

posted November 04, 2014 12:00 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Right on! ^^^

I have Mars conjunct mercury in Virgo. Venus in Virgo (9 degrees from mercury. Extremely loose conjunction?)
Mine are in 12th.

Yes, I'm very very observant. I will NOTICE little "flaws", but that doesn't mean that I won't accept them. I have my own and several of them.

Anyway, I fully agree.
I was also going to point out that it's mutable. people often misunderstand Virgo

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posted November 04, 2014 01:01 PM              

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Originally posted by starmoon:
are you saying you will overlook flaws in a romantic context? because it is possible for virgos to release that grasp for perfection sans intimacy, but if their intimate partner is flawed (by their definition) that could be a problem, no?

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Yes.

Well I mean, in the eyes of Virgo (myself my only true reference for this), NO ONE can possibly ever be perfect. I could spot a flaw in almost anything no matter how perfect others think it is.
But yes, I've learned to accept a LOT more things than I used to.

I suppose that there's SO many things that over time, those things had to be prioritized.
Things that I HAVE to have in someone else.
Things that I CANNOT have in someone else.
Things that would be nice to have or not have in someone else, but are by no means a dealbreaker.
It's a long road for some virgo / virgo influenced people. Part of it is accepting my own flaws. My own attractiveness. My own strengths and weaknesses. Acknowledging that some things I just wasn't born with the gifts for it.
Then putting it all together and realizing, accepting... that everyone else has their own set of strengths, weaknesses, and "flaws".

It was about finding that middle ground. What should be acceptable. Learning to love and appreciate flaws in myself, also helped with doing the same with others.

Hope I just made sense. I go off sometimes and get lost in my words.