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Topic: obscure & heavy topic but just curious, discretion advised if easily offended?
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darkdreamer
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posted February 01, 2009 05:59 AM
IQ,I never was so glad before, that an aspect was too wide orbed.  However, just realized that retograde Pecker on 25.8 Gemini conjuncts retograde Nessus on 28.2 Gemini in 7th house opposing Sun on 25.9 Sagittarius.
That doesn`t look encouraging. But I must say, that probably there has to be some research to see if Pecker REALLY symbolizes that. Looking at one chart there could still be another placement responsible for this.
I guess it would make sense to look at charts of rapists and see if their Pecker makes exact aspects, as well as looking at charts of people, who neither have been rapists nor have been raped, and see how their Pecker is located. No, my Nessus is not connected to Moon, Neptune or Hypnos. Even though Draco Nessus trines my moon.
I once had a very violent horrible dream or vision when I was younger, and many years later found out that this event really had taken place, which shocked me even more. BTW I can`t do such a research, as I am too easily impressed by these things. They always leave their imprint somewhere in my mind or subconsciousness and I really want to focus on the sunny side more. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
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posted February 01, 2009 07:26 AM
Tigerlily,thank you for all this information. That is AMAZING. IP: Logged |
lunarxtc
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posted February 01, 2009 08:47 AM
ok, this is for darkdreamer and iq cos your both so smart and i like hearing you guys have to say...what about indicators in a natal chart of childhood sexual abuse inc the abuser, prostitution/escorting, stripping, marital abuse/domination, organised crime/mafia? they'd be interesting to know too :P ------------------
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posted February 01, 2009 10:36 AM
Tigerlily:
Thank you so much for you post on chiron. It is the best info on it that I've read yet. Completely on the mark. I have it in my 7th conj saturn, and I have virgo asc/ capricorn sun. So while it is obviously important in my chart I've not been able to understand what it's doing in my chart, until now.
Thanks for taking the time to type that all out. I'm copying it to a file so I can keep it.IP: Logged |
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posted February 01, 2009 01:45 PM
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lunarxtc
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posted February 01, 2009 11:02 PM
Lol sorry to burst your bubble but with the recession and the economy and stock market crash, there's not much point getting into the industry cos it'll barely pay for your petrol for the week.You know how an economy is going by how much a stripper is making a night, now they're lucky if they make 200 on a friday or saturday night, i used to take home 900 on those nights. No one has any spare money to play around with. I got out because of teh recession  ------------------
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leapinglemur14
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posted February 01, 2009 11:46 PM
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lunarxtc
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posted February 02, 2009 12:18 AM
Oh yeah, i forgot in america they use gas, not petrol trust me, to spread your legs right in front of someone's face and to put up with the soul destroying sexual abuse and harrassment, to lose your own personal power for 200 bucks a night is NOT worth it. You feel so demoralised and not even worth being human. For 1000, u can give up for dignity and sense of self worth and operate on only your ego but for 200?? No way, its like working a normal job for $2.50 per hour, practically slave labour. And dont forget you HAVE to give the club a % of your earnings every night, whether or not you make money. And the clubs dont give a **** about the girls, as long as they're keeping the customers at the bar, clicking money over and over with drinks. Seriously, your treated and viewed as cattle. And men dont want to pay a girl 50 bucks to get naked if they cant touch or do anything when they can spend 50 on broadband to see much much worse and explicit. Its not worth it, sweetie and i'm saying this from the bottom of my heart. Youd make more in tips working behind a bar. AND you get a wage.
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posted February 02, 2009 12:27 AM
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Iqhunk
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posted February 02, 2009 02:56 AM
Off topic, but...
Ladies, emails please to my ids on the links, have serious notes on abundance to send.
These are fool proof, tried and tested since 2005 [my personal financial rock bottom.]
You must learn to shift from poverty consciousness to wealth consciousness. It is not psycho-babble, it does work.
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Iqhunk
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posted February 02, 2009 05:33 AM
Deadliest Aspects to indicate Abuse Perpetrators
=======================================1. Dejanira conj Karma
with Lucifer or Nessus squaring Dejanira 2. Lust conjunct Retrograde Saturn 3. Nessus afflicted by Saturn/Pluto 4. Nessus conj Lucifer Retro sq Lust 5. Nessus, Lucifer, Pluto in a T-Square, all retrograde make matters worse. 6. All 5 above get demonically enhanced if the native is born on a new Moon night. ------------------
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darkdreamer
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posted February 02, 2009 05:46 AM
Glad to report I don`t have those.
Even though my Lucifer is not a real joy either.
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posted February 02, 2009 08:32 AM
yeah for sure, thanks for the iq how do i send my email to you privately?IP: Logged |
Xena
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posted February 02, 2009 01:08 PM
I have Dejanira on the Moon and Venus in Pisces. As a woman, I seem to attract violent, or potentially violent, men - to the extent where I can't really have a long-lasting relationship any more. At the slightest argument I break off the relationship because I can't tolerate the slightest amount of unpleasantness any more, whether physical or mental. I have this strong urge to protect myself...whilst at the same time being assertive (Aries Sun). IP: Logged |
emma_duncan
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posted February 02, 2009 01:53 PM
i read some where that pluto is cinjuct MC in rape victims natal charts....ant thoughts on this?
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lalalinda
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posted February 02, 2009 02:13 PM
Hello and Welcome to LL lunarxtc  (is anyone looking at Lilith?
this is so up her alley) IP: Logged |
Quinnie
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posted February 02, 2009 07:45 PM
 IQ I'm ashamed to say that I have Nessus conjunct Lucifer (wide orb) square sun/pluto/dejanira/Karma Nessus squares Sun/pluto
Lucifer squares dejanira/Karma. Whats does that mean? I am not an abuse perpetrator. Can it be related more to past lives? IP: Logged |
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posted February 03, 2009 03:27 AM
Dear Quinnie,
Those aspects are for potential MALE abusers!
If you have these as a female, it could mean
1. You will be in a position to capture or help investigate abusers
2. You will be able to help abuse victims come out of trauma
3. You may have suffered abuse in past lives.Please note, abuse need not be just physical. A film producer who create shows with violence and gore, filling the minds of inncoent viewers with macabre scenes, is just as much an abuser. Hi Lunar,
My id is tsaied@rediffmail.com Yes, Lilith will be an indicator but not for abuse, more for voluntary sex trade or "energy extraction" from dumb males. Xena, your Dejanira conj Moon's need for protection could also be past life related where abuse could have been suffered. Or maybe your mother or someone in the maternal line suffered abuse and this is in the genetic memory. I would look at Asteroid DNA for this too but that gets very complex.
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posted February 03, 2009 09:31 AM
Well that makes ALOT of sense to me considering what I'm studying at. It's not been my own personal experience but my friends have experienced the most disgusting type of abuse which I had thought perhaps had been directly related to a past life because my empathy was so strong.
Lilith is thrown into the mix too, so should I aim to direct my energies to trauma victims?
One of the girls at my class is already a rape crisis volunteer counsellor and is now studying for the relevant qualifications so maybe this is a route I could go down?Once again Iq amazing information!
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