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darkdreamer
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posted February 02, 2009 05:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Not for a first analysis. But in a second one definitely.

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posted February 02, 2009 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I have 2 conjunctions and a trine of pluto/perso in synastry/composite/davison... l guess that would count as my strongest pairing then.

I also have strong osiris/isis as the sextile is exact in composite and the trine in synastry is exact and the conjunct in davison is exact!

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darkdreamer
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posted February 02, 2009 06:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message
In a second step, I`d also look for those mentioned aspects to Sun, Moon, ASC, NN and Karma.

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darkdreamer
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posted February 02, 2009 06:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

I`d think your Isis / Osiris is stronger, as the trine of Pluto-Proserpina is pretty wide, and there is only a parallel.
But Pluto / Prosperina is a theme for you through the conjunction in Davison.

Yet, Isis and Osiris looks stronger to me.

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darkdreamer
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posted February 02, 2009 06:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Diandra,

could you yet post the composite and Davison of your comparision with John?

still, it`s obvous that Pluto-Proserpina is very strong in your synastry.

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posted February 02, 2009 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Where is the second step? On another thread or on this one?

I'm snowed in and bored

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darkdreamer
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posted February 02, 2009 07:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Second step:

check the pairings to Sun, Moon, NN, Karma and ASC. (only tropical and aspects)
focus espcially on conjunctions and oppositions.

A conjunction of Kaali to Sun or Moon would always be a strong theme, I think, especially if it appears in composite / Davison, as it relates directly to the "personality" of the relationship.

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Iqhunk
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posted February 02, 2009 07:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Superbly summarized DD!

Siva "made" Kaali using his "Shakti" or Kundalini Energy who manifests as Parvati to him. Kaali destroyed a Demon but ended up with blood lust herself. She was conquered by Siva with love, I think he took her back into his Kundalini Source.
[Tantra Practitioners worship Kaali]
There are said to be 16 emanations of the Divine Feminine Power including Parvati, Kaali etc.
The whole topic is very complex, every man's Kundalini may manifest to him as a different goddes emanation.
These subjects are beyond the pale of Astrology, maximum we get an idea using Asteroids bearing these powerful name frequencies.

I myself chickened out of raising Kundalini, what would I do if a goddess were around me 24/7? Kundalinic Practice of this sort will also open up all physical earth incarnations in one shot. Why do some supposedly insane people speak fleuntly in a foreign language of some other epoch? They are not possessed, they are just communicating from that reality. I feel Siva sq KAALI in a natal chart may even point to premature kundalini rises, though in synastry it would mean rogue sex magic practices of past lifelines.

Very complex, we are on the tip of the iceberg.

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posted February 02, 2009 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Would you say honestly that what l have is strong enough for me to do the second step please?

At a glance it looks okish but not terribly strong.

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Diandra23
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posted February 02, 2009 09:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message
let me see

still i dont know what aspects to look for in detail..hmm just the direct to the couple´s myth feminine with masculine?or also sun/moon/nn/asc/karma?

Composite

Prosepine cj Pluto 1
Prosepine trine karma 2
Isis cj Moon - so isis also strong theme
Karma cj NN 0
Sun is trine Innanem 1
Prosepina and Juno are trine NN 2
Isis is square the NN 3
NN is sextil ASC 3
Aprhodit is sextil valentine 2

Cupid cj IC 1
Cupid wide cj Jup 5
Psych trine karma 3
Psyche tirne NN 0
Eros cj Sun 0
Parvatti opose sun 1
Kaali square NN 1
Siva squares MARS and Moon 2
Karma kikunks CUPID 1

DAVIDSON

Prosepine is semisextiel PLuto
VENUS is cj APRODITE!2
venus IS CJ INNANEM 4
Inannem is trine ASC 1
Isis is sextil Valentine 0
Valnetine ins square Osiris 2

PARVATTI cj SUn 3
Psych cj IC 1
Karma cj DC and kiron 1
Kaali opose mars 3
Kaali trine valentine2
parvatti sextil karma 2
Cupid trine ASC 2
Psyche trine sun 0
Eros square valentine 0


LATER WILL look at the other pairs DD

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darkdreamer
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posted February 02, 2009 09:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I would always look at the direct pairing ND aspects of the pair to Sun, moon, NN, ASC and Karma.

Even though I use mainly main aspects, I had the idea to look at quindecile and maybe quintile, too.
Not sure about this, though.


Also, note the conjunctions and maybe oppositions, I would be interested to learn about them.

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darkdreamer
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posted February 02, 2009 09:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

Isis, Osiris is definitely strong for you.

You have an exact conjunction AND exact aspects on all levels!

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posted February 02, 2009 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
I would just like to add that the two hottest guys I've dated (like everyone agrees that they're attractive/pretty) both have Adonis conjunct Sun. Highly interesting.

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posted February 02, 2009 10:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Amowls

my bf also has adonis cj Sun

i agree . this aspect makes men very attractive and more masculine than others,eventualy

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posted February 02, 2009 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
It seems to be

Ok so cos i'm now really confused at to what aspects to post l will simply list my OSIRIS/ISIS ones with 2 degrees:

His AMOR conjunct her OSIRIS
Her OSIRIS square his INNANEN/APHRODITE
Her OSIRIS trine his MARS
Her OSIRIS sextile his PROSERPINA
His OSIRIS square her VENUS/MOON/VERTEX
His OSIRIS trine her MARS/ISIS/UNION/PLUTO
His OSIRIS quincunx her APHRODITE
His OSIRIS opposes her VALENTINE
His ISIS square her ZEUS/AMOR/VERTEX
His ISIS trine her JUNO
her ISIS quincunx his VERTEX
her ISIS trine his OSIRIS
her ISIS square his VALENTINE

and composite aspects:
composite ADONIS conjunct NEPTUNE/square PSYCHE/trine SUN

composit SIVA sextile MOON-PLUTO/trine ISIS

composite KAALI conjunct CUPID/sextile KARMA-VALENTINE/trine MARS-OSIRIS/sq APHRODITE/

composite AHPRODITE sq KAALI-CUPID/trine AC/quincunx KARMA

composite VALENTINE sextile KAALI-CUPID-MARS-OSIRIS/square AC/trine KARMA/

composite OSIRIS conjunct VENUS-MARS/sextile VALENTINE/trine KAALI/quincunx AC/opposes KARMA

composite ISIS conjunct NN/opposes PLUTO/trine SIVA/square VERTEX/sextile MOON

composite PERSEPHONE conjunct UNION/trine CUPID

composite PROSERPINA 3 aries conjunct APHRODITE-CHIRON/sextile KAALI/trine AC/quincunx KARMA

DAVISON
persephone trine innanen-juno
prosperpina conjunct pluto-adonis/opposes NN/trine moon
venus trine mars
sun conjunct adonis
adonis square juno
kaali sextile siva-neptune-NN/conjunct psyche
osiris conjunct isis
karma sq valentine/conjunct psyche
valentine sq karma-psyche/sextile juno/conjunct amor
AC opposes karma-psyche

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darkdreamer
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posted February 02, 2009 02:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Sorry, Lara and Diandra, for confusing you.
But I am developing this as I go. And I have been posting from school, and probably been a bit confused myself.

So personally I`d look at:

1) tropical only
2) orbs 2° (we could consider 3° for conjunctions maybe)
3) aspects to use:
conjunction, opposition, trine, square,
sextile and quinkuxn

I am wondering about the quindecile; IQ mentioned in a past thread that this is an obsessive or intense aspect; I have also read that on Noel Ty`s site.
I myself have Venus exactly quindecile Eros and Vertex and Sun quindeciles SN, which makes sense to me.

Also, IQ mentioned that the novile, septile and quintile have a moderate influence in natal. Maybe in synastry, too?
So, maybe exact quindeciles, noviles, septiles and quintiles could be included, too?
At least if they exist as an ADDING to already present aspects.


4) Feminine / masculine pairings to each other like Isis - Osiris (every aspects)

5) those pair-asteroids to Sun, Moon, ASC, (maybe IC), NN and Karma, especially conjunctions.

I`d look especially intensely at the conjunctions of asteroids to the composite`s / DAvison`s Sun, Moon, ASC, IC, NN and Karma


Still confused?

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posted February 02, 2009 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message
SIVA/ PARVATI/ KAALI:


SYNASTRY:
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Her SIVA trine his NN
Her SIVA trine his MARS
Her SIVA square his Neptune
Her KAALI quincunx his MARS
Her KAALI sextile PLUTO
Her KAALI conjunct his NEPTUNE
Her KAALI sextile his KARMA
Her PARVATI oppose his MOON
His KAALI square her VALENTINE
His SIVA oppose her MARS (DW)
His KAALI trine her MARS (DW)
His PARVATI oppose her MARS
His PARVATI square her JUPITER


His PARVATI sextile her UNION
His SIVA sextile her UNION
His KAALI conjunt her UNION
Her SIVA quintile his UNION
Her SIVA sextile his VESTA
Her SIVA square his ISIS
Her KAALI quincunx his VESTA
Her KAALI oppose his ISIS
Her PARVATI square his CERES
His PARVATI quintile her CHIRON


COMPOSITE:
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PARVATI conjunct SIVA
SIVA quincunx MARS
SIVA quintile JUPITER
KAALI quincunx MOON
KAALI conjunct NEPTUNE
PARVATI trine URANUS
PARVATI sextile AMOR
SIVA sextile AMOR

PARVATI trine CERES
KAALI square VERTEX
KAALI quincunx PALLAS
KAALI conjunct PERSEPHONE
SIVA sextile CHIRON
SIVA sextile PROSERPINA

DAVISON:
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PARVATI conjunct SIVA
KAALI quintile SIVA
SIVA quincunx KARMA
PAVARTI quincunx KARMA
KAALI quintile KARMA
KAALI quincunx VENUS
SIVA square MERCURY

SIVA sextile AMOR
PARVATI sextile AMOR
KAALI square VERTEX
KAALI trine LILITH
KAALI quincunx PALLAS
KAALI conjunct PERSEPHONE
PAVARTI trine PSYCHE
PAVARTI oppose JUNO
PAVARTI quintile PALLAS
PAVARTI trine CERES
PAVARTI trine URANUS
SIVA trine URANUS
SIVA trine CERES

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posted February 02, 2009 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message
ISIS/OSIRIS:

SYNASTRY:
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Her OSIRIS conjunct his ISIS
Her ISIS sextile his OSIRIS (DW)

His ISIS sextile her IC
His OSIRIS square her IC

Her ISIS quintile his MOON
Her ISIS conjunct his MARS
Her ISIS square his PLUTO
Her ISIS trine his URANUS
Her ISIS sextile his VESTA

Her OSIRIS oppose his NEPTUNE
Her OSIRIS trine his PLUTO
Her OSIRIS quincunx his NN
Her OSIRIS trine his KARMA

His ISIS conjunct her MERCURY
His ISIS quintile her MARS (DW)
His ISIS oppose her NEPTUNE
His ISIS trine her PLUTO (DW)
His ISIS quincunx her NN
His ISIS conjunct her PALLAS
His ISIS conjunct her VESTA
His ISIS trine her KARMA

His OSIRIS sextile her VENUS
His OSIRIS oppose her URANUS
His OSIRIS quincunx her KARMA (DW)


COMPOSITE:
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OSIRIS quintile ASCENDANT
OSIRIS conjunct SUN
OSIRIS conjunct MERCURY
OSIRIS sextile POF
OSIRIS conjunct VESTA
OSIRIS quintile VALENTINE
OSIRIS quincunx UNION
ISIS oppose UNION
ISIS sextile LILITH


DAVISON:
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ISIS quintile JUNO
ISIS sextile LILITH
ISIS sextile EROS
OSIRIS trine MOON
OSIRIS conjunct VESTA

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posted February 02, 2009 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message
His PLUTO sextile her PERSEPHONE
Her PLUTO quintile his PERSEPHONE

Her ADONIS conjunct his NN
Her ADONIS trine his MARS
Her ADONIS quincunx his ISIS
Her ADONIS quincunx his PROSERPINA
His ADONIS sextile her PLUTO
His ADONIS oppose her PALLAS
His ADONIS quincunx her ISIS (DW)
His ADONIS sextile her KARMA
His ADONIS trine her IC

Her PROSERPINA sextile his MARS
Her PROSERPINA quincunx his NEPTUNE
Her PROSERPINA conjunct his S Node
Her PROSERPINA quintile his POF
Her PROSERPINA conjunct his VESTA
Her PROSERPINA quintile his VALENTINE
Her PROSERPINA quincunx his KARMA
His PROSERPINA quincunx her JUNO
His PROSERPINA trine her PERSEPHONE


Her PERSEPHONE quincunx his MARS
Her PERSEPHONE conjunct his NEPTUNE
Her PERSEPHONE quincunx his VESTA
Her PERSEPHONE oppose his ISIS
Her PERSEPHONE sextile his KARMA
His PERSEPHONE conjunct her UNION
His PERSEPHONE trine her MARS
His PERSEPHONE quincunx her JUPITER
His PERSEPHONE quincunx her POF
His PERSEPHONE quincunx her CERES
His PERSEPHONE square her VALENTINE
His PERSEPHONE quincunx her PSYCHE
His PERSEPHONE quincunx her EROS
His PERSEPHONE quintile her KARMA (DW)

COMPOSITE:
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ADONIS oppose SUN
ADONIS oppose MERCURY
ADONIS trine POF
ADONIS quincunx LILITH
ADONIS oppose VESTA
ADONIS quincunx ISIS
ADONIS oppose OSIRIS
ADONIS quincunx EROS

PROSERPINA square MARS
PROSERPINA square SATURN
PROSERPINA conjunct CHIRON
PROSERPINA trine UNION
PROSERPINA conjunct EROS

PERSEPHONE quincunx MOON
PERSEPHONE conjunct NEPTUNE
PERSEPHONE square VERTEX
PERSEPHONE quincunx PALLAS


DAVISON:
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ADONIS oppose SUN
ADONIS sextile MOON
ADONIS trine SATURN
ADONIS quincunx POF
ADONIS oppose VESTA
ADONIS quincunx ISIS
ADONIS oppose OSIRIS
ADONIS quincunx EROS
ADONIS square ASCENDANT

PROSERPINA square MARS
PROSERPINA square SATURN
PROSERPINA conjunct CHIRON
PROSERPINA sextile POF
PROSERPINA conjunct EROS
PROSERPINA sextile ASCENDANT
PROSERPINA trine UNION

PERSEPHONE quincunx VENUS
PERSEPHONE square VERTEX
PERSEPHONE quincunx PALLAS
PERSEPHONE quimtile KARMA

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posted February 02, 2009 06:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message
what is the difference between prosperine & prosperina???
the pluto-prosphone/prosperine thread, are they looking at prosperina too? confused!

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posted February 02, 2009 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message
Proserpine and Proserpina are variations of the same name and also the Latin form of Persephone, the Greek goddess.

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posted February 03, 2009 08:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message
i looked up at zeus 5731 and ganymed 1036,

"Ganymede was abducted by Zeus from Mount Ida in Phrygia, [...] Zeus saw him and fell in love with him instantly, either sending an eagle or turning himself to an eagle to transport Ganymede to Mount Olympus." wikipedia

this is about gay love. surprisingly, i've got asteroid zeus at 5'05 aqua and the object of my affection has asteroid ganymed at 5'57 gemini.

i didn't take into account his zeus at 13'20 cap sextile my ganymed at 10'00 scorp because the orb is wide, as far as i understood about asteroid.

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Diandra23
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posted February 03, 2009 08:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message
DD

Just saw your message.have replied

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praecipua
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posted February 03, 2009 08:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message
also to the list could be added:
orpheus 3361 & eurydike 75 (german name for eurydice); tragic love story.

if you want to play:

http://www.quia.com/cm/102174.html?AP_rand=147996011

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posted February 03, 2009 09:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message
The question is: How many asteroids can we add without the results getting arbitrary?

Personally I think those pairings which include a god and goddess may be the strongest.

Even though the others would of course be interesting, too.

EDIT:
Psyche has been born a mortal, but became a goddess with her marriage; also her name is the equivalent of "Soul".


Adonis was mortal, too, but I think his mother was a nymph. Anyway, I guess this pairing (Aphrodite and Adonis) would be considerable weaker than the others, as he was no God in Greek.

He was a God in semitic / babylonian mythology though, so his pairing with Inannen is strong.


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