posted February 03, 2009 06:00 PM              

also i remember from ways back that 'air' was a predominant element re that period in europe ( i.e. how astrolgers have talked about it generaly .. e.g. in 1900 .. pluto and neptune were in 'gemini' .. i've yet to follow them thru 1st and 2nd world wars )
and .. i was prompted to look those b'dates up from reading some posts on LL regarding 'taurus' ..
and posts relating to the element 'air' .. in one way or another ..
( water/pluto feature somewhat as well )
and i was curious just how many 'taureans' would feature on that list ..

i'm a taurus sun sign .. but most of my placements sit in air signs ..
and had someone said to me .. when i was 18 tears old ..
" Happy .. your a racist with murderous desires " .. i would have had to agree ..
in fact .. me and a cancerian friend almost joined a terrorist group ..
thankfuly we sat down .. had some coffee .. discussed the issue ..
and figured it was the wrong path to follow from a moral point of view ..

however .. i'm almost certain .. had i been born at the right time ..
( i.e. with the chart i have now .. which is obviously impossible )
and had i been of aryan race qualifications ..
then .. my name could easily have been on that list ..
and 'tea with adolph' could easily have been on the agenda ..
( i.e. i know 'me' quite well )
i can just imagine it .. an interview going something like this ..

" Happy D. how did you justify your genocidal efforts ? "
" Well sir .. i believe in the 'afterlife' .. and that it be a state of continuous bliss for all ..
and I Thought ( air ) that really I was doing those folks a favour ..
humanity will understand in time .. that i was really a saint "
( said with 'airy' rationalising detachment )

odd thing .. it be when t.Saturn makes a hard aspect to my natal Mercury ..
be when that nasty little racist inside can pop up ..
but i quickly tell it where to go in no uncertain terms ..
( probably the gemini influence in me 'rationalising' )
good thing the benign twin wins out all the time these days

posted February 03, 2009 06:38 PM            

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I'm a taurus sun sign .. but most of my placements sit in air signs

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posted February 03, 2009 07:46 PM              

that list is mainly regarding the genocide perpetrators in 1940's europe

the guy recently convicted of the rwandan genocide was a leo sun .
( going by memory .. have not double checked .. but i did post his info at some stage )
be a different scenerio though alltogether ..

i think to understand the racial 'ideology of 30's - 40's europe ..
you have to start in the late 1800's and the 'racial 'ideas and theories' of that time ..
the move forward to the end of world war 1 and the consequences for germany ..
that when the seeds were sown mainly .. the stage was set .. so to speak ..
it's all about 'ideology' in the main .. and 'ideas' of that time ..
and the genocide more or less started with the *idea* .. from medical people ..

" Nazi ““euthanasia”” was quite different in conception and practice from the dictionary definition, old or new. For it was derived, not from humanitarian or compassionate reasoning, but from pseudo-scientific theory and ruthless economic policy"
( ~ http://www.holocaustresearchproject.net/euthan/index.html ~ )

' pseudo-scientific *theory*' .. the element of AIR ..

** This thread whets the appetite for your chart HD.**
i guess the masses will 'ave to hungry :-))
( surely you've seen may chart .. or know where to find the data :-)))

i've no room on the server at mo' ..
my chart's been up enough times .. it's depressed and suffering from a lack of libido :-))
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. "
to partialy quote the poison dwarf ..

posted February 03, 2009 08:01 PM            

(**the Libran shakes her head sadly at that list of *unbalanced* people above.....**)

posted February 03, 2009 08:19 PM              

wouldn't mind seeing a list of the burmese leader's buddys ..
and their birth dates ..

posted February 03, 2009 08:32 PM            

or maybe some soothing celtic fiddle

She's an artist with a flair for traditional music, not only performing on fiddle, but providing vocals too. By infusing vivacity and sheer joy into her love of music, she captivates the listeners with her sound, serenading with Scottish, Irish, English and Russian folk songs. Performing throughout the country at various Renaissance Faires, her music has captivated many audiences and continues to do so.

Me, I 'value' my Ashley McIssac

posted February 03, 2009 08:43 PM            

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( cutzy taurean pic to distract from world domination plans )

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posted February 03, 2009 08:52 PM            

and your 3811 Karma is on the Venus retro degree. April 17

*edit-- Much debate about the Hitler chart and Birth time. Astrodata bank has a 26 Libra rising. I had his data loaded from another thread. *note he was born at Branau Inn Austria. Coordinates for Vienna matches the ASC degree.

Many of the planets in Hitler's chart are debilitated: Saturn in Leo (detriment), Mars in Taurus (detriment), Venus Retrograde, Moon in Capricorn (detriment), Sun Peregrine (without dignity), Mercury Peregrine and [some would say] combust the Sun, Jupiter in Capricorn ( Fall), and Saturn occidental of the sun. A lack of water. Chiron being the only 'modern' body in water, opposing Moon and Jupiter. Outlets in water houses are Neptune + Pluto in 8th, Uranus in 12th- opp- Mercury on the 6h side of descendant placidus.

posted February 04, 2009 12:29 PM              

re ** No Leos? **

someone asked me .. how about the sun in 'cancer'
so went 'n had another look .. first one i came across with birth date is a Leo sun
( i'm starting to notice hard aspects to Lillith in these charts .. although have not looked thru in detail
( will probably do all the charts .. i'm curious to see elements 'n signs re placements other than natal sun

posted February 04, 2009 01:18 PM              

Otto Ohlendor .. born 4th Feburary 1907 ..
Einsatzgruppen Commander

Sun / mercury / chiron conjuct in Aquarius ..
lillith conjunct pluto .. opposite natal venus ..

Educated at a humanistic Gymnasium in Hildesheim
he later studied law at the Universities of Leipzig and Gottingen, graduating in July 1933.
( ~ http://www.holocaustresearchproject.net/einsatz/ohlendorf.html ~ )

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one more for 'Water'

Josef Mengele .. born in Gunzburg, Bavaria on 16 March 1911. .. Sun in Pisces
( ~ http://www.holocaustresearchproject.net/othercamps/mengele.html ~ )

a fair amount of potentialy nasty aspects in his chart ..
( and i include the 'easy' aspects as potentialy nasty in manifestation )

looked thru a few more .. the element of Air keeps appearing ..