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Peri
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posted February 06, 2009 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes but they were really short and not as detailed as yours ... more like fragments...

my karma is in the 12th conj ASC, have no idea what it means...

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posted February 06, 2009 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe my karma in communication house opp almost exact my mercury makes it more detailed for me. hmmm

I think TUT is where i'm at though in this thread. It's conjunct my NN/venus and moon.

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posted February 06, 2009 06:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, this is all interesting, but maybe it`s best to stay on topic (Babylon / Sumerian), so people who read that here, won`t get confused.

But why don`t you start a thread on your own about past lives, Lara and Peri?
I mean, I am sure many people would like to read about them.
I definitely would. And it would also be easier to find in a thread on its own.

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posted February 06, 2009 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry DD

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oneruledbymars
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posted February 06, 2009 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey! Wait for me to catch up!
lol
I had to "step away" lol

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posted February 06, 2009 06:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peri,

no need to be sorry. I get carried away myself often enough.


ORBM,

great, you`re back again.

And never ever step back from those threads, or you will completely lose track, when you return. lol

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posted February 06, 2009 06:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think maybe it`s time to actually interprete our natal connections, what do you think?

Personally I think that
my DNA Conjunct BABEL conjunct BABYLON
trine Sumeria, Urania, Talent and Psyche

might not only point at a past life in ancient Sumerian, but that my interest for astrology and psychology might directly stem from there?
What do you think?

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posted February 06, 2009 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DNA is at 13 Degree Libra:

Conjunct Pluto at 16 Degree Libra
Opposing Osiris at 10 Aries
Square Sirius at 14 Cancer
Square Sphinx at 13 Cancer
Square Semir at 14 Cancer
Square Anubis at 14 Cap
Sextile Disc at 11 Leo
Quincunx Atlantis at 13 Degree Taurus

My family name Asteroid is at 15 Degree Pisces:

Conjunct Isis at 12 Pisces
Aten at 14 Pisces
Opposing NN at 16 Pisces
And Angel at 11 Virgo


My Name Asteroid is at 4 Deg Pisces:

Trine Nefertit at 7 Cancer
Conjunct Giza at 2 Deg Pisces
Conjunct Aura at 7 Deg Pisces

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oneruledbymars
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posted February 06, 2009 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara:
That is amazing that you recall all of that.
You are obviously a very special soul.

I am getting there I am working hard with my Pluto conjunct DNA to recall them.
I notice that my dreams are getting more intense. The other day I had a dream that I was looking at myself sleep and then when I looked in the mirror my face was scaly, and my complexion was like grey, brown, I was like some strange creature. And I looked a litte scarey but I smiled because I loved that creature. And then I went back to my bed. And sat beside myself and then I woke up. I kept dreaming this over and over all night. I guess its My Moon conjunct Neptune kicking in! lol
I am fascinated by this process of Ascension. Souls like you are a marvel to me and a source of inspiration.

DD:
You wrote:
"But I wanted to tell you I am sorry. I didn`t want to come across as arrogant or "preachy". But I guess I can`t get rid of the teacher inside me.

just thought that it makes the most sense to look at those really tight aspects, as only those are unique. But of course anyone can do it their way."

You didnt come off that way at all.
I was just teasin you!


And you wrote:

"And never ever step back from those threads, or you will completely lose track, when you return. lol"

I know right! lol
And I think that definitely points to that.
And I am thankful because I have already learned so much from you.
Actually all you guys are great, you too Peri!

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posted February 07, 2009 01:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Super Thread DD!

Lara, pls create another thread on past life recalls, it will be very useful.
Did you know that you can change the past lifeline using release work? I will describe in that thread.

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Lara
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posted February 07, 2009 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry DD.

DD, What would you make of these aspects in a synastry (the same synastry)

TUT conjunct Nefertiti (and opp moon)
caesar conjunct kleopatra and conjunct sun/nn
kleopatra opp sun/NN/kleopatra

Have l found a caesar past life here?

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darkdreamer
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posted February 07, 2009 05:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, if you have found a Caesar past life, then I share it, too, with at least two guys. lol


Caesar and Kleopatra are both conjunct my Sun.
Theone guy has Caesar conjunct Kleopatra, which exactly trines my Sun-Caesar-Kleopatra.

The other guy has Caesear exactly trine my Sun-Caesar-Kleopatra-

In the case of the first guy we both have natally a conjunction of Merlin-Sekhmet-Reiki. lol

Don`t know what your connections mean. Maybe some seductive potential (Kleopatra= ?

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posted February 07, 2009 07:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ORBM;

I put your name asteroid Darius into my own chart, and it comes up at 2°41 Pisces, exactly conjunct my Family name. lol


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posted February 07, 2009 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD:
And that is conjunct my name Asteroid in my Chart.
This just gets more interesting everyday.
I guess we were trying to tell each other something when we chose this incarnation.
My Vertex is at 5 deg Cancer. What is yours?

Earlier you wrote:
I haven`t been brought up in a very religious household, but I remember that I have been reading the bible quite often (on my own accord, noone ever forced me), and those stories, also the one about Nebukadnezar, I read again and again. And one of the stories that captured my imagination most beside the the hanging gardens and the tower, was the story about the prophet Jona and Ninive.

I also was fascinated by Solomo and the queen of Sheba. Actually once a girl, who used to tease me in real nasty ways (and I had let her for three years without even talking back), shouted at me: "You are not the queen of Sheba." And I -maybe 9 years old- told her "But once I was." and then slapped her hard across her face, which left her utterly shocked, and me, too, actually.
But from that moment on she didn`t try to cross me openly anymore.
The funny thing is that Sheba actually conjuncts my Sun on the GC!

You made me think of that, when you told me about your connection to Amytis. "


Its interesting that the Hanging Gardens in Babylon were often confused with the Hanging Gardens in Nineveh.
I always was fascinated by Nineveh and the story of how they changed there ways and God did not destroy them. There is something there in that connection. I am going to do more research on that civilization and see what comes up.
And don't worry I will never question your status concerning the Queen of Sheba status.
lol
Thats amazing that it is conjunct your Sun. I have not found any asteroid yet that is conjunct my Sun. Lots of trines and sextile, squares and oppositions. But not conjunct.

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posted February 07, 2009 09:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ORBM;

"This just gets more interesting everyday.
I guess we were trying to tell each other something when we chose this incarnation."
I`m sure we did.
What message are we bringing each other?

"My Vertex is at 5 deg Cancer. What is yours?"
My Vertex is at 21 Cancer. And my Venus is 6 Capricorn!!!
If you want to check my name iny our chart, the number is 842.

"I have not found any asteroid yet that is conjunct my Sun. Lots of trines and sextile, squares and oppositions. But not conjunct."
That is interesting. In my case these asteroids are like swarming around my Sun within 2° mostly.

For example:
Nofretete
Sheba
Sekhmet
Reiki
Merlin
Circe
Robinhood ( )
King etc. etc.

EDIT:
I forgot, there is also Caesar and Kleopatra on my Sun.

With all these egyptian queens / goddesses one could be easily led to ponder, if I might have led a royal life in Ancient egypt or surrounding the royal family (I mean Nofretete, Kleopatra, Sekhmet and the queen of Sheba was actually believed - by some- to have been an Egypt queen, too!).

However, what I think is pretty clear is that Egypt plays a significant role in my chart, and that I probabyl have lived at the time of Amenhotep / Echnaton, Nofretete and Tutenchamun, maybe even later around Caesar`s life, too.

Nofretete is also sextile Nefertiti in my chart, which falls on my Lilith (strong female symbols methinks).

Echnaton is exactly conjunct Horus. So both, Echnaton and Nofretete, are accompanied by divine symbols. Horus was also known as ruling / reignin God, which fits Echnaton I guess.
Sekhmet was the wild side of Bast, who was a sister to Isis, and therefor Sekhmet and Horus belonged to the same family.


BTW Amenhotep squares Nofretete and quinkunx Nefertiti exactly, and falls onto my Draco DSC and DRaco SN!

Hmm interesting. Nofretete is exactly conjunct King (and exactlys trines König, the German word for King!) and Nefertiti is exactly conjunct Queen.

Horus / Echnaton sextiles Isis / Osiris / Venus exactly (except for Venus, the sextile is 2°), quinkunx Pluto exactly, and square True Node and ASC (exact).


Also, Sphinx on 13 Taurus sextiles Tutenchamun on 13 Cancer and quinkunx Amun on 13 Sagittarius, forming an exact Yod.
And Amun is on the Egyptian Sabian!


Aten is conjunct my POM and opposes Nephtys and, sextiles Echnaton / Horus and trines Venus / Isis / Osiris.


It seems that no Egyptian asteroid is isolated in my chart. They are all interwoven in one huge web.


Hmm, do you think that could mean what I think? That I actually had a past life there?

Well, emotionally I felt it even as a child, since I saw the images of Echnaton and Nofretete for the first time. I was just so mesmerized with especially Echnaton. It was weird.

EDIT 2:
Oh and Neith, another Egyptian Goddess, is also exactly conjunct Nefertiti.

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posted February 07, 2009 04:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara,

"TUT conjunct Nefertiti (and opp moon)
caesar conjunct kleopatra and conjunct sun/nn
kleopatra opp sun/NN/kleopatra"


Tut conjunct Nefertiti seems very significant, especially since Tut is conjunct your ASC (is it your Tut btw in the synastry?).
So if that conjunction is on your ASC, I wouldn`t exclude the possibility of a past life at Tutenchamun`s time. But you already knew that.

Kleopatra - well, she was a queen and a woman. Maybe one of the better examples how you can balance your official and private position.
Often she is portrayed as very calculating, but personally I believe Caesar and she loved each other. Of course there is nothing to confirm this belief of mine.
So in that case maybe if it is strong in synastry, it could mean a bridging of different cultures or lifestyles or even countries through love?
I guess, my romantic side is speaking here.

If it`s your Caesar conjunct his Sun he might embody your ideal Caesar, the man that comes from oversea and quite surprisingly steals your heart.
Your Kleo opposite his Kleo could point at the seductive allure you have over him, even though he wouldn`t have expected that attraction (opposing).

But like always, that is just my thoughts. Maybe I am missing other possibilities to interprete that.

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posted February 08, 2009 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you ready to be really freaked out DD.
lol

Your name Asteroid is at 23 degrees Aquarius:

Conjunct Amemoptep at 23 Aquarius
Conjunct my IC at 25 Degrees Aquarius
Conjunct Eureka at 23 Degrees Aquarius
Conjunct Pallas at 24 Degrees Aquarius
Opposing Lillth at 20 Degrees Leo
Opposing Jung at 20 Degrees Leo
Trine Karma at 20 Degree Gemini
Trine Destin 21 Degree Gemini
Sextile my Moon at 21 Degrees Sag
Sextile my Neptune at 20 Degrees Sag
Sextile Merlin at 22 Degrees Sag
Sextile Reiki at 24 Degrees Sag
Sextile my Sun at 26 Degrees Aries
Quincunx Moira at 23 Virgo
Quincunx Samad at 22 Virgo


Things that make you go hmmm.......


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posted February 08, 2009 05:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*gulping*

"Your name Asteroid is at 23 degrees Aquarius:"
My Psyche is on 24 degree Aquarius!

BTW my name in my own chart is on 17 Taurus. Do you have anything nearby?


"Conjunct Amemoptep at 23 Aquarius"
That is VERY interesting. Cause I just recently had a "flash-back", when I was falling asleep, shortly before really sleeping.
And I suddenly was in Egypt, getting out of a chariot, and was standing in the hot sand, a bit behind a man, and we were both looking at a construction site, where a huge temple was being built by many slaves.
And the name "Amenhotep" suddenly was in my mind.

""Quincunx Samad at 22 Virgo"
What does Samad mean?


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Diandra23
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posted February 08, 2009 08:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all!

I decided to join DD´S Thread

I cant just pass in by and not add my own chart hihihihi

I already had looked into the Egypth asteroids once but i coulndt find any pattern,so i forgot those.
But i always felt very drawn to Egypth,as hundreds of souls in this planet yup :P

I know Egypths were one of the most evolved people that had crossed this Planet and i would fell completely happy if i knew i had been part of that fantastic Era.

now after reading all this thread i added the new asteroids i didnt had looked before.

I THINK i found sth.let´s see:

TROPICAL

within 3º

- Babylon is at 4 SCORP cj KLEOPATRA 4 Scorp.
- SUMERIA(r) is kikunkx my NN and trine Moon
- MESOPOTAMIA(r) is at 28 AQUA opose Venus 0º
- UR(r) is at 25 PISCES kikunx DNA and square Caesar
- JUNO is at 4 TAURUS (cj my Fate/kArma Mid.) and oposes my BABYLON/KLEOPATRA cj.
- JUNO is also trine my SUN and NOFRETETE
- CAESAR is cj my NN.
- CAESAR trine my Pluto/Lilith/DNA/MESOPOTAMIA. sQUARES my UR.
- BABEL 10 Cancer cj my MC.trines BABYLON and KLEOPATRA
- NOFRETETE is cj my SUN.
- NOFRETETE trines my Juno.sextiles My Babylon/Kleopatra 0orb.

- SPINKX is cj my Saturn and Pluto.
- SPINKX sextiles my venus and neptune 0
- SPINKX kikx Nepthrys.Trines MESOPOTAMIA and LILITH
- SPINKX cj my DNA
- GIZA cj my BABYLON 4orb.
- GIZA trines my BABEL.Opose my CHAELDEA and JUNO.
- NEPTHYS is cj UR 1ORB
- NEPHTYRS kikx SPINKX

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posted February 08, 2009 08:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DRACONIC

BABYLON is cj KLEOPATRA cj GIZA in LEO.(13-17)

ALL OF THEM are cj my natal Valentine mARS and Karma.

DNA/SPINKX/PLUTO/SATURN are all cj (6-9)

also cj my natal Valentine/Mars in 10 Leo.

Draco Sumeria at 28 Libra is cj my Natal SATURN/Pluto/SPINKX

DRACO NEPHTRYS/UR cj in 5 CAP are cj my natal IC.

DRACO CAESAR is cj my natal DSC 1

DRACO SUN cj NOFRETETE cj my natal NN/CAESAR 4

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posted February 08, 2009 08:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let´s see if there are possible conection of these asteroids between me and J´s natals:

his DNA cj my SUN and sextil my Valentine 0
His KLEOPATRA/Sun cj my ASC 0
his KLEOPATRA is kikx my Juno 0
his Saturn cj my DNA/Pluto cj 0
his Pluto cj my SPINKX/Pluto cj 2
his Jupiter cj my Giza 1
My Caesar cj his 12thCusp 0

Look at these ones!

his Caesar is opose my Sun 2
his Caesar is trine my KLEOPATRA 3
his Caesar is kinkx my Valentine 0
his Caesar is trine my GIZA 0
his Caesar is cj my AMor 6
his KARMA is opose my KLEOPATRA 3 and opose my GIZA 0 ( besides of cj my juno)
his GIZA is opose my Amor 2 and sqaure NN 2
his SPINKSX is sextile my CEASER and DNA

mY KLEOPATRA is trine his NN 3
My CEASER is square his Venus 0;opose Juno


Im strongly thinking that he could very well be my Ceaser that appears strongly in my chart!and that we met in some of these Egyththian Lifetimes.

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posted February 08, 2009 09:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now our DRACOS TOGETHER:

hIS dRACO Amor and GIZA cjmy Venus!
my Draco Kleopatra and Giza falls his 5H
his Jup cj my Pluto/DNA
mY d.mOON CJ his Valentine

his Sumeria cj my SPINKX/Saturn/Babylon!!!
His NPTHRYS cj my Giza
my Giza cj his NETHRYS and UR!!!
My D.Ceaser cj his NN

His DNA is kikx my Sumeria
His Sumeria opose my Juno and trine Sumeria
His Ur opose my Chaeldea and trine my Babel
His Chaeldea trine my Venus and Juno.
His Babel kikx my SPinckx
His BAbylon trine my Sumeria
His Nepthrys trine my MC and Babel.
Hsi Nepthrys opose my Juno and CHaeldea
His Giza opose my Mesopotamia
his Spinkx squae my Juno/Bablyon and sextil my ASC 0

His Kleopatra trine my Moon 4
His Kleopatra square my NN and opose my Amor
His Kleopatra kikx my Lilith
His Caesar square my MOon 1
his Caesar trine my NN 0. Cj my lilith and trine my DNA.widely trine my Ceaser also.
His DNA sextil my DNA and Ceaser
His Amor sextil my DNA Ceaser and Spinkx
His Valentine kikx my SPINKX
His KARMA sextil my cesar,nn,lilith.
His KARMA opose my DNA

My Kleopatra square his MOON and SPINKX
MY Ceaser opose his Lilith,square his MC
mY DNA trine his NN
My aMOR opse his SUN AND trine his ASC
My Valentine trine his Juno 0
My Giza sextil his Venus - DW
My SPINKX square his Moon

hIS Babel is cj my Nepthrys/Ur cj 0
My cHAELDEON cj his Kiron
My BABEL IS RIGHT ON HIS ASC!!!!
His CHAELDEON cj my IC

These are ALL within 3orb

But i wanted to know to WHAT i should look for to find out more probable clues that can enlighten me about these specific past lifes.

Should i look to the sabyans?And to what planets or asteroids must i study further?

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posted February 08, 2009 09:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra,

great to have you onboard.

I`m today a bit overwhelmed with long lists of asteroids.

So, for my taste, I`d really look at only the Babylonians (without the Egyptians) in aspect to

- each other
- Sun
- Moon
- ASC
- IC
- Vertex
- True Node
- Karma
- DNA
- Venus
- Mars
- Valentine
- Saturn
- Pluto


Oh and for the synastry I would think the Sabians of shared degrees would be important.

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posted February 08, 2009 09:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also I looked at J´s natal and then his draco.

he also has a lot of these asteroids figuring strongly:

NATAL:

Babel cj his MC
Kleopatra cj Babylon cj Sun
Ur cj Mespotamia cj uranus cj Mars
Chaeldeon opose Nofretete
DNA opose Caesear
Babel opose leopatra opose babylon also

DRACO to his NATAL

sUN/Kleo/babylon opose his natal Juno
His Mesopotamia/mars/uranus cj his natal Spinkx
Babel opose hiis NN and cj isis/osiris
Nofreteti cj his MC

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posted February 08, 2009 09:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra,

in the other thread you said you was shocked about IQ`s reply.
Why was that?

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