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Topic: Gays/lesbians/bi
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aquarianflake
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posted February 11, 2009 05:07 PM
Because aquarius is the sign of the intersex,
Are more gays/lesbians/bi s born under aquarius or have quantifiably strong aquarian positions in their chart i.e asc >moon>..And IF NOT- that is significant too isn't it...
because theoretically ,they should be Data would really help to integrate astrology with the mainstream as well as better understand the essential principle of homosexuality. Data? Thoughts? anybody gay? post your charts. know gay people? post their charts (with permission ,obviously) Peace be to you all my fellow seekers 
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Libralove09
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posted February 11, 2009 05:10 PM
from what i know, no. sexuality differences are not common in aqua suns.IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
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posted February 11, 2009 05:16 PM
There is a gay astrologer who had the theory that homosexual people would have a connection between Sun and Uranus (aspects, houseplacements, aspects between rulers etc.).
He did a research of a few hundred charts and based his conclusion on this.But he also sais, that homosexuality is just ONE possibility to express that Sun-Uranus-connection. IP: Logged |
Nyah
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From: Europe
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posted February 11, 2009 05:34 PM
I have a lesbian friend who has Sun trine Uranus. Some of her placements:
Sun Gemini
Moon Aries
Mercury Cancer
Venus Taurus
Mars Leo
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nattie33
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posted February 11, 2009 06:16 PM
An astologer friend once told me most people she noticed who were gay or bi were either virgos or pisces. or had these two signs prominent in their chartsIP: Logged |
venusmars
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posted February 11, 2009 06:50 PM
I have a tight sun uranus conjunction and I'm not gay so far..I have no problem with them though..IP: Logged |
mblover
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posted February 11, 2009 07:06 PM
I am in the process of compiling about 40 to 50 gay lesb bi charts..Here is my observation 1. Gemini, Virgo, Pisces and Sag have been prominent. 2. Some Aquas and Scorpios with conflicting Netpune or Moon aspects. 3. Aries Opp Libra aspects have shown Bi characteristics. 4. Some Sun Conj. Neptune or Opposite Neptune cases. 5. Saturn Opposite Neptune. Out of 40+.. 12 of them are Virgo Suns.. 10 are Gemini Suns.. 9 are Pisces Suns.. 2 Sco Suns (Gemini Mooners both) 2 Aqua Suns.. 1 Leo Sun.. 1 Capricorn Sun.. 2 Libra Suns.. 5 Sag Suns.. etc Interestingly, I haven't seen challanging Uranus aspects as much in these people. I also found that Pisces and Virgos were most confused about them being Gay or Lesb and always were open to being Bi as soon as I start probing with some tough questions on their past life! phew... IP: Logged |
missneptune
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posted February 11, 2009 07:42 PM
Traditionally Aquarius was ruled by Saturn, and I've met some very conservative Aquarian Suns. I made a post similar to this, I noticed that Women with a lot of Fire tend to be Bi or Lesbian. I'm not sure about men, I think aspects to Uranus instead of Aquarius would make sense. I think Goodgirl said that gay men tend to have Uranus conjunct Asc. IP: Logged |
missneptune
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posted February 11, 2009 07:48 PM
Here is my post Aquarianflake, if you're interested! http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/000668.html
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oneruledbymars
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From: South Carolina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 11, 2009 07:58 PM
I'm gay, but my Sun and Uranus don't have any aspects.
It is semi-sextile my Moon, for what that is worth.
And its conjunct my Ascendant.
I do have alot of Pisces though (Mercury and Venus). And my Moon is Sag.
But my Sun is Aries.
The only thing in Aquarius I have is my IC
So I guess I don't really help any.
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LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion!
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posted February 11, 2009 09:38 PM
OK...
I am intersex.
I live as a woman, not my choice.
I identify as gay male.
I was born externally male, internally female.
I was not given a choice to be myself, a fertile androgyne. They surgically chose female for me and forced me into early puberty at age 8 using female hormones.
I resent not being given the choice to be the real me.
I identify as gay male.
All psychiatric testing has determined I have a 98% male brain.
It would be 100% except for my being able to remember my dreams, which is a female brain trait.
I don't know if my chart reveals anything unusual.
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amowls
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posted February 12, 2009 12:28 AM
I think it's probably more common in Aquarian influenced people to be more OPEN to the idea of being gay.Anyway, I'm an Aquarius Sun, but I have "experimented" to see if I actually was gay, but I'm not lol. My gay best friend however, is gay and has an Aquarius Venus. My boyfriend also has an Aqua Venus and is not gay, but has kissed a few guys at parties to get girls (lol wut). My bff's Sun does not aspect her Uranus. IP: Logged |
mattomic
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posted February 12, 2009 07:45 AM
Ok - So after seeing this post i thought i'd do a little research to see the sun signs of my gay friends - haven't counted how many, but so far have at least one of these signs:
Aries
Taurus
Gemini
Cancer
Leo
Virgo
Libra
Scorpio
Sagittarius
Capricorn
Aquarius
Pisces
... and there we go! I've got gay friends from all 12 signs.. I'm guessing it's not sun sign related.
Just checked my Uranus, it's in sagittarius, whereas my sun is in cancer - so no simple aspect there.
Partner's uranus (Scorpio) is opposite sun (taurus).
Friend I's uranus is Uranus conjunct sun (sagittarius).
Friend II's uranus sagittarius, square sun (pisces).I mean, there are a couple sagittarius there, but that's hardly saying much. Matt IP: Logged |
lechien
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From: Germany
Registered: May 2009
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posted February 12, 2009 07:59 AM
now i'm very curious. i have lots of gay friends but i've never bothered to ask them their birth infos. i should start checking and see if there's any prominent stuff in their placements.IP: Logged |
lechien
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posted February 12, 2009 08:03 AM
being "more OPEN to the idea of being gay" seem to still have to be backed with other elements still. a friend of mine "tried" to be homosexual once and in the end thought it was just not going so well. i also thought i could be bisexual, but in the end i thought there was no point since i seem to really like men over women...  IP: Logged |
praecipua
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posted February 12, 2009 08:28 AM
oneruledbymars, you are exiting my curiosity. i give you a call if i come to south carolina.  i'm gay and i seem to qualify for all said above. aqua sun, square uranus, 5 planets in the pisces virgo axis, also pisces MC. T-square between saturn opp venus squaring neptune. i kind of resent linking my sexuality to astrology. i use astrology to define my preferences in other areas so why not, but i don't really think that it is either useful or necessary to identify an aspect for homosexuality. i would fear that a less open-minded society could decide to practice discrimination on this basis. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
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posted February 12, 2009 11:11 AM
That German astrologer, I was mentioning, was putting more emphasis on the house-ruler connections than a Sun-Uranus aspect alone.A "constellation" according to his understanding would have been: - Uranus in 5th house
- ruler of 11th house in 5th house
- ruler of 5th house in 11th house
- Sun conjunct / opposite / square / solstice point Uranus
- Uranus conjunct / opposite / square / solstice point cusp of 5th house (he ONLY uses Placidus / Topocentric houses and orb for such a cusp-aspect would be 1° at most)
- ruler of 5th house conj / opp / square / solstice ruler of 11th house
Well, but he himself also said, that this would only be a slight hint towards homosexuality in a society where heterosexuality is the norm.
As he said this aspect, especially tied to the 5th house, would indicate an "unusual" (sexual) behavioural pattern; unusual in the sense, that it would be different from the masses.
Personally I do not believe that you can see in a chart, if someone is gay or heterosexual.
And it shouldn`t matter anyway. IP: Logged |
GCcarrier
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posted February 12, 2009 03:20 PM
I have Aquarius AC opposing my Leo Moon. I am not lesbian, but I know I sometimes act boyish. Sometimes I am aware doing it, sometimes unconsciously. I think it is just one of my defense mechanism, though.My boyfriend's Sun square my Moon-AC opposition. One of the first thing he asked me when we started going out was if I am a lesbian. I don't know if his Sun aspect to my Moon-AC made him perceived me as such. I don't have Sun-Uranus aspect in longitude, but I have Sun contra-parallel Uranus in declination. Don't know if that counts. amowls:
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I think it's probably more common in Aquarian influenced people to be more OPEN to the idea of being gay.
I agree. Maybe, that's the reason why I have many gay friends since elementary.hi darkdreamer,
Your post made me wanna see my planets' house cusps. I found my Uranus in 10th house in Sagittarius. Its ruler Jupiter is Aquarius which is also my rising sign. No planets in 5th house, though. IP: Logged |
mattomic
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posted February 12, 2009 04:32 PM
Can I just say - re this : being open to the idea of being gay : business..In most cases - you either are or you aren't. There's no sense being open to it, or as someone said "trying to be gay". It's something that is with you from birth and isn't a preference, it's a fact. Just as most people are born heterosexual and can't change that. Being bisexual is another matter. I guess you could "try" that, or be open to trying that. IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion
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posted February 12, 2009 05:05 PM
I don't know about that. I am open to being gay, meaning, i am in a hetrosexual relationship, but had I fell in love with a woman instead of a man I guess I would be gay. I could have fallen in love with a woman. To me it is the person and so I really don't like those labels I appreciate beauty and sexiness in a man or a woman. I don't think that qualifies me as bisexual as I never had a relationship with a woman, but I could see it happening if that is who i loved.IP: Logged |
Glaucus
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From: Sacramento,California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 12, 2009 05:10 PM
I also want to stress that it can be hard to distinguish sex hormonal divergent people and gay peoplesex hormonal divergent meaning that male has high estrogen levels or female has high testosterone levels a male with high estrogen levels doesn't mean that the male is gay a female with high testosterone levels doesn't mean the female is a lesbian
that's very important to understand. A lot of people think that sex hormonal divergent people are homosexuals. Many are,but many aren't.
Raymond
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oneruledbymars
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From: South Carolina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 12, 2009 07:56 PM
Praecipua:
Sounds like a plan. I will let you know if I get to France too.
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VirgOh
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Registered: May 2009
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posted February 12, 2009 09:21 PM
Not necessarily ... I am a full fledged Lesbian yet I am a Virgo without any aqua in my chart.IP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted February 13, 2009 12:10 AM
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