posted February 20, 2009 07:43 AM            

Iq by this do you mean that the Atlantians and Lemurians were flooded? I have dreams about floods.... Dreams that I posted to you and daydreams about htis and the feeling of being in Lemuria.... and I posted to you about crystals being used to store energy and information. Thats amazing and correlates to my day and night dreams.

How is all this represented in astrology. I've noticed for example people with air sign DNA in their charts seem to have a more etheral look and feel with distinctive electical energy (this is my feeling of description) compared to those with fire DNA who seem to have incredible vitality and those who share for example Libran DNA tend to look very beautiful.

Is there something in this? Am I being biased and influenced by what I already know astrologically?

posted February 20, 2009 07:55 AM            

* The ash thus serves as a reminder "

I was brought up Catholic and the ash is used during Lent when one vows to give up something for the advent weeks leading up to Easter, how ironic that this is associated with Lord Shiva. I'll bet the Vatican know this.

posted February 20, 2009 08:52 AM              

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Thats interesting Lara -would your wand be a similar thing to what is called a "Lemurian Seed Crystal"?
They are wand-shaped, and have etchings of lines on them parallel to the base/tip of the crystal, and have a greyish hue sometimes,or are clear.

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Yes it is probably a seed crystal although it is 9" long and 7/8" wide so it's a lot bigger than the seed crystals l just googled. Also those ones have lines and etchings whereas mine also has pyramids and mountain ranges etched into it.

I keep mine in my cupboard and l haven't picked it up for months. I just picked it up and "whoosh" - this incredible surge of energy went through my body and it's raised my energy level about 4 notches! So i'm getting close to being intune with it now

I've had this crystal since i was 22 years old and now i'm 40. It won't let me sell it, no one has ever touched it other than me. I will try to take a photo of the etchings later.

posted February 20, 2009 11:03 AM              

that is interesting about your dream of the floods.

Cause I myself remember a dream, I had when I was a child, about a horrible flood in an ancient city, with people trying to escape from their, families and loved ones being separated by the waters.
But the really eery thing is that I dreamed about it in absolute silence. I mean you would think I had heard the screams and all those noises. But there was just silence. Just an odd random note.

I also remember another dream, where I was standing somewhere out there, looking up into the sky, seeing a planet being blown up. In that dream I thought it to be Neptune. It was a green-blue planet. I remember that much.
Strange dream, which never really left me, even though I dreamed it almost 20 years ago.
Butt hen again Neptune, Atlantis and Poseidon are conjunct my ASC, so maybe that was just a reflection of this.

posted February 20, 2009 01:22 PM            

Like DD, I am skeptical of this stuff, but I am open to possibilities.

my DNA looks strongly Mesopotamian too,and that seems like a far more realistic possibility

Mesopotamia consisted of Sumerian,Akkadian,Babylonian,and Assyrian empires.

DNA-Mesopotamia-Atlantis are conjunct the Imum Coeli which is the 4th house cusp,and is associated with family heritage.

what do you think of DNA in Sagittarius?

posted February 21, 2009 04:31 AM              

aqua/scorp - ah thank you kindly for bumping that [Kaali-Siva]thread in Astro1.Much appreciated!

Quinnie - I too hope that what we explore in here will be helpful to you in your future career. I only wish more people were aware and as willing to help the victims of these things as you are.

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So what Venus/Kaali aspects indicate stellar dna? All cross aspects?

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Good question.I think all human Dna has stellar origin mixed in. It is there. It may lie dormant, or it may be activated in an individual, in the same vein as genetic activation of certain genes in one individual over other genes found in them for the purpose of phenotypic expression.

The Venus/KAALI/Pluto etc aspects refer to these 'activation' triggers in an individual who, like the rest of the human race, has these genes embedded in their dna, (along with god knows what else)

So far what I have gathered is the presence in the natal of Venus/KAALI and Pluto/KAALI would indicate the predisposition to having strong Reptilian DNA. Often it is the challenging aspects, but really at this stage it appears that any major Ptolemic aspects count.
I do not however know why Venus and Pluto. Venus in particular is a mystery to me. Yet it appears with extreme regularity.

I am not sure where light beings would be from.

IQ - Wow thank you for posting the essay- I am still working my way through it.
100% in agreement with you on the information contained therein-even if I wish humanity's lot was not so heavily influenced.

Glaucus - you indeed have had a very active past by the looks of things.
*Whether you believe in such things is another matter entirely* All the KBO's intimately aspecting your points point to someone wired up in a fashion unlike the usual.

afflictedvenus -I am not sure about Antares, but it is known as the 'Heart of the Scorpion', and was one of the 4 Archangel stars - standing for Oriel, the archangel of the West. The other three are Aldebaran/Michael/East, Fomalhaut/Gabriel /South and Regulus/Raphael/North. These are also known as the four Royal stars.
They might signify which particular star race your particular genetic makeup resonates the most with, which parts of our jumbled-upand messed with genetic code are activated in this incarnation in you [As IQ has written about in the essay on our hidden history, posted above].
As these four stars refer to angelic beings, then you might find exploring these energies,working with angels and delving into such spiritual areas to be beneficial to you.

Lara - Sounds beautiful. From what I know, the ones that have the pyramid/mountain shapes in them are 'Teacher' points, and they hold stores of information from Lemuria, that is there to be accessed. Oh and they tend to be very adamant about picking people.At the shop I worked at, when they found someone they liked, it was exactly as it was with you. That poor person couldn't get them out of their mind, and had to acquire them.

posted February 21, 2009 05:54 AM              

funny you said this about dreams being what they seem, as I have dreamed about Lemuria last night. Well, I really do have no informations about Lemuria, but the name popped up in my dream.
And I remembered the dream when my auntie came this morning, and I told her that I had dreamed about Lemuria, and she frowned and said: "That name feels so familiar.". lol

Also interesting, just recently I have started to be thinking of the "blue flower" again. I think I must have watched a movie as a child where a blue flower played a role. And some years ago I started remembering this blue flower, wanting to "re-find" it. I know it doesn`t even exist, but coincidentally when I started thinking about it, my parents gave me a gift, a framed picture with a huge blue rose on it, which is hanging next to my bed now. It is the ONLY image that is allowed to be hanging there, cause I HATE pictures hanging over my head in the sleeping room.
But this one is different.

And I just looked up Lemuria and it seems the blue flower played a role there. Funny synchronicity, isn`t it?

Glaucus,

posted February 21, 2009 08:00 AM              

Can anyone point me sites or links where i can read more from these Different Types Of DN��s?

What is all about reptilian,Hybrids,are you talink about Humans that were Aliens?Or Aliens that are Humans at the same time?

Is it bad to have Reptilian DNA?

Like DD and Glaucus i also found out that me and my Bf had also encarnated in Babylon.

(DD-do you think you could have been a babylonian astrologer)?

posted February 21, 2009 10:07 AM            

My Moon in 3'11 Pisces is conjunct Fomalhaut in 3'28 Pisces in 6th house. Therefore,my genetic makeup resonates the most with Fomalhaut race,and I should be working with Gabriel. Because it's one of the Royal Stars, does that mean that I have royal ancestry on my mother's side?

My Moon opposes Saturn/Neptune midpoint in 3'28 Virgo in 12th because I have a t-square of Moon squares the opposition of retrograde Saturn in 5'08 Gemini in 9th and Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius in 3rd.

I believe that my Moon-Fomalhaut-Saturn/Neptune combo calls for me to not focus so much on material things and not lose touch of my spirituality as well as that I need to be grounded in spirituality,idealism.
skepticism,materialism vs. spirituality,idealism.

posted February 21, 2009 11:51 AM              

I think I have been connected to a cult in Babylon. I get the feeling I was some kind of "priestess"; I mean there is a reason I had that spontaneous image of the temple in mind with the crowds gathering there, when I stood before the replication of it.

(interestingly Vesta is conjunct Chaldaea in my chart).

posted February 22, 2009 09:24 AM              

angel - ac - nessus in air grand trine too.
transylvania semi sextile mars and sextile venus
(i have transylvanian in my blood)
lust trine chiron and semi sextile kaali/pan
sphinx trine AC
chaos conjunct exact NN/saturn/moon
semiris opp lucifer

posted February 22, 2009 10:40 PM              

I am very grateful she has allowed to release this information to be posted here for discussion.

Highly involved KAALI in her chart, and Venus once again seems to play an important role also - maybe I am not on a wild goose chase here, and there is something in all of this.

LUCIFER/Venus- interesting.

Why would that be? What is it that Venus embodies that is relevant to this bloodline stuff- I know that there's an old saying of "Venus in our blood", but aside from that I am drawing a blank.

Here is what I have gathered so far in terms of examples of possible indicators associated with Reptilian DNA in humans.

To make these shorter, I've only listed the KAALI,Venus,Pluto,DNA,KARMA aspects, adding
HEKATE-Moon, which seem to also pop up frequently.

Orbs are under 3�, and majority of the aspects had the orb of 0�-1�.

Where stated, there were numerous links between Nodes, LUCIFER,MOON,HEKATE and LILITH (with the above mentioned factors) present in the charts,but not included in this list.

Family #1 - related to the British Royal Family through the mother's side:
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Father

KAALI semi square DNA

No KAALI/Venus aspects.

Mother:

KAALI opposite Venus

Plus LUCIFER,LILITH aspects, and HEKATE conjucnt sun with wide orb of 4�, I am not sure if that counts IQhunk?

Son #1

KAALI square Venus
KAALI semi square KARMA
HEKATE opposite Moon

plus LILITH, LUCIFER apsects.

Son #2

KAALI semi square DNA
HEKATE sextile Moon

Has no KAALI/VENUS aspects! And surprisingly is the most "warm blooded" of the family, the least like them - is labeled the "black sheep" of the family.

Son #3: - Strong Reptilian energy.

KAALI conjunct Venus
KAALI trine PLuto
KAALI semi square Sun
KAALI Square KARMA
SIVA square Sun
HEKATE conjunct Moon

plus LUCIFER,LILITH aspects.

Family #2 - related to Vlad Tepes,
(of Transylvanian Fame, through the mother)
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Father

KAALI trine Venus
KAALI conjunct N.NODE
KAALI sesquiquadrate KARMA
KAALI sesquiquadrate DNA
HEKATE semi square Moon

plus LUCIFER,LILITH aspects.

Mother

KAALI opposite Pluto
KAALI semi square DNA

plus LILITH,LUCIFER and HEKATE aspects.

*TRANSYLVANIA inconjuncts her KARMA and Saturn*

Son #1- Strong reptilian energy.

KAALI conjunct Venus
KAALI square Puto
KAALi semi square KARMA

plus HEKATE,LUCIFER,LILITH aspects.
*Has TRANSYLVANIA conjunct Moon)

Son #2- Energy does not come across as
strongly reptilian.

KAALI square KARMA
HEKATE sextile Moon

plus LUCIFER aspects.
*TRANSYLVANIA sextiles Sun,Mars*

The Windsors:
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Queen Victoria:

KAALI square Pluto
KAALI sextile Venus
KAALI trine DNA
KAALI trine KARMA

HEKATE trine DNA
SIVA trine Pluto
SIVA inconjunct Venus

Queen Elizabeth 2nd:

KAALI conjunct Sun
KAALI inconjunct DNA
KAALI tirne KARMA

Plus active LUCIFER,HEKATE and LILITH.

Prince Charles:

KAALI sextile Pluto
KAALI Trine Venus
HEKATE opposite Moon
LUCIFER opposite DNA

Prince William

KAALI conjunct Sun
KAALI Q KARMA
KAALI inconjunct DNA
HEKATE opposite Moon

plus active LUCIFER,LILITH.

Prince Harry:

KAALI conjunct DNA
HEKATE inconjunct DNA

plus HEKATE,LUCIFER and LILITH aspects.

Conclusion?

There seem to be patterns present involving KAALi-Venus, KARMA,DNA,LUCIFER,HEKATE,MOON and LILITH interplays in the natal charts of Reptilian DNA 'activated' and 'dominant' individuals.

IQ I look forward to your criticism and review

posted February 22, 2009 11:18 PM              

In my own chart DNA is in Capricorn in the 2nd house and is retrograde. Hekate and Kaali are both retrograde and conjunct my north node and in the third house along with Lucifer, also Siva, Vesta, Lilith, and Karma are all conjunct together in my 9th house in Virgo. I'm probably just being superstitious, but does this have any significance?

posted February 23, 2009 12:48 AM              

Darkdreamer I think if you follow what you are getting revealed to you, then you may indeed discover much about what we are speculating on here! I'm beginning to think you definitely have links to those times.

Diandra23 -Hi!
I apologize for the seeming incomprehensibility of this topic, but if you have an open mind, I'd recommend sticking around and reading some posts, like
IQhunk's Essay on page 1 of this topic, to get some sense of what lies herein .

I am unsure how well I can try and explain it, but let me give it a go.

Some people believe that humans did not evolve directly from monkey through thousands of years of evolutionary successions, but instead were a 'genetic experiment' conducted here on Earth by numerous third parties.

This idea is based on the precepts that human DNA is not a natural evolutionary occurrence, but is an amalgamation of mammalian and Reptilian DNA, with various other splicing added in for flavor.
*Yes, I know this sounds so far-fetched, but bear with me*

This is not a new idea, but as IQhunk pointed out in his Essay on Page 1, is actually present in human consciousness from the darkest predawn of civilization.

Throughout the world and through the ages various cultures held this believe, which found expression in their religion (Egyptian,Sumerian,Babylonian etc, Native American traditions,Inca,Maori of New Zealand etc,Dogon),beliefs and customs (Hopi Indian Kachinas), art, literature and was held to be the true roots of human civilization.

One of the more common threads present is the idea, or belief in a Reptilian Race of beings present here on earth, and of interstellar origin.
They pop up again and again throughout history.
It is said that they were the true rulers of old, and now their descendants are the ones in power.

I think just googling "Reptilian bloodline" or 'Reptilian DNA' will get you inundated with links.

This is not however 'accepted' knowledge, in a sense that no University on earth 'endorses' or acknowledges their existence.
But there are many people who will tell you otherwise. People from all over the world, and from all walks of life - and some of them are even academics.

This thread deals with the possibility of
there being present in our natal charts astrological indications that may point to the native having a more active or predominantly one type of gene expression in their genetic makeup being activated-known as Reptilian DNA.

The premise here is that EVERYONE has some Reptilian DNA in them, but some people have a larger dose.

I wouldn't say it is necessarily a good thing to be strongly Reptilian, and some people would say it is downright terrible.

I hope that was of any help?

missneptune I am not sure, about DNA in Capricorn, but retro DNA seems to be a common factor with these cases studied in this thread.

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Lucifer is conjunct her Sun, Siva conjuncts her Venus, and Hekate conjuncts her Pluto in the first house along with her south node

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I would say you definitely have lineage links to Reptilian Bloodlines somewhere down the line through your mother.
LUCIFER and HEKATE in aspect to Sun/Moon/Nodes/KARMA/DNA I have found to be of strong presence in such people.

As a rule of thumb, the more of these factors are evident in the chart, the higher the correlation to Reptilian bloodlines.

With the aspects present in your own chart,
I would suspect that you might attract someone with KAALI/Venus aspects.

Are you attracted/involved with any occult practices/subjects? The LUCIFER/LILITH/KARMA/VESTA conjunction - what are the orbs?

I don't think entertaining possibilities is being superstitious
IF you have access to birth data of any of your significant others -check and see if the same patterns pop up there too. I found that they often did (so far in my research).

posted February 23, 2009 02:42 AM              

Kaali/Hekate conjunct Pallas
Kaali conjunct Hekate
Kaali/Hekate semi-square DNA
Kaali/Hekate inconjunct N.N
Kaali/Hekate inconjunct Magion
Kaali/Hekate inconjunct Karma
Lucifer inconjunct Jupiter
Lucifer opposition Karma
Hekate semi-sextile Venus/Saturn
Haekate inconjunct Chiron

Siva square Chaos, Moon/Pluto, conjunct Mercury, sextile Mars/N.N, semi-square Uranus, quintile Karma and widely trine DNA.

Chaos opposition Moon/Pluto, square Mercury, bi-quintile Venus, semi-sextile Mars.

posted February 23, 2009 03:52 AM              

Why Venus? This is the out of the box 'reasoning':
1. Venus was not mentioned by ancient astronomers until after 2000 BCE, which indicates that this planet was not to be found in it's present, prominent position prior to this time.
Velikovsky proved that Venus did not belong to our Solar System originally, but came in as a comet mostly from Jupiter. A sophisticated Alien Lifeform Invasion from a Star Gate?

2. In Vedic Scriptures, Venus is called Shukracharya and is the Lord of Asuras or Demons (Reptilian Draco?). Asuras are notrious for being sex-crazed and filled with material desires.
It is possible that Venus also rules love for the sake of lust rather than love as popularly marketed.
Love for Lust is typical Red Chakra behaviour, the hallmark of pure reptilian energy. Venus rules material tastes as well as a love for luxury, beauty and allurements.

Why KAALI?
Well, she is the main Astral goddess who transmutes "prana" received in any form.
It is said that she even sees to it that those who are sacrificed to her are given a higher evolution. So yes, many wicked sell their souls to her but the innocent victims are rewarded in their rebirth.
It is said the really smart Tantriks do not sell their soul, they perfrom rituals to impress the goddess without shedding blood.
The smartest of the smart Illuminati appease the goddess for gain by innovatively tapping technology towards her: Drugs, Alcohol, Raves in Nightclubs, Pornography and Addictive TV to unconsiously leak the energy of ignorant humanity.
Additionally, they do it with 4D techniques of minimizing Karmic punishment. All this is Repitlian DNA being used with Advanced Reptilian Intellignece for the sake of worldy gain.

Other notes: Venus conj DNA will also indicate strong Reptilian Energy.
Lucifer need not be Reptilian, mainly deliberate disobedience. Strong Lucifer for a person born in an evil family may actually make the person do good!

Again, strong reptilian component in DNA need not be bad at all. Just add some dose of Self Sacrifice and Ethics to the mix, and we have true motivated leadership potential.

The great Howard Carter has KAALI conj EROS conj True Node with PALLAS in the 13-14 degree of Aries. He spent 20+ pioneering years for the tomb of Tutankhamun. [For Asteroid Junkies, let me add one more secret: Carter has KARMA exact trine TUTENKHAMUN and TYCHE has exact quincunx TUTENKHAMUN, right on cue ]
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Here is an interesting wordplay:

CROCODILE = IDLE CROOC (CROOK ?)

ALLIGATOR has GORILLA in it, clue to primate-reptile mixing?

DRAGON lexi:
A GOD, A GONAD AND A GOD, DRAG ON GONAD.

REPTILIAN lexi:
PART ALIEN, PINEAL IN PAIN, ALIEN LAIR

Queen e-LIZA-beth = LIZARD from THEBES ?

Wizard of Oz or Lizard of Oz? The movie has been used for programming reptilian slaves.

ARNE SAKNUSSEM is the character who first goes to the inner Earth in the famous book by Jules Verne.
The wordplay of the name is
US SNAKES ARE MEN.

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posted February 23, 2009 06:20 AM              

"I'm beginning to think you definitely have links to those times."
You mean a past life in Atlantis or something like that?

The strange thing is that there seems to be some kind of "Drowning-karma" in my family, especially on my mother`s side.
Her brother died in a drowning accident when he was 1 and a half year old (she was 3 at the time and had to witness that).
I myself drowned and nearly died in a swimmingpool when I was about 1 and a half year old. It must have been pretty close, as my Dad couldn`t find me anywhere under water in the swimmingpool, but suddenly I had been there, as if someone had "placed" me directly on his arm, as he once told me. Well, needless to say I have asteroid Angel exactly conjunct Poseidon, Atlantis, and ASC and also conjunct True Node.
However, many years later my youngest brother nearly drowned (my middle brother pulled him out of the water and therefore saved his life) and guess how old my youngest brother was when he nearly drowned?
Yes, 1 and a half year ago (well approximately the same age, I found that strange).

My aunt on the other hand and my middle brother who is mentally handicapped, both are swimming like dolphins, and in fact all of us share a deep love for dolphins, especially my aunt and me. I remember that we once started to cry simulaneously when we saw a dolphine in a zoo. There was nothing horrible being done to him, but the fact alone that he was being in that zoo, made us cry. Of course that has been long ago.

But whenever my aunt, my youngest brother and me are longer than 5 minutes in the same room, the talk will mysteriously turn to animals, especially dolphins and birds, outer space (and the arrogance of humans believing they are the only intelligent lifeform in the whole univers, which is just a really ridiculous thought, if you think about it), and - through the influence of my brother - to conspiracy theories revolving around the American ruling family, espcially the Bush and Kennedy dynasty, and the question, if the ability and willingness to exact evil acts is inscripted in the genetic code of people or how much influence education really has.

Actually my mom already has forbidden us to mention the words "Bush" or "CIA" or "disappeared firemen, who were present at the fall of the second tower" or "disappeared journalists and scientists who have said something on TV they shouldn`t have said" at dinner. lol

Well, I had a look at our family`s aspects. I definitely do not think that we have strong Reptilian DNA, as neither of us is really "powerhungry".
BUT it has been a deliberate decision for every single one of us, to concentrate on moral and ethical principles and realize that all this material success basically means nothing.
Also, "power" and "authority" has always been a big issues for all of us.
My Dad for example has been offered pretty influential positions several times, but he always refused in favour of his family.
My Mum comes from a family, which were pretty wealthy and influential before the 2nd world war, and lost everything in it, and she herself has been growing up in a pretty poor family, and found herself having some issues with the authoritative education style of my grandparents and later on had to deal with the premature loss of her mother.
Also, people seem to "sense" some danger in her and try to make her "shut up", as she has a certain talent to see through the games some people are playing and will put her finger on the sore spot so to speak. At least in a social context, and most people do not want to hear about this.

Also, she and my Dad are members of a caritative organisation which is supporting mentally handicapped people.
My mum even founded (with some other people) a little organisation on her own.
She pulled out of it, when local Politicians started to pay more attention to this organisation, and tried to use it for their "propaganda", even offering my mom a higher position, but that was never why she had co-founded that organisation.

My brother is very social, too. And what is very noteable is his difficulties with authority figures.
They usually see him as a threat and will act accordingly.
The problem, most authority figures have with our family, is that we tend to think for ourselves and will have our own opinion, after listening to many different perspectives.
And the insecure authority figures don`t really like that attitude. lol

However, I think power may be a theme for us, just in that we are VERY suspicious of it.

Sorry for the long and probably to most uninteresting introduction.
But those are our aspects:

Dad

[KAALI conjunct LILITH]
sextile DNA
sextile HEKATE

HEKATE trine DNA

SIVA opposes KARMA
SIVA sextile [SATURN conjunct ASC)

LUCIFER sextile [VENUS conjunct JUPITER]

VENUS semisquare DNA

Mum
DNA quinkunx HEKATE

KAALI opposes MARS
KAALI trines MERCURY

SIVA sextile JUPITEr
SIVA quinkunx LUCIFER
SIVA square [SUN conjunct KARMA]

HEKATE square MOON

Aunt
[DNA exactly conjunct VENUS] opposes KAALI

HEKATE trine SUN
HEKATE square TRUE NODE
HEKATE opposes SIVA

brother
[KAALI conjunct DNA]
sextile [MOON conjunct JUPITER conjunct URANUA]
quinkunx HEKATE
opposes VENUS

SIVA square PLUTO

LUCIFER trine KARMA

ASC sextile LILITH

DD
[LILITH conjunct HEKATE]
trine VENUS
trine LUCIFER
square [TRUE NODE conjunct ASC]

[KAALI conjunct SN]
square JUPITER

SIVA SQUARE MOON
SIVA trine SATURN
SIVA quinkunx KARMA

LUCIFER quinkunx ASC