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Glaucus
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posted February 27, 2009 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"As far as the Indigo thing goes. Honestly, I am what I am. The label it is given by the New Agers is Indigo. All I know is that I fit all the descriptions that they make for them. And many have told me that I am one for whatever reasons compelled them . What I do know and have known from small child is that I am different. But arent we all. Its what makes us unique. Labelling seems to rub people the wrong way though so I try to avoid that. Who needs labels anyway, they are so restricting. When we take them off, we free ourselves up to be anything that we want too, and thats usually more amazing than any word that is in our vocabulary. "


I can relate to both the Indigo,Crystal stuff......I was crystal-like in early childhood. Then after special education therapies of auditory therapy,speech therapy,phonics,and motor skills therapy, I became more Indigo-like. I talked to a neurodivergent female friend of mine last night,and she told me that she can relate to both the Indigo,Crystal stuff. She was born in 1965. She has a history of learning differences,and so did her son. She wants to be an elementary school teacher and work with people with disabilities.

I do believe partially in the concept of indigo,crystals. I just don't believe that it is a generational thing.

It is said that an influx of indigos started in 1978.

ADHD was first officially recognized in adults in 1978 too. That was the same year of the discovery of Chiron,the first centaur in our solar system.
I was misplaced with the mentally retarded in special education in 1977 when the conjunction of retrograde objects,Chiron in 5'24 Taurus and Sedna 5'12 Taurus in my 8th were in opposition to my cazimi of Sun in 5'20 Scorpio and Ixion(big kuiper belt object plutino,potential dwarf planet)in 5'25 Scorpio in 2nd. Transiting Neptune in 13'24 Sagittarius in my 4th was squaring my Ascendant in 13'26 Virgo and transiting Saturn in 23'31 Leo was conjunct my Huya (big kuiper object plutino)in 24'25 Leo in 12th was opposing my Mars in 25'54 Aquarius in 6th at the time too. It was in 1978, I was placed in a more appropriate special education class that had no mentally retarded children in there after I was discovered to have above average intelligence. Transiting Uranus was in 13'14 Scorpio in my 3rd sextile my Ascendant in 13'26 Virgo,transiting Saturn in 5'10 Virgo in my 1st sextile my cazimi of Sun in 5'20 Scorpio and Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio in 3rd, transiting Pluto in 15'18 Libra was conjunct my Uranus in 15'17 Libra in 2nd, and transiting retrograde Sedna in 5'41 Taurus in my 8th was opposing my cazimi of Sun in 5'20 Scorpio and Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio in 2nd. Therefore,Transiting Saturn sextile Uranus was in wedge configuration with my Sun-Ixion cazimi.

Adult ADHD

Main article: Adult attention-deficit disorder

In the 1970s researchers began to realize that the condition now known as ADHD did not always disappear in adolescence, as was once thought. At about the same time, some of the symptoms were also noted in many parents of the children under treatment. The condition was formally recognized as afflicting adults in 1978, often informally called adult ADD, since symptoms associated with hyperactivity are generally less pronounced.

It has been estimated that about eight million adults have ADHD in the United States.[126] Untreated adults with ADHD often have chaotic life-styles, may appear to be disorganized, and may rely on non-prescribed drugs and alcohol to get by.[127] They often have such associated psychiatric comorbidities as depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, substance abuse, or a learning disability.[127] In 2004, noted researchers estimated the yearly income loss for adults with ADHD in the United States as $77 billion. This may be partially because it is also estimated that only 15% of adults in the U.S. with ADHD are aware that they have the disorder, although many adults struggle with it.[128] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention-deficit_hyperactivity_disorder

In the book, THE CARE AND FEEDING OF THE INDIGO CHILDREN by Doreen Virtue, it said that indigos are often born to lightworkers

A bunch of new age hippies were probably lightworkers!......especially in San Francisco where I was born and where my parents met. hahahahaha


I guess the metaphysically oriented people with neurodivergent conditions(ADHD,Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,other Learning Differences,Aspergers,Autism) would be referred to as Indigos,Crystals

I guess the metaphysically oriented people without neurodivergent conditions would be referred to as lightworkers.

I believe ADHD is at the mild end of the neurodivergent spectrum and autism is at the high end of the neurodivergent spectrum.
ADHD doesn't require any special education therapies, and they fit better with Montessori,Waldorf,and Sudsbury type of schools. They could also benefit from homeschooling too. ADHDers aren't made to be routine 9-5 workers,and so they need to stop being trained to be like them. It is said that 5 percent of the population have ADHD. Many of them have other neurodivergent conditions like Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,Aspergers. Comorbidity tends to be the rule and not the exception. Because of that, it seems that it's ridiculous to give labels for things that can be 4 sides of the same box.

The whole family on my mom's side seem Indigo like. From what my mom told me, my father seemed an Indigo-Crystal combo.

The conjunction of Uranus-Neptune in Capricorn is said to be an Indigo signature. I disagree with that unless it's personalized by aspect say an aspect to the sun,moon,ascendant,midheaven, and/or even mercury which is mental processes.I know an Aquarius lady online who has a son with Uranus-Neptune in Capricorn conjunct the Imum Coeli and sextile Moon. She says that he is very gifted, but he is on Ritalin. He wants to be a video game designer. The lady herself is into computers and highly educated. He could have inherited her traits from him. I am a believer in hereditary traits which are in synchronicity with astrology as in astrohereditary.

if you read Doreen Virtue's book on Indigo Children, you will see that they have the same traits as other neurodivergents. The only difference is that the Indigo Children are metaphysically oriented. Many neurodivergents are metaphysically oriented too,and many of them get diagnosed as having mental illnesses like bipolar and schizophrenia. Psychiatry doesn't recognize metaphysical stuff. There are older neurodivergents that are metaphysically oriented. I think that there a lot more metaphysically oriented neurodivergents but they are not open about metaphysical stuff.


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posted February 27, 2009 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for that information Raymond. I have never heard of Neurodivergent kids before. That is very interesting. The work you are doing on there behalf is quite extraordinary. Honestly before that lady told me that "my generation had come here" I had never thought of myself as being part of a "generation thing". It all boils down to the fact that at this very moment I don't know. And when I don't know something I have learned that, that is my cue to get somewhere and sit down and watch the Universe take care of things.

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posted February 27, 2009 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I will explain where the word neurodivergent comes from.

This is a post on the origins,meaning of the word, "neurodivergent" that I made over a month ago.

Neurodivergence is not really another label like Indigo and ADHD


Neurodivergence is not a diagnosis nor any other type of medical term. It's not a New Age label either. It's not a label that means deficient nor is it a label that means something great. It's not some label that puts people down nor makes people feel good. It's not a label that's positive nor negative. It's just neutral like the word human, or homo sapiens which is technically the name of our species.


label is a short word or phrase descriptive of a person, group, intellectual movement, etc.

name is a word or a combination of words by which a person, place, or thing, a body or class, or any object of thought is designated, called, or known.

The actual concept of name and label are pretty much the same.....just semantics. Our own names(first,middle,last name, nicknames,user names) are labels which identify who we are.

the term,label can be used for any noun which is a word in regards to a person,place,or thing. words themselves can be labels. even the word itself is an actual label for the thing itself. All words were made up,and they were created to describe certain things whether a noun,verb,adjective,adverb. It's better than using unintelligible noises like grunts to describe something. That's why we humans created words which we use in speech,writing,and typing. It was developing verbal communication. Of course there is also nonverbal communication in the form of facial expressions,gestures,body language,and even tone of voice.

the term, "neurodivergent" is a liberal and practical word to use. Some would say that it's a politically correct word to use. It's better than using words like "stupid","idiot","crazy","retarded",and other negative labels that were usually given by people that aren't like us. I know from personal experience since my special education years. It's not a word that means defective. It's not a word that has any metaphysical connotations either. There is no need for it. Many people that don't fit the relative neurological norms are metaphysically oriented,and some aren't. There have been people like us existing in ancient times. We're not something recent. I am 37 yrs old(born October 29, 1971) and come from a family of neurodivergents on both my mother and father sides of my family. I think that there is some misunderstanding about the use of the word. When we neurodivergents use the word,"neurodivergent", we use that as word to say "hey..there is nothing wrong with us...we're not some mental defects...different doesn't mean deficient" However,both conventional and alternative health practitioners tend to have that view.

as for Neurodivergence -

neuro as in neurological

divergence as in - to diverge (third-person singular simple present diverges, present participle diverging, simple past and past participle diverged).....the opposite of convergence

1. (intransitive) to run apart; to tend into different directions

divergence as in different


in the book, UPSIDE DOWN BRILLIANCE The Visual-Spatial Learner by Linda Kreger Silverman, Ph.D.

on page 377
the author wrote the following about visual spatial learners:

are divergent thinkers, preferring solutions that are more creative.
- may be actually unaware of the more usual methods of problem-solving or classification--or they may be unaware to use these because they have things framed in a different way.

neurodivergent just means different way of thinking,thinking outside the box, a different frame of mind. atypical neurological processing.
It's a term that was first used by Autistic,Aspergers people to describe themselves as people that are just different type of thinkers,and so they don't see themselves a deficient that they need to be fixed in some way. Then it later on got extended to Dyslexics,Dyspraxics,ADHDers,Tourette Syndrome.

It has to do with the neurodiversity movement which I strongly support. It has to do with the belief of civil/equal rights for people who don't fit inside the box that include things like equal treatment and protesting against things that try to put us in a mental straightjacket like medications. We don't believe that we are types that should be medicated because we don't fit inside a box. I don't agree with the psychiatric medicating of Autistic Spectrum people nor ADHD people. Antipsychotics like Risperdal are used on these people now,and I am strongly against that. If I was a child in the 1990's or 2000's and had parents and/or teachers that wanted me medicated instead of a child in 1970's/1980's, I'd be on Ritalin or some other psychiatric meds too. I was lucky to have special education with great special education teachers instead as well as a 4th grade regular school teacher who straightened me up and helped me realize my potential as a regular student that I finished the year with award for most improved student with a B plus average report card. I started off with typical ADHD behaviors in 4th grade. In October 1999, I was misdiagnosed as having schizoaffective bipolar disorder because my speech was abnormal,and they wanted me to take an antipsychotic. My thought processes weren't psychotic. These people were clueless. They didn't know about my history of special education,speech therapy. Later on the neurologists including the world renowned neurologist/psychiatrist, Dr. Harold N. Levinson told me that I wasn't psychotic and confirmed my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia. Therefore, I felt vindicated. I became my own advocate and succeeded in getting my neurodivergence recognized,documented for the first time since my special education years. I fought against the psychiatric diagnoses. I wouldn't have done that if I hadn't learned about neurodivergent conditions in 2003 and realized that I wasn't stupid,crazy, and that my misdiagnosis of schizoaffective bipolar was a misdiagnosis.

I realized that I inherited my neurodivergence from both my parents who had their problems with psychiatry because of their neurodivergence. I realized that my father always had problems with his neurodivergence, especially as a black man born on Jan 2, 1941. He didn't get help for his,and he got diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic. My mom(born June 13, 1954) told me that he had the same speech,auditory processing,and coordination problems that I have. He was a highly emotional,ultrasensitive person like me too. After I showed stuff about Dyslexic Syndrome(which was a term that Dr. Levinson used for Neurodivergence because of Dyslexia and the other neurodivergent conditions have strong overlap in symptoms) to my mother, she even told me that she has a lot of the neurodivergent symptoms. She is also a highly emotional,ultrasensitive person like me too. One of the problems,she tends to overreact to things and lose her temper easily and that led to her verbally and physically abusing me. She got easily angry if she felt like she was being talked down to or "getting smart" with her which she perceived me to do when I was talking back like in a retort or rebuttal, especially if I am trying to make a valid point that might come off rather sharp. She confessed to me that she didn't feel like she was smart until her early 30's. I read the same list to my maternal aunt Dominga (born on Nov 9, 1961),and she told me that has a lot of the neurodivergent symptoms too. Her daughter,Shavon(born on Nov 30, 1980) was diagnosed ADHD at 7 years old. I even talked to her other daughter,Gina(born on August 14, 1982),and she told me can relate to ADHD. I talked about neurodivergent conditions to my maternal stepgrandmother(born on Sept 11, 1941). She told me that my uncle(her son) Eddie(born on Sept 3, 1961), who had speech problems, was recommended to be be put on medication for hyperactivity,but she refused. She told me that she's hyperactive,and so was my grandfather(born June 22, 1935) and they weren't on medication for their hyperactivity. Therefore,she thought it made no sense for my uncle to be medicated for his hyperactivity. She also told me that my maternal grandfather's half brother,Gino is Dyslexic. She,herself,told me that she has problems remembering things that she reads. My uncle Eddie's son,Joey(born Feb 18, 1994) is described as a hyperactive type. Most of my mom's family have significant neurodivergent traits(mainly ADHD). Therefore,it seems like I come from a neurodivergent family.

I realized that my life purpose is to help my fellow neurodivergents,and that includes raising the issue about the need to distinguish neurodivergence from psychiatric disorders to prevent the psychiatric misdiagnosing of neurodivergents. I don't want my fellow neurodivergents to go through what I and many other neurodivergents have gone through. I grew up believing that I was meant to do something special,but I didn't know what. I seriously believed that. That's the thing "special". I was referred to as being "special" in my early childhood years because of my having special education needs. If it wasn't for special education therapies(auditory therapy,speech therapy,phonics,motor skills therapy), I'd still be autistic-like. I did resemble somebody with autism,and that's why I misplaced with the mentally retarded in 1st grade. Therefore,I can relate to the New Agers label of Crystal given by New Agers for autism. Now I am Aspergers-like. I never had the nonverbal communication issues though. I was always very good with nonverbal communications. Dyspraxia and Autistic Spectrum have a strong overlap in symptoms/traits. Therefore, as a Dyspraxic,I always resembled somebody as being on autistic spectrum. Any ways....As a person that had special education needs, I am meant to help others with special education needs...especially children. Therefore,I was meant to do something special literally.

DANDA was formed by neurodivergents for neurodivergents. I know some of these people from Dyspraxia Yahoo group.


The term Neuro-Diversity was first coined in the USA in the nineties on a computer list for people with Autism and Asperger’s Syndrome. Internet searches on the term tend to direct you to sites dealing with these conditions. It was also used by dyslexics on one of their lists in the USA. Unlike most names for ‘medical’ conditions, it was not chosen by the professionals.

However, many have now adopted it. Neuro-Diversity refers to the spectrum of neurological profiles describing how effective an individual is in processing information. This information comes in many forms, including written and spoken language, sounds, visual images, light, temperature, touch, texture and taste – as well as movement and co-ordination signals form the brain.

The processing of all these things includes not only receiving and interpreting, but also transmitting, concentrating and storing. For most people, i.e. the Neuro-Typical (NT), the cognitive profile is relatively smooth, with little variation in effectiveness of information processing.

This is in line with their general level of intellectual and reasoning ability. In contrast, a minority of people, i.e. the Neuro-Divergent (ND) have a cognitive profile which shows significant peaks and troughs, denoting significant disparity between the best and worst of their information processing.

The processing differences are present from birth, and are independent of any basic physical malfunctions, for example of eyes, ears or limbs. It is thought that 10% of the population is significantly ND, with many more having some degree of neuro-diversity. The norms of ‘easy’ and ‘difficult’ tend not to work for NDs, and in many cases are actually reversed.

For some, complex mathematical analysis is ‘a walk in the park’, where an actual walk in the park can be a nightmare.

What conditions does Neuro-Diversity include

• The conditions currently considered part of Neuro-Diversity are Dyspraxia, Dyslexia, Dyscalculia, AD (H)D, Asperger’s Syndrome, Autism and Tourette’s syndrome, as well as other conditions such as Semantic Pragmatic Disorder and Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD). What problems can be caused by to lack of Awareness

• Over and above the difficulties that can be caused by Neuro-Diversity itself, there are a number of issues that arise as a result of a lack of awareness of Neuro-Diversity by NDs themselves, and by society at large. Many NDs, even as adults, are not aware of the condition, let alone that they have it.

There is a very low level of awareness among the medical profession in relation to adults. Many NDs have got themselves into a pattern (consciously or unconsciously) of masking or over-compensating for their difficulties from birth, and may find it hard to be assertive.

As a result of having to deal with their conditions in a world not willing to accommodate them, the ND can have mental health problems, including anxiety, depression and low self-esteem, and some can end up with drug/alcohol abuse which may also mask their condition. Many have problems realising their (often considerable) potential.

For example, the workplace is designed around the needs/features of the Neuro-Typical, e.g. open plan offices without screens to reduce distractions, and an expectation of organisational/administrative skills and an ability to multi-task.

The sooner the associated conditions are diagnosed and people given the necessary support and opportunities, the more likely it will be that they can lead fulfilled lives.

www.danda.org.uk/

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posted February 28, 2009 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Redstar, I have Dna in Aquarius not retro... but
the person who I know has Aquarius retro DNA

So this links in for me as dna retro in air sign then could indicate high reptilian dna but also dna in AQuarius could have links specific to Atlantis and a connection between the reptillian and Atlantis influence.

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Yeah IQ this thread has been great-if highly digressed and exploratory of many varied topics.
I'm sure that has been beneficial to our learning though.

oneruledbymars -

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I just looked up my strongest soulmate connection to date.

We have a Kaali-Mars opposition DW for starters.
His Kaali 2 Libra my Mars 7 Aries (wide I know)
My Kaali 7 Leo his Mars 9 Aquarius


Thats seems to me to be a pretty significant connection for triggering Kaali-related spiritual/sexual/creative transformation in each other.
Being a DW to boot, I'd imagine it was hard to get out of bed.
It seems your experiences of these aspects are bang on as to their significance.
Glad you had the chance to experience them.

He does seem to have an active Kaali and Siva in his chart - I wouldn't rule it out on the reptilian Dna front.Maybe it's a case of not necessarily being strongly reptilian, but instead being able to utilize what reptilian Dna you do have to it's full potential (in conjunction with mammalian wisdom)

I do think interaspects with others concerning Dna tends to indicate those that are 'compatible' to us, in an almost inbuilt/genetic manner - like you and your sister sharing that connection.

Welcome to the retro Dna club
Not sure exactly what it means-but seems to often be found in combination with other Reptilian activators.

Maybe being retro it points to a genetic 'callback' within your Dna 'library' - a bringing forth and manifestation of genetic material from long ago, or long unused, but carried in your genetic line.

Glaucus - thank you for providing such great information on the indigo phenomenon, and the neurodivergent tribe. You are truly a torch bearer.

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Quinnie- interesting indeed.
There's that air sign connection again.
I think you may be onto something with the Atlantis linking.

As to the Aquarius connection- as onruledbymars already mentioned the Fixed axis zodiac signs are prevalent in both freemasonry imagery/old church constructs, and from what I know they are related to the foundations of Atlantis specifically - maybe as the reference as to what constituted the mix of races that eventually inhabited it -

Leo -> cat/lion people -> Egypt
Scorpio -> Reptilians -> Lemurians
Taurus -> (some say creatures like the mythological minotaur were hybridized on Atlantis-weakest link unless I'm being obtuse)
Aquarius for the actual Atlans, and other humanoids of mammalian descend?

It's frustrating, I know the answers are all there, but unraveling them is a trip and a half!

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posted March 01, 2009 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Redstar-

What is interesting about that is that we could get out of bed. But there was and still is a very intense attraction between him and I. Even a kiss is somewhat "magical" if that makes any sense. As if something takes over us and we loose ourselves in each other. To this day I think that is the main reason why he "ran". But after examining these aspects its obvious that it was for our soul growth. As that experience altered my consciousness and sent me through a radical transformation, that has been nothing short of amazing.

The retro DNA is very interesting. Your description made me think of a possibility that there is easier access to the Akashic Records which would be an invaluable tool in this time period. But I am sure more light will be shed on that soon. As consciousness evolves so will knowledge.

The foundations of Atlantis huh?
There is something there. Something profound.
The Bull,the Lion, the Man and the Eagle............ there lies a mystery that holds a profound seed of truth. My psyche has been struggling to re-Member that..... Do you feel the same energy around that thought?

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ORBM- Yes I do.

Thats why I found what both you and Darkdreamer had to say on the subject of Atlantis/energy/remembering so utterly fascinating.
It does feel like something is there, on the very edge of being revealed/remembered.


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I found that linking of the fixed signs to the ancient periods interesting.

I guess I would have the strongest link to Atlantis according to this, as my Moon is in Aquarius (conjunct my Ur - this old babylonian city) as well as Psyche / Talent / Urania, Sumeria and some others.

I feel that there is a definite connection between Atlantis and the babylonian period in my own chart.
Maybe two incarnations of mine that are connected to each other?

Interestingly that musical singer and me have a very strong emphasis on about 16 Aquarius, including our Composite Atlantis falling on the exact degree!

His SN conjuncts my Moon on 16 - 17 Aquarius, and his DNA on 14 - 15 Leo opposes it.
His name in his chart on 17 Scorpio and my name in my chart on 17 Taurus seem to have a connection, though a squre, also.
And there are many more hits.
And of course my awareness of that "connection" was raised several levels, when my progressed Venus and Mercury and Antivertex were on 16 Aquarius and transit Neptune was conjunct it. lol

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Redstar-
Good so I don't feel like I am crazy for feeling that way.
I am not sure how familiar you are with the Bible. But the fact that those four living creatures (cherubs) have that face is no coincidence. In fact get this. Rev 7 says that these four angels will standing upon the four corners of the Earth during our time period, holding tight the four winds of the Earth so that they don't blow upon the Earth. And while they are doing this another Angel ascends and tells them not to harm the Earth with these winds until 144,000 people have been sealed from Earth, sealed out of the 12 tribes of Israel, which represent the twelve signs of the Zodiac.
Interesting right. This may sound far fetch, but my intuition tells me that this is happening on Earth right now as as we speak.

I just looked up my closest soulmates. The people I have the most affection for and the stongest Metaphysical ties and this is interesting. All have an AC/DC on a fixed sign. 6 out of 8 of us have a fixed MC/IC/ and AC/DC.
Coincidence?

DD:
My NN/Musa/Hamumea is exactly quincunx 16 Aquarius.
And my Hermes is conjunct that.
Who is the singer DD? The way things look maybe one day I can help you meet them.
Are you having any dreams about you Babylonian life DD?
I have dreams of present Karma, so I know that I have to clear some more of that, and rid myself mostly of the guilt and shame that I carrying deep down for some past life, to clear the fog from my Neptune Conj Moon.
I think that is why that lady told me I need to do past life regressions. Have you ever done that?

What about you Red Star, how do you feel about past life regressions. Ever done it?

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Redstar and OneRuledByMars thanks for that info. I read a Rudolph Steiner book and it talked about the astrological ages and about the Atlantis civilisation being in the Leo age and so the link was there then, that the Leo/Aquarius (and now I know all the fixed signs) axis indicating past life in Atlantis. Now that we are entering the age of Aquarius that brings us right into the alignment of that axis again and so indicate a rememberance or reawakening of Atlantis. We are on the verge alright!

So retro dna could indicate genetic "callback" or possible reconnection to the Reptillian activators? Does that apply in any sign?

What does the Venus/Kaali aspect indicate (I think I'm getting confused)

"The fact that it is in Aquarius is no coincidence. Seeing as this adds a touch of genius to it"....
I'm thinking that Aquarius and Uranus (UR) holds the key to Atlantis and Lemuria. It's no great concidence that so many planets were in Aquarius as Lara said previously on this post... andd the above statement talks about Aquarius adding a touch of genius...(Genes).

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RedStar I looked at another chart and though I need the birth date to be confirmed, another person (involved in ritualistic practise) has Retro DNA in Libra

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DD you share a birthday (and GC conj sun) with not only brad pitt but keith richards, a man who has been guided by something out of this world for 65 years!!

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ORBM,

"Who is the singer DD? The way things look maybe one day I can help you meet them."
Well, I do not think you know him.
Besides I kinda already met him, of course only as a fan.
And if I am meant to meet him again, I will.
If not, it`s alright, too.

"Are you having any dreams about you Babylonian life DD?"
Not anymore. I do remember glimpses though. But not really like dreams, it feels more like "memories", memories of events that never happened (at least not in this incarnation), and yet they feel as real memories as the ones of this life. It`s kinda strange.
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Something else that is kinda strange. When we started talking here, I suddenly develope an almost obsessive liking for a TV-series: Stargate.
And I never liked it before!
Well, I did not watch it, cause I don`t know why I did not watch it, but now I`m pretty much obsessed with it. lol

EDIT:
ROFL
I just realized why I never developed any kind of crush for Richard Dean Anderson.
Cause I already have a man like him in my life. Actually without this man I wouldn`t be here today. It`s my Dad. He actually is only 2 days younger than Richard Dean Anderson; of course his ASC and Moon are different though.
Still, w hen I realized that, it made me laugh.

Sorry, I know this is WAAAY off topic, but just felt like I wanted to share it.

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hello,
i've been following this thread and i am interested in this topic though i'm sorry i don't have much to offer to the discussion.

i know a few people asked about retro DNA in libra and i just want to ask -

so this ties in with ritual abuse in childhood? in this incarnation or as in past incarnations?

i have retro DNA in libra conjunt retro asteroid kaali in libra .
i'm not so sure what to do with asteroids as i have slowly been picking them up through reading this board over the last few months.

i don't mean to interrupt the thread - just trying to make some sense for myself

thank you.

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DD OMG

"Something else that is kinda strange. When we started talking here, I suddenly develope an almost obsessive liking for a TV-series: Stargate.
And I never liked it before!
Well, I did not watch it, cause I don`t know why I did not watch it, but now I`m pretty much obsessed with it. lol"

I use to watch thay TV series faitfully because i adored the 1994 Movie then they made Stargate SG-1 the original series then the spin off series Stargate Atlantis! I have so many tapes and DVD's

ok bk on topic now sorry.

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posted March 02, 2009 04:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aqua:

"so this ties in with ritual abuse in childhood"
Why do you think that?

I don`t think that a thing like this can be seen in ONE placement / aspect alone, if it can be seen at all.

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posted March 02, 2009 04:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi darkdreamer -

i thought i read that somewhere through this post - i will have to look through it again.

i'm sorry - i think i just got confused - thank you!

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Hi aquarius4

Having retro DNA in Libra does not automatically predispose you to ritual abuse/etc.I don't think any one aspect can define something so sinister in a person's chart.

But for the purpose of this thread, the discussion of retro DNA and air DNA placements came about from people noticing a consistent pattern in charts of people who were exposed to such things as ritual abuse/etc.We are exploring possible astrological links in charts of people who we KNOW to be involved/be victims of these things.
Obviously other factors in their charts work in conjunction with this.

I hope that helps you, and you are not interrupting- this is what this thread is here for, so people ask questions and comment on observations/personal experiences

Quinnie- I am beginning to think so, yes the retro allows for 'easier' access to those genetic factors that may trigger activation of reptilian dna in an individual, even if the immediate family do not display these traits in the least.
As long as they are there in their genetic history (and that pretty much means if you a human, then you are guaranteed to carry some amount of reptilian genetic information coded in your genetics somewhere).

In terms of signs- I simply don't know yet.
All the charts I have seen, and it is not that many, have been retro air or fire DNA.
But I could presume it could work itself through any sign, as long as other supporting factors are in place, such as Kaali/venus, kaali/sun etc.

DD- cute-Stargate oh my, whats next I think we have all had a heavy dose of that Aqua stellum earlier on in the week, and it's triggering all sorts of interesting developments in us. Fun times.

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thank you! - i definitely look forward to reading more of what everyone has to say on this subject - thanks for sharing!

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posted March 02, 2009 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also wanted to add a few things when I think of Atlantis, I think of the Underwater city.

I liked watching "Man from Atlantis" starring Patrick Duffy who is Pisces and was actually scuba diver before working on the show!

I also liked the superheroes, Aquaman and Namor aka Submariner...both aquatic superheroes.

I was fascinated by mermaids since childhood.

I even fantasized about my mom never knowing her mother because she was mermaid. hahahahaha

How is that for my Pisces Moon square Neptune! hahahahaha


I learned to swim when I was 3 years old,and it only took me a week to
learn how to swim. My stepfather threw me in the pool and I swam to
one of my stepsisters who taught me how to swim. My mother even said
that I was an excellent swimmer since 3 years old. I was even told
that I swam like a fish because I swam fast underwater. I have wide,flat feet, and I used them like flippers when I am underwater. Swimming was my favorite hobby in childhood. I went swimming with my friends. My best
swimming friend was a Pisces girl. My mother told me a friend of mine
drowned in a pond when I was little. I liked the show,"Man From
Atlantis",starring Piscean Patrick Duffy. I also loved reading and
watching shows,movies about mermaids as a kid. I have a Mermaid figurine on top of one of my bookcases. I was in the US Navy for 7 years. Glaucus is my online
nickname since 2000. Glaucus was name of a fisherman turned minor
seagod. Name is also known as Glaukos.

4660 Nereus is an asteroid named after the ruler of the Seas before
Poseidon took over,and he and 48 Doris were the parents of the Nereids
that included 29 Amphitrite(wife of Poseidon) and 17 Thetis(mother of
Achilles)
1198 Atlantis is named after the legendary continent that sank in the
ocean. 224 Oceana seems to be named after Oceanus was one of the Titans

Nereus in 13'33 Sagittarius in 4th
Ascendant in 13'27 Virgo
Poseidon in 12'42 Aquarius in 5th
Thetis in 12'33 Leo in 11th
Atlantis in 12'18 Sagittarius in 4th
Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini

Mars in 25'54 Aquarius in 6th
Glaukos in 26'04 Libra in 2nd
Amphitrite in 26'27 Leo in 12th

Oceana in 0'26 Virgo in 12th
Pluto in 0'51 Libra in 1st
Neptune in 2'48 Saggitarius in 3rd

Doris in 18'03 Sagittarius in 4th
Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio in 3rd

minor aspects:
Glaukos sesquiquadrate Midheaven - '10
Mars quintile Nereus - '21
Pluto quintile Nereus - '42
Pluto quintile Atlantis - '33
Uranus semisquare Oceana - '09

kuiper object(possibly Oort Cloud object) Sedna is named after the Inuit Sea Goddess

Sedna in 2'06 Taurus
Moon in 3'11 Pisces

Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude):
Sun oppose Sedna - '44
Moon sextile Sedna - '39


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posted March 02, 2009 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD-
You crack me up with the Stargate comment.
Its very interesting that that you all of a sudden like it.
I didnt know that it had something to do with Atlantis til I read what Quinnie wrote.
Interesting.

Redstar-
Do you think that DNA conjunct Kaali would have the same affect of activating the DNA as retro?

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ORBM,

well, I wasn`t necessaarily thinking of Atlantis.

But come on, hostile ET`s, dressed up as Egyptian Gods, come to different planets, making the people worship them and enslave them?

Reminds you of something?

(Oh and their uniforms seem to have the form of a snake)

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Here is something interesting:
Asteroids that relates to draconic energies:

Drakonia 620
Drake 9022

[Drake means dragon, old meaning serpent]

So far they are bang on aspecting either sun/angles or important planets/points in the same charts that have the prominent KAALI or KAALI/venus/pluto etc ties.
I've gotten hits with all the charts I have.

Drake conjuncts my sun exact, Draconia opposes my ASC/conjuncts DC exact.

Interested in hearing what others have.

{Admittedly that is quite a small sample size that I have so far tested this on, but maybe there is something there?}.

EDIT: Thank you DD for correction

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Redstar,

Drake is 9022, Musa is 600.
Funny though Drake is conjunct Musa in my chart. Did you know this?


Drakonia on 15 Pisces conjuncts my Juno, trines my Saturn, squares my Karma, widely squares my Kaali, exactly trines my Siva.


Drake on 23 Libra conjuncts DNA on 20 Libra, and also conjuncts Babel and Babylon and Musa.

It doesn`t aspect angles though.


I`ve checked Jude`s chart, too, as he seems to have strong Kaali-interaction.

'Drakonia on 13 Libra (bang on my Aphrodite and exactly trine my Kaali. lol) exactly sextiles his Venus (which opposes my Kaali), opposes Chiron.

Drake on 13.5 Gemini sits near to his DSC on 9 Gemini and conjunct his Saturn (it also conjuncts my Kaali / Inanna exactly) and opposes his Venus.

So in his case those two seem to be tied to Venus.


Let`s look at my youngest bro´s connections.

OH MY GOD!

Drake sits exactly on his Sun exactly conjunct my Drakonia.
His Draconia conjuncts his Chiron.

But that Sun-Drake-conjunction - WOW. That`s really strange.


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Lol DD thats funny stuff - your musa on drake
and my ineptitude at number entering-I like your precog/psychic take on it better .

You still have the square to karma, and wide kaali square.And look at all those Babylonians trying to sneak in!Hmm

(One day we have to do a thread on your Babylonian asteroid I think it will be phenomenally interesting and educational.If you are game)

Hmm Jude - he is definitely suspect now!

Wow about your brother- I was going to ask you to check his chart!

*cue twilight theme tune*

Ok still figuring this one out..

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