posted February 21, 2009 06:31 AM         

For details of Siva-Kaali:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/020041.html

posted February 21, 2009 06:57 AM         

Siva - An Illustrated Lecture On Natural Science Reveals Little-Known Aspects Of Life

Kaali - A Group Of Immigrants As They Fulfill The Requirements Of Entrance Into The New Country

Kaali, an all-powerful goddess of endings and new beginnings must have an influence of new beginnings in my life. This is interesting as I have 'started' in many aspects throughout my life. I seem to have a 4 year cycle where something significantly new will start up in my life. I wonder if Kaali is influenced in a 4 yearly cycle.

posted February 21, 2009 07:15 AM         

I have Kaali and KArma trine. Kaali and Pluto trine. Siva and Kaali in a very wide trine. Kaali conjunct north node located on 12 pisces

( In The Sanctuary Of An Occult Brotherhood, Newly Initiated Members Are Being Examined And Their Character Tested )

and Siva on 4 of scorpio
A Massive Rocky Shore Resist The Pounding Of The Sea

Someone offering help on how to interpret these?

For the record sabian symbols of my true node, Mars and AC are spot on.

and Koi, thnx for linking the thread I keep forgetting to check the AStrology 1 board for info

posted February 21, 2009 07:29 AM         

This is what redstar mentions on iqhunk's thread:

quote:

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So far what I have gathered is the presence in the natal of Venus/KAALI and Pluto/KAALI would indicate the predisposition to having strong Reptilian DNA.

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posted February 21, 2009 07:46 AM           

OK I'll play:

Kaali Libra 13'04
[In the heat of the noon hour a man takes a siestas]

widely conjunct DNA 10'37r Libra
[A professor peeping over his glasses at his students]

opposite Venus 13'19 Aries
[A serpent coiling near a man and a woman]

all that making a T-square to

pallas 12'48 Capricorn
[A fire worshiper meditates on the ultimate realities of existence]

My Siva 28'35 Capricorn
[A woman reading tealeaves]

squares

Pluto 29'13r Libra
[Three mounds of knowledge on a philosopher's head]

posted February 21, 2009 08:08 AM           

You may have worked with the very strong creative/sexual/kaali energies in the past, tapping into them for renewal and transformation spiritually and physically.

Siva and Kaali trine would be a good aspect, giving you a balanced interplay of procreational forces and access to them.

Aspecting north node may mean it is your path
to continue following such studies, and continue learning about the potency of Kaali and the utilization of her energy in daily life.

Look into Tantric spirituality, see if it resonates with you.

posted February 21, 2009 08:14 AM         

Kaali
Sabian: The Harvest Moon Illumines A Clear Autumnal Sky
Conjunct - Ceres
Opposite - Pluto, Hekate, Modestia, Tristan, Stonehenge, Prosperin

posted February 21, 2009 08:18 AM         

And also thank you for the link. It's an amazing script. Very much worth to read

posted February 21, 2009 08:27 AM         

Your Kaali, Venus and Pallas all with a 1* T-square, have sabian symbols that refer to 'heat':

***heat of the afternoon sun (Kaali)
***a serpent loves heat(Venus)
***a fire worshipper (Pallas)

In my limited knowledge of Kaali is having divine ability to create endings for new beginnings, and Pallas is mainly about strength and wisdom, I wonder if associations with heat stimulate new deeper understandings and significant relationships, especially with women, for you.

Let's throw some visual ideas at you....

***wearing warm colours inspires you
***warming warm colours attracts people to you
***being in warm climates gives you vitality
***people from warm climates are attracted to you, or you to them
***bring warmth and therefore new life, to those when you travel, especially women
***you desire and will fight for independence if thwarted from it
***you can fight for passionate beliefs and could be a formidable opponent
***you are attracted to athletic women, or if you are a woman (sorry), you are physically strong
***your relationship will ultimately be passionate and full of transformational endings and beginnings

Here is another image to consider: Pallas as a fire worshipper is an awesome image. Pallas is witnessing the balancing effect of a sleepy Kaali in a relaxed content state, and the serpent offering it's divine wisdom to a soul-mate couple. Pallas in her power, is overseeing the peacefulness of Mother-Goddess supporting the serpent's activation of kundalini energy in lovers. Pallas upholds a flame of power of Olympian strength. There is a worship and perfect acceptance of divine soul mating.

Another image: Grandmother, parents and a strong vital daughter.

This is how your Siva/Pluto reads to me:

The three mounds of knowledge is the Past, Present and Future. The woman reading tea leaves is searching for knowledge of what was, what is and what will be. Pluto has underworld mysteries. You must be a seeker of truths. But I think the square means you are very knowledgable, but overwhelmed by how much information/clues there are to investigate.

posted February 21, 2009 09:13 AM           

For eg. Kaali = Sekhmet = Ishtar = relevant roman / greek goddess...

so depending on your Dna , if indian kaali, if middle eastern Ishtar, if roman / greek i suppose relevant goddess asteroid should be more powerfully affect you.

Indians have a higher % ge of reptitliann Dna thus Kaali should theoritically affect us or rather be more significant for us.

Those of european , say Swedish - hun ascent should dig deeper into the long forgotten lore and symbols and if asyeroids are available see if they have any impact.

Kundalini is of 2 types .

Kaali type and Parvati type ( Isis ).

Siva also has a negative face - Rudra which is should be even more strongly influential on Kundalini and in my natal and synastry with my twin its BIG.

posted February 21, 2009 09:28 AM         

My Kaali at 7 Leo Sabian is:
"THE CONSTELLATIONS OF STARS SHINE BRILLIANTLY IN THE NIGHT SKY."

It is:
Opposes Psyche at 7 Aquarius
Trine Mars at 7 Aries
Square Chiron at 8 Taurus
Quincunx Stonehenge at 7 Pisces
Quincunx Aura at 7 Pisces
Semi sextile Saturn at 7 Virgo
Semi Nefertiti at 7 Cancer

It forms a Yod with Psyche at 7 Aquarius
And Stonehenge and Aura at 7 Pisces.

Which just reinforces my obsession with Astrology, lol.

Siva is at 9 Cap, this Sabian is:
" ANGEL CARRYING A HARP"

It is:
Widely Trine my Angel at 11 Virgo
Square Isis at 10 Aries
Trine Chiron at 8 Taurus
Opposes Nessus at 10 Cancer

Wow these were very deep for me. I havent really looked at them that indept and they answered alot of questions. Thank you for the thread Koiflower.

Red Star my DNA is at 13 Libra. Awful close to yours. And conjunct your Kaali.
And my Isis at 10 Aries opposes it and so does my Lucifer at 11 Aries. Pluto is not far off at 17 Libra.

Interesting....

PeaceAngel:
I am curious.
What do Prosperinn, Magnama, mean?
Prosperin is at 9 Aries and is square my Siva at 9 Cap
Magnam at 13 Libra is conjunct my DNA.

I have an idea, but can you shine any insight on the meaning for me?
Thanks!

VenusdeIndia:
How does it work if you are a mixture of races.
IE:
African, Italian, British, Dutch, American Indian
I am approx 45 percent white, 40 African, and 15 percent Indian.

posted February 21, 2009 09:56 AM         

my siva is
A MOTHER LEADS HER SMALL CHILD STEP BY STEP UP A STEEP STAIRWAY.

posted February 21, 2009 10:14 AM           

Kaali "A Woman Draws Away Two Dark Curtains Closing The Entrance To A Sacred Pathway" hmmm i always liked this one.

Also i just realised my Mum has Kaali/Siva conjunct exact! 28' Libra! (conjuncts her Pallas but very widely)
Sabian "Mankind's Vast And Enduring Effort To Reach For Knowledge Transferable From Generation To Generation" wow and this conjuncts my DC by 1 degree.

posted February 21, 2009 11:09 AM           

Kaali:
A FAMOUS PIANIST GIVING A CONCERT PERFORMANCE

Siva:
CHILDREN PLAYING AROUND FIVE MOUNDS OF SAND

Rudra (on the same degree as Hekate)
AN EXPRESSIONIST PAINTER AT WORK

Parvati:
A MERMAID EMERGES FROM THE OCEAN WAVES READY FOR REBIRTH IN HUMAN FORM

Since I have pretty strong Egyptian and Babylonian asteroids, too, I thought I should take a look at them

Egyptian:

ISIS
AN ANGEL CARRYING A HARP

osiris
IN A SUNLIT HOME DOMESTICATED BIRDS SING JOYOUSLY

Sekhmet
AN OLD BRIDGE OVER A BEAUTIFUL STREAM IS STILL IN CONSTANT USE

Ptah
A HINDU YOGI DEMONSTRATES HIS HEALING POWERS

Babylonian:

Innanen:
A FAMOUS PIANIST GIVING A CONCERT PERFORMANCE

posted February 23, 2009 07:42 AM           

venusdeindia I think your theory is going places.
To me it makes great sense, the whole 'archetypal' correlation to our DNA, as seen through astrology with the help of asteroids.
I definitely want to hear more on this from you. Keep the insights coming

posted February 23, 2009 08:02 AM           

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Red Star my DNA is at 13 Libra. Awful close to yours. And conjunct your Kaali.
And my Isis at 10 Aries opposes it and so does my Lucifer at 11 Aries. Pluto is not far off at 17 Libra.

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Well my Venus would be sitting on your Lucifer then, with a lust/Mars/Vesta/Pholus conjunction to the left.
I think that might mean I could potentially develop a very Lust-fuelled, dedicated and impulsively passionate 'thing' for your isis/pluto
And that would either open up some doors, or I would be totally blind to it (pholus)
*kidding, kidding. Though I've got your Rising and moon placements, but my sun is more drippy and vague, one step to the left of your bold and beautiful Aries-Shiner*

aqua/scorp your mom's kaali/siva conjunction+sabian sound powerful.
Good idea to look at MP's, although sadly I am no expert in that area.

*looks around..where oh where are the knowledgeable hunks when you need them*

posted February 23, 2009 10:13 AM         

It's in my first house conjunct NN and Mars. Dane Rudhyar's interpretation that about how one fulfills an inner and/or divine revelation. Having that conjunct my Drive(Mars) and Direction in Life(NN) as well as it being in my 1st house seems to enforce its meaning in my life. There are periods I undergo transformation and receive revelations and then try to apply what I've learned.

Siva is in the last degree of Leo in my 6th House. Sabian symbol is AN UNSEALED LETTER.

Dane Rudhyar's interpretation is "The realization by the individual that all thoughts and all messages are inevitably to be shared with all men."
It's a rather amusing coincidence. Kaali in my 1st house of individuality denotes inner revelation and applying it in one's life, while Siva in my 6th house of service denotes that knowledge that I gained must be shared.

I'm still an amateur, inexperienced and foolish in many ways. How can I even begin to fathom all these?

posted February 24, 2009 11:38 AM         

Red Star-

" Lust-fuelled, dedicated and impulsively passionate 'thing'"

Does that mean we could have great sex?
lol

"Though I've got your Rising and moon placements, but my sun is more drippy and vague, one step to the left of your bold and beautiful Aries-Shiner*"

Be careful where you tread...Because I have a very sensitive Pisces Heart and Mind that you could easily trample on.
Don't let all that fire fool ya! I am all soak and wet on the inside

Does that make me a big ball of steam? lol

posted February 24, 2009 02:23 PM           

yes my Isis loves to play a song, especially for the Siva of nice people.

Interesting, I just noticed, that even though ther eis not such a strong theme like in Red Star`s Sabians, my seem to relate a bit to music or art in general, don`t you think?

Kaali and Innanen: A famous pianist giving a concert performance

Isis: An angel carrying a harp

Osiris: in a sunlit home domesticated birds sing joyously

Also, kinda funny, the musical singer which has left the deepest impression on me has his Moon exactly conjunct my DRACO Isis on the degree with the Sabian
"THE MUSIC OF THE SPHERES"

lol; don`t you just love astrology sometimes?

EDIT:
BTW the SAbian of my Eros is:
A FAMOUS SINGER IS PROVING HER VIRTUOSITY DURING AND OPERATIC PERFORMANCE

posted February 25, 2009 02:47 AM           

"aqua/scorp your mom's kaali/siva conjunction+sabian sound powerful.
Good idea to look at MP's, although sadly I am no expert in that area.

*looks around..where oh where are the knowledgeable hunks when you need them*"

I must admit i was pretty blown away my the Sabian of this conjunction!

"[thats a pretty good looking chart you have there-will comment soon, have to run now.]"

Oh that would be great, thank you.

posted February 25, 2009 06:36 AM           

I KNOW this is my last earth lifeline - so far the most dramatic also

Guys, on what i said earlier. Dna is very powerful and over the years of racial mixing the original DNA of indigenous groups that the legends applied to is also diluted in effect. I would say that the genetics MOST prominent in your physiology should be more powerful in your Makeup.

Kundalini is a code that unlocks our Dna - that is different for us asian ones with higher reptilian dna - thus Kaali is more important for us , i think.

The sumerian goddess Ashtar is also very powerful and the early Sumeriuans have spread all over the world in terms of Dna mixing.

Same for Norse,Anglo Saxon legends. I am not that knowledgable about them though.