posted February 28, 2009 06:57 PM         

Yes, this Cancer Plork is so the "everyman"! A friend of mine told me he has had so many girls. This other guy I know who's a Cancer is a club promoter, everytime he sees me, he tells me he's not really a "party" guy, meanwhile every other day he's posting pics on facebook of a party where's he grinding like 3 girls at once! haha. He SOOO plays the "sensitive" card too!

Whatever happened to Cancer being the symbol of "Loyalty". That's what all the astrology books describe them to be like.

posted March 01, 2009 10:24 PM         

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Whatever happened to Cancer being the symbol of "Loyalty". That's what all the astrology books describe them to be like.

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Oh, I don't doubt that Cancers are fully loyal once they've decided to give themselves to a person. However, this requires them to be vulnerable, and, in my experience, it can be hard for them to handle this vulnerability with a partner. Until they are ready to get past that scary vulnerable phase in a relationship they won't fully commit to a person.

posted March 01, 2009 11:06 PM         

Seriously, with the heavily Cancer-influenced, it's less that we're loyal and more that we're clingy and tenacious.

With other loyal influences (a Cancer/Taurus mix, for example), Cancers can be loyal. But even after years of involvement, some Cancers feel so emotionally insecure that they still get passive-agressive. It's less that they're loyal and more that they'll spend years working to get loyalty from their partner in order to feel emotionally safe.

A friend is engaged to a Cancer man. For the first five years they were together, he insisted on seeing other people. When she finally got fed up and left him and met someone new and felt pretty secure and happy, THEN he begged her to come back and said he was ready to commit. (He had the nerve to blame her for his not being ready before.)

posted March 02, 2009 12:03 AM         

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Whatever happened to Cancer being the symbol of "Loyalty". That's what all the astrology books describe them to be like.

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Well for me, I don't think I could handle so many people at the same time. I mean yeah, my gemini venus likes to party but my hermit virgo moon also needs alot of time to itself. This has always been sort of an internal conflict with me. That being said, its all in the nature of 'contract'. In the nature of fairness of my 7th house sun: If we agree to be exclusive, then there is your loyalty in the 'physical' sense. The catch is, like echantress says, I kind of have to *give* myself fully to you first....which happens rarely.

But other than that, I'm just the single hermit. I've never actually just 'dated' before for the sake of it...that's an alien concept to me as I, personally, couldn't really share that kind of intimate time with someone unless I was really into them. And if I'm really into them, I usually end up wanting to be with them anyways. I don't need a string of dates to figure that out. LOL

You know, I once heard that conflicting moon and venus signs could make loyalty very difficult for a guy, since it would represent conflicting wants and needs for them. I dunno, I'm just bringing up this possibility since your Plork has a gemini venus and virgo moon.

posted March 02, 2009 12:23 AM         

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I've never actually just 'dated' before for the sake of it...that's an alien concept to me as I, personally, couldn't really share that kind of intimate time with someone unless I was really into them. And if I'm really into them, I usually end up wanting to be with them anyways. I don't need a string of dates to figure that out. LOL

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Cancer Venus-Moon-Saturn in the 7th here, Sun-Mars-Merc in the 8th. I've always just sort of fallen into intense relationships with people I was already really crazy about.

The whole idea of "dating" is so alien to me. If I hang out alone and have dinner with someone and walk around the city, it means I LOVE them as a friend. If we hold hands or kiss, is means I love them as a friend, PLUS I am wildly attracted to them. At the very least. To me, that stuff comes after there is a deep connection and attraction. If I spend that kind of time with someone, it means at the very least I already think he's wonderful and I want him in my life.

Holding hands with someone and spending hours together and never calling? I don't understand the Plork.

posted March 02, 2009 12:02 PM         

So when we went out that Friday and had that WONDERFUL time, he actually called me the very next day (saturday) and asked me to come out on another date with him that night to a show. He also texted me, that he had a wonderful time with me the night before. So sweet!

Here's the kicker though, my phone service was out the whole weekend so I didn't get his voice mail or his text message until Monday night! I texted him that I'm sorry to have missed the show, and I hope he had fun. But I didn't tell him that my service was out and I didn't get his voicemail until later. He made it a point to text back that he had "LOTS" of fun.

Then he texted me again this past Thursday, and that's when we sort of had a fight, and I gave him some Gemini attitude. (I was a little drunk, and I get all retarded when I'm drunk) The next day I emailed him an apology for my behavior. Never heard from him again. You would think he would be able to send me a quick email to tell me I'm forgiven, especially since I totally humbled myself and apologized. But apparently he hates me or something. Cancers can be COLD! Brrrrrr....I'm feeling the ice right now. How do you leave someone hanging when they apologize?

Oh well, I guess it's over. That's what strange to me too...how do you like someone one minute, then slam the door in their face the next? Are Cancer's vengeful?
BTW, he's a Gemini Venus but it's 0 degrees in Gemini, right on the Taurus cusp. I don't know if that gives him some "slow, cautious" Taurus qualities.

I'm trying to apply the "He's just not that into you" reasoning in that if he's not calling me, or emailing me back, then he's just not that into me.

posted March 02, 2009 04:03 PM         

He just sends me an email, saying he hopes I had a fantastic weekend, and starts telling me about his day, AS IF NOTHING HAPPENED last week! He didn't even acknowledge my apology email, which he never bothered replying to. It took a LOT of pride swallowing for me to write that.

posted March 02, 2009 04:28 PM         

And judging by whats happened, perhaps he does like you and wants to forget about what happened. The business of apologies is never easy for a guy, and it can be *excruciating* for a cancer...so double awkward. That is still kind of weird though, you would expect some kind of reference to something like that.

posted March 02, 2009 04:30 PM         

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how do you like someone one minute, then slam the door in their face the next?

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posted March 02, 2009 05:09 PM         

I thought I had a wall! This guy has the super great wall of China going on! I can't even see inside.

Dulce, who's Rg?

He has conflicting Moon and venus, in Virgo and Gemini! The two are very different but similar in that they are both mercurial. I am a triple Gemini with Saturn in Virgo in my 1st house squaring my Sun and Mercury. My chart is a big ole square between Gemini and Virgo. LOL!

posted March 02, 2009 08:36 PM         

I texted him on Thrusday to come out for Happy hour drinks, but he rejected me saying he had to have dinner with clients. That was a rejection. Why does he only get to be the one who's sensitive to rejection? He's the guy, remember? LOL!!

So I sent him an email as a "test" just talking about my day, blah, blah, blah, but I casually slipped in there the whole phone not working incident and told him I'm looking for a new service. If he's still all mysterious and aloof, then I know he's just not that into me. But if he asks me out after that, I am totally going to let it all hang out and be open from now on. No more mysteries or games. Thanks for the advice girls!

And bunnies, what you said about "Have a face to face relationship people that's how it used to be done." I wish it was still done like that nowadays. Unfortunately, it's not...it's all txt messages and emails. Barely any phone calls anymore.

Fingers crossed.

posted March 03, 2009 01:16 AM           

I just read through your thread and I have to say I really like Peri's 2 posts on this page. They're short... but to the point and what I would've contributed myself if she hadn't already. Especially her first one where she quotes you is bang on.

I'm a capricorn guy so very different from a cancer but even I'd probably be acting in the same sorta way if not cut you out all together after having done what you did (Sure it's AT&T's fault but he didn't know that and still you only referred to it briefly in your last email) and never bothered explaining it.

posted March 03, 2009 10:18 AM         

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Dulce, who's Rg?

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posted March 03, 2009 11:40 AM         

He emails and texts me once in a while to touch base, but hasn't asked me out again.
How do you nudge a Cancer? LOL!

posted March 03, 2009 08:05 PM         

You're a sweetheart, there's no need to let yourself get all worked up
He's obviously interested - just give it time, he'll ask you out again. All that texting stuff is hard to decipher and can be far too confusing...and makes it easy to assume the worse (which, by the way, you are doing). If a Virgo is telling you you're picking things apart and worrying too much, then you are. Try and relax.
And for goodness' sake, don't text or have convos after drinking - especially not so early in the game!

Take a deep breath and relax. It will be fine, and it will work out well, and he will ask you out again.

posted March 03, 2009 08:19 PM         

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Dulce, what was that little *le sigh* for Cancerrg about? Do you miss him?

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posted March 03, 2009 10:48 PM         

LOL!!

I don't know who worries more, Gemini or Virgo? We mercurial girls can be quite anxiety ridden, can't we? I know I am. I am so bad at the waiting game.

Dulce, I don't remember Cancerrg, I guess he hasn't been on recently. We need more men on this forum.

I know I should listen to you guys and chill out! haha. He emailed me back today. He said I'm forgiven for my "attitude" Thursday night. And he emailed me again about getting the service on my phone changed so I don't miss anymore messages. His tone was so much "softer" in those emails.

posted March 04, 2009 07:44 PM         

We've been emailing back and forth, which is nice because I feel like I'm getting to know him better. It doesn't feel like he's any closer to asking me out though.