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Peri
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posted March 04, 2009 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.iol.ie/~taeger/articles/hypchi-e.htm

Hypnos represents the mind of the white Buddha Vairocana (ether element) who has his equivalent in the Hindu god Brahma and his different Nirvana-levels. What a coincidence between three world religions! To break the magical circle of death and rebirth, it is a main goal of Buddhist psychology to merge one's mind completely with the Clear Light! In failing this the mind is in danger of following the reverse process back into the elements and senses, dualistic thinking, illusionary dream pictures, etc., looking for rebirth and coming under the influence of Morpheus and the 'World af the Young Gods'. So the highest goal af Buddhist yogis is to train their minds in reaching the meditative balance (Samadhi, Mahamudra, Tzogchen, Tao) learning certain techniques of dream yoga, working with the inner elements, trying to bring together the Kundalini energy into the heart chakra, using sexual visualizations or deity mandalas, losing the fear of death, trying to pre-experience the different Bardos.

Through the discovery of Hypnos we have found a very important (if not the most important) key which enables one just by simple calculation to find suitable times for coming into contact with states of enlightenment (-in the truest sense of the word). I don't want to exclude Pluto (!), Neptune and Uranus transits, but their energies invoke more certain levels of archetypes of the Sambhogakaya or dream states, enforce mind activities of special chakras or initiate ego transformations, but they don't lead to direct experiences of Emptiness. Following my own experiences with Hypnos, which in many cases didn't occur during meditative training, I found that it is possible, even for 'non-believers', to verify empirically different Bardo states which are the very fundaments of the Indo-Tibetan depth psychology! There is a surprisingly strong intercultural connection between the esoteric teachings of the East and the West, between Hesiod's 'Theogony' and 'The Tibetan Book of the Dead'!

Besides the most important esoteric value caused by the core of the comet Hypnos, he also effects very strongly the exoteric developments by his tail. Therefore the study of Hypnos is equally important for all kinds of astrologers, scientists, meditation practitioners, psychologists, etc.. Following Hypnos needs a lot of encouragement and bravery because he catapults you out of the usual orbit of your ego's thinking and feeling habits. In a philosophical sense he might even question the status of the ego itself. He is capable of bringing it to a standstill and of conquering time and space. In this way he can be seen equally as an enemy as well as a helpful friend to our Western culture which is based upon an exaggerated ego-cult and an extreme Nirvana-fear! This ego-cult can cause a lot of suffering and wrong views and needs a revision and careful investigation by our modern thinking. 'To be and not to be, that is the answer!'

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posted March 04, 2009 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. Hypnos is quite prominently placed in my chart and I find it to be more powerful than it's given credit for.

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posted March 04, 2009 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey Tiger, care to share your experience with it?

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posted March 04, 2009 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Here's my story: I'm a musician - singer, songwriter/composer, and I play the piano and guitar, and a few other instruments.

Music/artisitic ability combined with powerful themes of magick, power and trance-inducing is quite prominent in my chart:

My Scorpio Neptune/MC conjunction is the tightest aspect in my chart. (Neptune rules Music and other Artistic endeavors.) Also conjunct my Neptune/MC are Orpheus (the son of the Greek Muse Calliope and Apollo, the Greek God of Music - Orpheus was the greatest musician and poet of Greek myth and had the ability to "charm" and hypnotise with his singing and music) and Draconic Euterpe (the Greek Muse of Music). Trining that stellium is Hypnos.

Other important placements in my chart relating to the theme of Music and Art combined with Magick, power and trance-inducement: my Cancer Sun and Mercury are conjunct Apollo (Greek God of Music), Sappho (Greek Goddess of poetry and lyrics), Forte, Thule, Draconic Samadhi, Draconic Beethoven, and my NNode/MC midpoint; and that stellium trines my Pisces Pallas and Draconic Kalliope. My Virgo Moon and S Node are conjunct Musa and Draconic Nada (Nada represents OM, the "music of the spheres" or Divine Music). My Gemini Karma is conjunct Hathor (Egyptian Goddess of Music), Sekhmet, and Varuna (Supreme Vedic God of the Cosmos; can also indicate immortality through fame and/or noteriety) - this Karma/Hathor/Sekhmet/Varuna placement scares me because I have a huge fear of fame and I've had a taste of it so I really know I don't want to be "famous". My Leo DNA is conjunct Venus, Dark Moon Lilith, Draconic asteroid Lilith, Draconic Iris (Greek Goddess of the Rainbow; Messenger), Draconic Hypnos, Draconic Picasso, and my NNode/ASC midpoint; that stellium trines a conjuction of Draconic Neptune, Draconic MC and Draconic Orpheus in Sagittarius. I also have a Grand Trine of Mars, Melpomyne (The name means "the songstress" - she is the Greek Muse of tragedy (theater) and chanting) and my arabic Part of Art in Cancer.


My whole life was once devoted to music, particularly to singing, playing the piano, and composing. I lived Music, I breathed it, I was it. When I was younger I trained vocally for several years and also studied at Tanglewood one summer with the Boston Symphony in the Singers/Vocal program. When I sing and play my music people tell me (and show me) it takes them to a trance state. Indeed, I have literally had such an extreme reaction by others to my singing and my music that it freaked me out and I gave it all up for several years (and am only now slowly getting back into it, now that I can put it out there anonymously, via the internet - on MySpace as an anonymous "band", for example - and therefore avoid people's extreme reactions).


Besides being a musician/singer, I'm also an artist - painting, fine art photography and jewelry design ( you can see some of my art and photography at www.kimberlydickinson.com and at http://www.flickr.com/photos/tigerlily7007/sets/ ).


Anyway, in regards to Hypnos, I've always interpreted it to be an indicator of the ability for hypnosis, trance, trance-inducement, and psychic dreams. Hypnos trine all those music-themed planets and asteroids has definitely reflected the hypnotic and trance-inducing effect my music and singing had on others.


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posted March 04, 2009 12:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, Tigerlily, that was really a breathtaking - or should I say: hypnotic - read.

I love the way you weaved it all together. I think the composer shines through here.

Personally I find Hypnos fascinating, I always have related it to my dreams, which can be at times even psychic.
I know Hypnos is on 6 Leo and trines IC on 5 Aries and Mars / ASC on 5 and 6 Sagittarius.

I think I`ll have a look at some more asteroids. Since music always manages to get me in that trance, I think I`ll start with the ones you posted, Tigerlily.

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posted March 04, 2009 01:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hypnos is very powerful indeed. Natives with HYPNOS conjunct/trine/sextile SAMADHI will easily get in to trance state.

TigerLily, that was a great post, I am saving it in my research folder

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posted March 04, 2009 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Hypnos conj Jung conj Merc R6, and MC ruler is Pluto in the 8th, would make a good hypnotherapist??

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posted March 04, 2009 01:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Hypnos 8' Taurus conjunct Parvati which oppositions my Moon/Pluto, sqaure Siva/Mercury and trine MC/Neptune.

Edit:Its strange as this asteroid was on my mind today again after i saw a hypnotherapist on television also what would asteroid Jung represent in ones chart? As its conjunct my Sun in Aquarius by one orb.

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posted March 04, 2009 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ, I've been hard at work for the past several months trying to create a master compilation of info on asteroids by theme and I'd like to send it to you for your notes. I have your website bookmarked so I'll get your email from there and send you the info as soon as I can.

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posted March 04, 2009 02:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have some kind of Star of David including Hypnos:


Hypnos on 6.1 Leo

Mars on 5.1 Sagittarius
Polyhymnia on 6.1 Sagittarius
Beatles on 6.3 Sagittarius
ASC on 7.0 Sagittarius

IC on 4.5 Aries
Aura on 4.5 Aries
Sirene on 8.1 Aries

Begees on 6.4 Aquarius. lol

MC on 4.5 Libra

Fama on 6.5 Gemini
Varuna on 6.1 Gemini
DSC on 7.0 Gemini
Draco Moon on 6.5 Gemini


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DNA / Musa / Sappho stellium in Libra opposign Chiron / Phoinix

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Orffr on 15.0 Cancer
Saturn on 16.9 Caner

trine

Juno on 16.9 Pisces


Thule on 15.3 Capricorn

trine

Minnesang on 18.4 Taurus
Costello on 17.4 Taurus
my nameasteroid on 16.9 Taurus


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Loreley on 23.5 Scorpio
Piaf on 25.4 Scorpio
Dr Hypnos on 25.5 Scorpio
Valentine on 27.3 Scorpio

trine

Cantor on 25.1 Pisces
DR ASC on 26.5 Pisces

trine

Carusi on 26.2 Cancer


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Hathor / Forte trine Jupiter / Melpomene


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Orpheus / Pallas trine Pluto trine SN
Orpheus / Pallas sextile NN / Neptune / ASC / Angel

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Apollo / Iris / Union in Libra sextile Nada in Leo and Sekhmet / Sun in Sagittarius

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posted March 04, 2009 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tigerliliy , Wauw. That is really impressive

I read that hypnos is connected to dreams some time back. And since I'm fascinated by them for many years ( I even want to make a career out of it. ) I was expeting it to be prominent in my chart.

Unfortunately I make no link to Hypnos. Mine is retrograde on 5 of Leo with it's only aspect being Trine to Mars.

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posted March 04, 2009 02:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TigerLily, thanks in advance! You are an angel

<< I have Hypnos conj Jung conj Merc R6, and MC ruler is Pluto in the 8th, would make a good hypnotherapist?? >>
ABSOLUTELY! You also have to learn Neuro Linguistic Programming, many free web resources on that.

AquaScorp, I sent you your Name Lexigram, it is amazing! JUNG conj Sun enables easy learning of Jungian works including Kundalini, Subjective Reality, Collective Unconscious etc.

Astrological Secret:
Sigmund Freud's Sun exactly conjunct Jung's Moon.
Freud was all about Complexes and External impact of Sex, Jung was about Human Inner Consciousness and Sexual Power channelled from inside [Kundalini].

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posted March 04, 2009 02:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi IQ! I'm quiet blown away by the Lexigram! I get the air of a "spiritual mission" when i saw this.

Asteroid Jung is very interesting to me..i shall look this up further (Carl Jung)

Thanks again

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posted March 04, 2009 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Milton Erikson had Moon near Hypnos, I don't know his time of birth but I am sure they must be tightly conjunct

Carl Jung had Hypnos conjunct Mercury (3)

haha, I just checked my friend's Picasso and he has it on NN widely conj Sun (4) and he also has Talent on MC + Venus conj Pluto in the 2nd: he is a very talented, well-paid painter

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posted March 04, 2009 05:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aqua Scorp,

I also have Jung conjunct Sun and Mercury with an orb of 1 - 2.

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posted March 04, 2009 05:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what do you think hypnos means when it conjuncts significant points in someone else's chart? that they inspire you to reach into higher dimensions or nirvana? or maybe you inspire them?

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posted March 04, 2009 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In romantic synastry, the planet person may feel 'hypnotized' by the Hypnos person, I think.

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posted March 04, 2009 05:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the Sabian of my Hypnos:

THE CONSTELLATION OF STARS SHINE BRILLIANTLY IN THE NIGHT SKY


I feel right at home at that degree.

EDIT:
Actually the other degrees of the planets / asteroids involved in the grand trines with Hypnos are interesting

IC / Aura 4-5 ARies
A triangle with wings

Sirene 8 - 9 Aries
a Chrystal Gazer

Varuna, Fama on 6 - 7 Gemini
A Well With Bucket And Rope Under The Shade Of Majestic Trees


MC: 4 - 5 Libra
A Man Revealing To His Students The Foundation Of An Inner Knowledge Upon Which A "New World" Could Be Built

Polyhymnia, Beatles on 6-7 Sagittarius
Cupid knocks at the door of a human heart

ASC, Angel on 7 - 8 Sagittarius
Within the depth of the earth new elements are being formed

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posted March 05, 2009 02:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[Proud daddy bragging...]

This cannot be topped. You can search all 6 billion natal charts of Earth Citizens...

My son has JUNG exactly conjunct Venus.
My daughter has JUNG exactly conjunct Mars.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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posted March 05, 2009 02:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Aqua Scorp,

I also have Jung conjunct Sun and Mercury with an orb of 1 - 2."

Yay go DD!

IQ! thats amazing about your son and daughter.

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posted March 05, 2009 02:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, IQ, your children`s aspects are just amazing.
What do you think it means`?

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Peri
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posted March 05, 2009 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jung emphasized understanding the psyche through exploring the worlds of dreams, art, mythology, religion and philosophy etc.

So having Jung conj any planet or asteroid may show how we can explore, express and understand better our inner world?

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posted March 05, 2009 03:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my bf has

JUNG(r)cj his MC in 19 Aries.

It Sextil his Moon and Valentine.Kikx his SAMADHI.

HYPNOS is right cj his NN and opose his Isis/Osiris cj.But sqaures his Moon and Merc...

I also have JUNG cj my NN.OPOSING my cupid and cj my Isis.

HYPNOS is sextil my Moon.

If i look to our draco sinastry:

His D.NN/Hypnos cj my D.JUNG 0
His SAMADHI/amor cj my D.Venus
His JUNG is cj my D.DSC

WHat is SAMADHI?

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posted March 05, 2009 05:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
samadhi another name for nirvana, no?

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posted March 05, 2009 05:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i dont know

but i like that -

means my bf reaches his nirvana by loving me!

Hihih

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