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songwriter
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posted March 10, 2009 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for songwriter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In Linda Goodman's Relationship Signs, for Sun-Saturn double whammy in a synastry, Linda says

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Should you be among those rare few with a double influence of this aspect between you (A' Saturn squares B' Sun, while at the same time B's Saturn squares A's Sun) then the bond linking you together, instead of being difficult to break, may be impossible to break, no matter how hard you may try to do so. If the latter is the case, good luck, and may you earn a thousand stars in your karmic crowns!

Do you find this statement true according to your own experience? Are these people still in your life? Or if you succeeded to dissociate yourself from them, could you please tell me how you did that??

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posted March 10, 2009 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
omg well personally l have had someone's sun on my saturn and it's nasty... mind you, my saturn is also conjunct my moon/venus/NN in tight orb.

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posted March 10, 2009 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this with my first love (whom I consider my soulmate). We have a Sun square Saturn double whammy, 0 degrees one way, and 2 degrees the other way.

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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon)
And yes, i'm a guy!

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savanna20
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posted March 10, 2009 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for savanna20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, still not over him! Sigh!

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posted March 10, 2009 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara, why did you find it nasty? Did he repress you or ...???

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posted March 10, 2009 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nyah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this aspect is like dead serious from day 1.. no "easy breezy cheer and chipper lallallaaa everything is fiiiiine" lol it hurts, it runs deep - but it's significant, powerful and binding... for good and bad.

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posted March 10, 2009 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for songwriter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, his Sun also conjuncts your Moon/Venus/NN

I think those other wonderful aspects between his Sun and your Moon/Venus/NN could help you a lot when dealing with a single Sun-Saturn aspect, Lara

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posted March 10, 2009 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, although his saturn was opposing my moon/venus/saturn/NN!

I'm sure it's great if your saturn or sun is singular but when it's involved in a heavy stellium it gets a bit yucky.

I certainly don't want someone's saturn conjunct or opposing my stellium... way too heavy and repressing.

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posted March 10, 2009 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swirl-kitt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is Sun Conjunct Saturn Whammy worse than Sun Square Saturn Whammy ? And are moon-saturn aspects even worse than that ?

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posted March 10, 2009 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know what it is, but Sun-conjunct-Saturn feels more oppressive to me than the opposition. I think of the conjunct as a vise, it clamps down. The square just sucks, but it's definite super glue, and there's still energy being generated. I have a peregrine sun, so sometimes the harsh aspects get my attention and feel more interesting than bad. The DW is definitely holding power, and karmic, and karma keeps you locked in.

Saturn/Moon is a different story. It's worse than the sun/Saturn, and doesn't strike me as super glue so much as quicksand.
But I really think it has to do with your own chart when it comes down to it. If you have Saturn/Moon in your chart, it won't be bad probably. If you have a well-aspected moon, or a nice, secure moon, maybe you don't mind so much.
I've got a 12th house Aries moon with only one major aspect from Uranus, so hard Saturn transits or another person's Saturn on it usually feels a little like hell. My moon is just too sensitive I think.

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posted March 10, 2009 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't want to be with somebody whose Saturn squares nor opposing my Sun especially the tight orbs because my Sun is conjunct Ixion(big kuiper belt object) with 5 minutes of arc and true Black Moon Lilith with 22 minutes.

Therefore, her Saturn would square my Sun-Ixion-true black Moon Lilith, and so it would seem a bit restrictive and aggravate my nonconformist,intensity,and sensitivity in a big way that I would feel like I am being oppressed and held prisoner, and so I would feel like I need to rebel against them and stand up for my rights. She might view me as too erratic,unstable,intense,otherworldly and so she could be very restricted,skeptical,critical towards me.

My Sun in 5'20 Scorpio conjuncts Quaoar in 2'22 Scorpio(a big kuiper belt object) with 2'58 orb with Sun/Quaoar midpoint in 3'51 Scorpio, and if Saturn is in 2'51 to 4'51 degrees Taurus, it will oppose my Sun/Quaoar midpoint. If Saturn is in 2'51 to 4'51 Leo,Aquarius will square my Sun/Quaoar midpoint.

It would feel similar to her Saturn making hard aspect to my Sun-Ixion

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posted March 11, 2009 12:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a sun-saturn conjunction, and he does as well. And these conjunct.

Further, my saturn conjuncts his venus. And my pluto conjuncts his sun and venus. His pluto conjuncts my sun.
In the declinations, his saturn parallels my sun, my saturn parallels his venus

breakable? no way jose. I figured if it doesnt work out I may not be able to move on. Brrr..

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posted March 11, 2009 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my case my Sun-Merc conjunction and Saturn are sextile exactly. In her chart, her Sun and Saturn are also sextile exactly.

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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon)
And yes, i'm a guy!

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posted March 11, 2009 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for songwriter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What can be done to cut loose from these people??

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savanna20
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posted March 11, 2009 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for savanna20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Accept the fact that you'll never really break away from them and to be okay with it. With my Taurus moon nature-I'm finding it hard to.

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posted March 11, 2009 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
21 years and I still love her...

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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon)
And yes, i'm a guy!

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posted March 12, 2009 07:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have sun-saturn DW with someone (trine and sextile), and we're great friends (though could have been more) and we have an extremely deep soul connection...

i met him about 7 months ago, and i hope we will remain close to each other in this life

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posted March 12, 2009 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for songwriter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
savanna20 & Got Gemini? -

girlloveboy-

You are so lucky to have the trine and sextile Sun-Saturn DW!!
Know your friend's worth and enjoy this great energy fully.

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posted March 12, 2009 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for songwriter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun-Moon (square-conjunction)
Sun-Mercury (square-sextile)
Sun-Saturn (square-opposition)
Sun-Uranus (sextile-trine)
Moon-Jupiter (square-opposition)
Moon-Uranus (trine-quincunx)
Moon-Neptune (square-trine)
Venus-Pluto (square-quincunx)
Mars-Uranus (sextile-conjunction)

With all these DWs, I am afraid I will never be able to forget this person.

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posted March 14, 2009 01:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My husband and I have a loose 7 degree opposition,, his Sun and my Saturn.

We are very dedicated to each other but I have to constantly act as a "parent" in order to get things accomplished.

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posted March 15, 2009 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well in my case I can say Saturn was not doing his job...I had all kinds of Saturn in synastry with the Pisces I just got over(sort of)including Sun/Saturn. And it seemed like I was the only one who felt any kind of attraction, very strong attraction. Considering the fact I don't even have any Saturn contacts in my own natal chart, and yet there was such pull towards him. So I am alittle miffed about the lack of 'promised' glue in this situation.

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

"I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me"

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posted February 01, 2024 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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93nov
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posted February 01, 2024 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn't call it rare at all lol. It's actually pretty common.. at least in my generation. 90-94ish.. or maybe my Saturian chart just attracts these types of relationships..

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posted February 01, 2024 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving this to Interpersonal Astrology.

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