posted March 14, 2009 05:11 PM              

I like this little gem from Jack

" for life is Holy and every moment is precious"

Jack lived a sacrificial life.He was not only a pisces,but a 12 in chaldean numerology another neptune connection (i.e. The sacrifice in tarot)

neptune is about ecstatic sacrifice.the last joy that life affords the wise. A last letting go,a compasssionate,caring dyonisian bridge to the divine.

Jack sacrificed himself into the endless eternity of love.

posted March 15, 2009 10:03 AM            

I was reading an article that was comparing the works of kerouac to kurt cobain.

In reality, both were VERY depressed people.
Kerouac also very depressed.Keroac died early in life because of alcoholism and also lived with his mother until his death. Very strange character. I think the REAL person of who kerouac truly was different from the characted portrayed in "on the road." He became disillusioned with the "beat" writers. Also a political conservative-this really surprised me.

posted August 25, 2012 10:54 AM            

This mutable emphasis in both charts, along with the scarcity of fire and cardinal signs, may explain the desire and difficulty both had about avoiding fame: fame is not likely to be natural to people without fire or cardinal planets

posted August 25, 2012 01:09 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
“What is that feeling when you're driving away from people and they recede on the plain till you see their specks dispersing? - it's the too-huge world vaulting us, and it's good-bye. But we lean forward to the next crazy venture beneath the skies.”
― Jack Kerouac, On the Road

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posted August 25, 2012 01:12 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
“What is that feeling when you're driving away from people and they recede on the plain till you see their specks dispersing? - it's the too-huge world vaulting us, and it's good-bye. But we lean forward to the next crazy venture beneath the skies.”
― Jack Kerouac, On the Road

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posted August 25, 2012 01:24 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
“What is that feeling when you're driving away from people and they recede on the plain till you see their specks dispersing? - it's the too-huge world vaulting us, and it's good-bye. But we lean forward to the next crazy venture beneath the skies.”
― Jack Kerouac, On the Road

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This kinda prove my theory that most literary figures hailed as heroes, are overrated, because I've read more profound things inside a Hallmark card...

As far as the Pisces association in all of this, I think that probably plays into it a bit with how Neptune is the ruling planet and associated with illusion and the ability to dazzle or mislead/confuse people. It makes perfect sense that a lot of the people heralded as being legendary in these fields despite the real ability to back that up, were Piscean or strongly Neptunian.

Cobain wasn't a very good writer either, or singer, for that matter. Just because he expressed pain doesn't mean that in terms of execution, his work was great. Same for Kerouac.

posted August 25, 2012 01:47 PM            

Cobain and Kerouac's abilities had so much NOT to do with misleading people. It was their power to communicate that made them "legends". Prolific. It was their ability to relate to others who felt the same (or to make others feel so) on such an extreme level - their words like the high note in an opera which pierces the listener's soul.

But, it also depended and still does depend on whether or not the listener is willing to appreciate the beauty of the high note - soak it in whether they can relate to the nature of the song or not; be willing to understand despite the fact.

posted August 25, 2012 01:56 PM            

-Kerouac, On the Road

One of my favorites. The beauty of it, to me, is that it says exactly how I felt about certain people I'm drawn to. My strange pattern of association.

It's the relevance and the aesthetic of its wording that gets to me - creates a bond between me and the author. Because that's what writing (true art in any form, really) is all about: bonding. Communicating with another. Creating a thread from you to someone else based simply on transfigured emotion.

<3

posted August 25, 2012 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Spellmaster257:
It's the relevance and the aesthetic of its wording that gets to me - creates a bond between me and the author. Because that's what writing (true art in any form, really) is all about: bonding. Communicating with another. Creating a thread from you to someone else based simply on transfigured emotion.

<3

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^^ this

Has anyone seen the movie yet? It'll be interesting to see how they adapted it, especially since it does lack a straightforward plot. We can pretty much agree that Sal was Piscean because he was essentially Kerouac's voice. Ginsberg/Carlo Marx was a Gemini, so maybe there is something to be said for mutable signs and the Beats.

posted October 16, 2012 07:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Alabaster437:
^^ this

Has anyone seen the movie yet? It'll be interesting to see how they adapted it, especially since it does lack a straightforward plot. We can pretty much agree that Sal was Piscean because he was essentially Kerouac's voice. Ginsberg/Carlo Marx was a Gemini, so maybe there is something to be said for mutable signs and the Beats.

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However, Ginsberg was a double Pisces (Moon and Ascendant) and he fits very well with the Piscean connection with the Beats, who were seeking mystical knowledge. He also had Mars conjunct Ascendant in Pisces - a very rare situation since Pisces is most infrequent sign for both Mars and (in the Northern Hemisphere) the Ascendant.