posted March 20, 2009 11:42 PM         

3rd house is associated with early education.
I was very secretive when I was in school in regards to early childhood special education past and the abuse that I suffered at home by my mother and stepfather. Because I was in the closet about my special education past, I had problems trusting and I would get suspicious of others. I pretty much had trust issues based on experiences with betrayal,trauma. It helped me understand the darkside of things. I can have a morbid sense of humor. I wasn't the type that was bothered by watching movies that involve horror,violence. I had the stomach for it.

It can be a good placement for research,investigation,psychology,occult,anything
that involves getting below the surface and uncovering things.

Raymond

posted March 20, 2009 11:57 PM         

I also suspect that Pluto's fellow kuiper belt objects can indicate the same thing too........especially the big plutinos (have 2:3 resonance with Neptune like Pluto) like Orcus and Ixion.

posted March 20, 2009 11:59 PM           

so wow, yeah a lot of that seems to relate to him. he is EXTREMELY attentive toward me. i think some of that is his moon (aries) in the 7th, and his rising and venus in libra, as well. the "problem" i seem to be having of late is that he asks me questions about how i'm feeling all of the time, and he's so aware of my emotions and when i am not totally in the moment and calm and connected to him. he geniunely cares and it actually feels SO good that he's so focused on me, but i really am not used to it.. and sometimes my talking about myself so much vs. his quiet, focused attention, makes me anxious because i'd rather be asking questions about HIM, to understand HIM. haha.

posted March 21, 2009 12:05 AM           

How do mercury in scorpio think?

Like a film Noir detective with a tendency to paranoia and uncanny insight into truth. (complete with black+white vision).

You've already experience the relentless focus and concentration mercury in scorpio people can bestow on those who have managed to catch their attention.

Being energetically in a square configuration it should be of no surprise to you that your thinking may take drastically different routes, but you will end up with similar conclusions/results in the end.

Aqua and Scorp have this strange relationship, where they are more alike then
one is lead to believe, they are even mirror signs in antiscia, meaning they are linked in a manner.

Best just be yourself, and be aware that the scorpio mind works in mysterious and profound ways that may not make logical sense to you, but nevertheless is just as valid a mental capacitor as the rest of the 12 sign placements

My only advice, is be real and honest in your communication, (emotional intensity and passion help too)-even bending the truth is discouraged, as that tends to get their goat, and they can always tell when you are insincere.

posted March 21, 2009 12:10 AM         

I always consider affinities when looking at synastry. Stephen Arroyo wrote the importance of affinities in his book,RELATIONSHIPS AND LIFECYCLES.

I don't put much emphasis on zodiac sign placements. I actually believe that planetary aspects are more significant than planets in signs. I have even considered the constellation placements. constellation placements aren't the same as sidereal zodiac placements because there are 13 constellations that are uneven compared to the even 30 degree zodiac signs.
I have doubts of using tropical zodiac placements for people born in southern hemisphere because tropical zodiac is based on the northern hemisphere seasons.

My Sun is in tropical Scorpio,and it's in Libra in sidereal zodiac. However, it's in the constellation of Virgo which is the largest zodiac constellation. My Sun could have a combination of Scorpio from the tropical and Virgo from the constellation.

posted March 21, 2009 01:47 AM           

that is so interesting about the affinities! it's funny cuz people seem to think i'm a really intense person, though i don't feel particularily scorpionic. however, thinking about it more, it makes sense, but more on an unconscious level. hmmm.. i will have to read up more on that.

on that note, would he have these affinities then? venus in cancer, moon in taurus/libra, moon in aquarius, venus in aquarius, venus in sagittarius? that's interesting (if i'm getting this right) because i have a couple of those myself! i actually used to have that book, but unfortunately never had a chance to read it before i lost it.

do semisextiles count for affinities? i have pluto semisextile my uranus in scorpio as well.

posted March 21, 2009 01:55 AM           

uranus and venus in cancer
jupiter in libra and/or taurus

right?

posted March 21, 2009 02:14 AM           

My aqua Mercury trines Pluto
(Pluto contra parallels and sesquiquadrates sun exactly), and I am surrounded with Mercury in Scorp individuals, so this is just my humble experience.

They most definitely can make you feel dismantled and their penetrative inquisitions into the very core of your being leaves nothing unprobed and unexplored.

See, I think they like having full knowledge
of the most intimate and secretive aspects of their partners, I'd say they even NEED it - but it does tend to be very one sided, as they do not easily allow you the same freedom and access of exploration to their own depth. It usually takes time and trust, and some more time, but thats how you know they are serious about you - when they start consciously letting you in, and allowing you to investigate their inner depth.

posted March 21, 2009 02:25 AM           

thanks redstar.. that's all good to know! funny though cuz perhaps it's my affinities that make me want to understand HIM on such a deep level too. but i suppose natal placements trump affinities, so it's only fair. also his affinity to venus in cancer is adding another dimension to this, most certainly!! and yeah, he tells me that he's let me in more than he lets anyone in, and when he does, he really does let me in deep. i'm trying to figure out how to quell my insatiable curiosity about him AND give him all the info he wants, but IN a more succinct way (i can babble on and on, which can actually take away from my feeing of connectedness to him, since it's often the painful stuff he wants to understand), AAAAAND trust this whole thing enough to really let go into it.

posted March 21, 2009 04:03 AM           

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the "problem" i seem to be having of late is that he asks me questions about how i'm feeling all of the time, and he's so aware of my emotions and when i am not totally in the moment and calm and connected to him.

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That seems very Libra rising behavior - they do that constant 'checking in' thing.

Coupled with his Scorpio placements, no wonder you feel slightly overwhelmed.
I'd be going nuts

From what I've experienced, it can take anywhere from 6 months to years for the scorp to feel comfortable enough to start that sharing process.

That doesn't mean they don't love and trust you, it's just their survival mechanism gets in the way of their ability to easily share their innards with another.

Indeed I would say it is very normal scorpio behavior.They never disclose, especially not feelings, unless it's at the stage when they are 150% ready to jump into the flame on your behalf.
It's just the way they are build, so don't let it get to you.

Instead, enjoy the laser-like intensity of his focus validating your existence and watching every breath you take with Hawk-like precision.

*I know it's hard, an aqua sees past the fears that may haunt the scorpio and bind his ability to share feelings easily, but just indulge him in his secretive behavior until he feels ready to share*

posted March 21, 2009 12:57 PM         

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i don't want to prod him with endless questions about his nature (which i think he might percieve as a form of mistrust of HIM rather than a need to understand!)

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he seems to 'think' far more instinctively, and also is far less communicative in terms of using WORDS. i find him extraordinarily able to communicate with a potent emotionality, however, but it is so far from the sphere of aquarius that sometimes i don't see it, understand it, or even trust it.

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it seems us aquarians need to have the space and mental comprehension before we give ourselves completely (however once we do, we really do). i do have pisces SN so i think it's similar to scorpio in that i do FEEL intensley and easily bonded to him, emotionally. actually i feel sort of torn between this emotional surrender i do feel, and the aqua need to process it *without* being overly emotional. but i want to relax and let go into the scoprio mystery, somehow!!

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he asks me questions about how i'm feeling all of the time, and he's so aware of my emotions and when i am not totally in the moment and calm and connected to him. he geniunely cares and it actually feels SO good that he's so focused on me, but i really am not used to it.. and sometimes my talking about myself so much vs. his quiet, focused attention, makes me anxious because i'd rather be asking questions about HIM, to understand HIM.

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And remember, Linda Goodman’s “Mystery of Love” for Aquarius is “I know”

posted March 21, 2009 06:24 PM           

hmmm.. interesting points about probing. maybe your mercury being in your third likes to really spill, you think? i guess for me it is more important for him to be comfortable so i generally do not ask him a lot of questions about himself. he is a very private person. he does seem happy to reveal things about himself here and there, though. specifically what i am ever curious about are his feelings for me, and how it fits into the concept of him and his needs.. and he does tell me how he feels, actually quite a bit! just not with the endless elaborations that i offer him!! haha.

mostly in starting this thread i think i wanted to figure out a way to be happy with what little he does say (which is actually deeply reassuring and intensley exciting), and try to figure out how to still be my aqua self and at the same time, tune in to his method of communication, as fully as possible. also it seems that such SURRENDER is necessary to do this, that it's made me anxious because i feel i need to mentally understand him before i can actually surrender. and i'm used to understanding via words/concepts/talking, so this has presented a bit of a challenge!!

but yeah it is about listening with my heart. that is the most important and valid sphere of communicaion anyhow!!

i don't find it intrusive at all. he really does CARE about me profoundly and i am so grateful! and thanks for your delight in my direction!

I KNOW!! i know..

posted March 21, 2009 08:16 PM         

My merc in Scorpio works similar to how others have described. It is always analyzing what is beneath the surface. I am relentless and almost always looking to observe the energies around people. For those who are closer, I will almost always pick up on their emotional weaknesses and strengths.

There is always a need to find psychological / inner depth in anything and everything. The other day, I spent two hours analyzing why my Cancer wife can't use a specific cleaning tool in the Kitchen. It included very fast probing (merc. conj mars) on all of her fears around the tool, observing past experiences of hers in how she feels comfortable with new tools, investigating what happened in the past with her mom in using new tools, probing in negative mode then switching into positive mode, then went into understanding how her own logic works. Interestingly, I hardly asked her a few questions but spent hours in probing via perceptive emotions. That is exactly where the difference comes in Merc. in Scorpio in comparison with others. "It tries to ask as little as possible but analyzes as much as possible."

After all of this analysis came the Silence (favorite for Sco merc.) and then BAM!!!!!.. I told her that when she uses this thing, she somehow looks beautiful, I would like to take her picture, I think our future children would love to see this picture. Then told her, even my mom will be able to use this thing with her when she visits us. We may be buy it again as a gift for the family if it works out. BAM!! BAM!! BAM!! The Moon Maiden's face changed.. Titillating feelings came through her entire soul.. and.. it was about time, the tool became her instant favorite.

Now, obviously, you will think that I am the biggest manipulator of all. BUT, everything I told was right. She did indeed look beautiful. Children will always appreciate clean kitchen! My mom is a Virgo clean freak anyway. And, giving this gift to the family is not a bad idea either.

posted March 21, 2009 08:46 PM         

I have mercury and Uranus in Scorpio and Pluto conjunt Sun....
The reason for my silence alot of the time is that I just don't want to contribute anything unless it is of value. I'm not one for small talk as in... ah nice weather we're having etc... I know what that all means (or could mean)...I know the hidden meaning of what some people take as small talk...and I would rather just cut to the chase and say what I mean.

I can't stand it when people play with words and use them to take them back a minute later (mind games)... I say what I mean.

Lika Zala said I do enjoy being interrogated lol because I'm interoogating you in my mind...I'll give you the psychological reason for whatever you ask... So yes go ahead and ask your man anything you want to know... he can handle it and if he can't he will just say he can't handle it, what have you got to lose?

posted March 21, 2009 11:04 PM         

A Scorpio sun guy I work with, his Mercury is exactly conjunct mine at 23 degrees and we have some pretty interesting and fun conversations. Scorpio isn't always intense and emotional; there is a fun, sometimes silly side and we really bring this out in each other. The plus side for both of us. I'm a Sag Sun (with Asc, Mars and Jupiter also in Sag).