posted March 25, 2009 02:50 AM           

I use approximately the orb the sky is showing us in the phenomen of New Moon or Full Moon. It is only considered full for an orb of 3° to each side.

I have also found this orb to show significant results. Wider orbs may be felt, but only weakly (and in some times this is more due to wishful thinking imo).

posted March 25, 2009 06:13 AM           

are you Venus or Pluto? And does Pluto / Venus rule one of the relationship houses.

posted March 25, 2009 08:52 AM           

ALways need to be careful with these conjunctions where an outer planet is involved, since outer planets, esp. Neptun and Pluto are really slow, so it can happen that someone have a venus-pluto conjunction with everyone +/- 5 years to his/her age. (If thats the case, i would only give importance to an aspect like this, if its within 1 degree orb or if the outer planet is the ruler of ASc/DESc of someone)

posted March 25, 2009 09:11 AM           

I definitely agree.

I also think, that such an aspect might be felt, if the Pluto-person has a close aspect to an inner planet natally, which in turn aspects the other person´s Venus, too.

Complicated?

What I mean is:

Person A: Venus on 10 Libra
Person B: Pluto on 15 Libra and also Sun (Moon, Mars, ASC etc.) on 12 Aries

In this case I would think this might be a very significant aspect.

posted March 25, 2009 09:48 AM         

I agree with the linking. Maybe i feel it more with him cos it;s a DW? My venus is inconjunct his pluto (2) and his venus is conjunct my pluto (6)

Actually this is interesting cos the other guy i was obsessed with for 20 years after we broke up we had
his venus 19' capricorn
my pluto 20' virgo
my mars/isis/union 21' taurus
and sextiling it my valentine 21' cancer

posted March 25, 2009 12:03 PM           

I`m inclined to think you might feel something else; but I do not think that a Venus-Pluto-conjunction with a 6 degree orb is all that significant.

However, did you check the Venus-Pluto-midpoints? Or Draco charts? Maybe there is a Venus-Pluot or even Moon-Pluto-aspect?

posted March 25, 2009 12:23 PM         

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Well...this was VERY helpful. Maybe it will end some disputes. http://www.skyscript.co.uk/gl/orbs.html

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Whoa, those are some huge orbs.

I use orbs differently for a natal chart or a long-term relationship than for everyday synastry...I think that in your natal, or in a committed, non-long-distance relationship between two people who see each other every day for 10+ years and are BOTH very invested in the relationship, or in close and intense family or collegial relationships, wide orbs can be felt over time.

But I often see wide orbs--and asteroid aspects--as a "wishful thinking" strategy, where Person A is obsessively posting on astrology websites to get confirmation and validation that Person B (who is either casually sleeping with her, involved more seriously with someone else, has never met her in person but they "chat" online, lives 4 hours away and hasn't called her for a month, etc etc) feels a deep romantic pull toward her or could be "the one."

Lots of times when people don't know each other too well, and still have feelings wrapped up in a recently-ended relationship OR are caught in dreary relationships they don't have the courage to leave, they decide they're "in love" and project a big pile of feelings onto some near-stranger. Neptune in the synastry will usually indicate this, so until the relationship is unambiguously mutual, it's mostly worth looking at how the other person's chart is triggering one's own Neptune.

I mean, you can have the most kick-ass romantic synastry in the world with someone, but if he/she doesn't develop feelings for you, it may never be activated on your side.

For regular synastry, I use a 3 degree orb, but pay the most attention to exact aspects (0 or 1 degrees.) Note that this cannot be done accurately unless you have two accurate birth times.

If the couple is very deeply, unambiguously involved, I'll look at wider aspects, especially when they play off of the individual charts. (For example, if my friend Jess has a 5 degree natal Pluto-Venus-Mars conjunction, and Pluto is her chart ruler, I'm going to check out where her husband's planets hit that stellium with special interest. An 8 degree, or even a 13 degree, conjunction of his Eros-Mars to that stellium might be more intensely felt in the chart than a 1 degree trine of his Sun to her Moon when those planets are relatively unaspected in each natal chart.)

Ultimately, astrology is a creative, interpretive, and intuitive practice as well as a scientific one, and in any synastry reading it's worth looking at the charts a few different ways to see what "feels" right as you interpret them holistically. There can be very unique circumstances in the natal charts that lead certain unexpected synastry contacts to be more prominent than they logically should--for instance, in a funnel chart with Jupiter as the funnel, the native might find that she feels most madly in love with people whose personal planets aspect her Jupiter, even widely, even though Jupiter isn't her chart ruler or on her angles. In some charts, Saturn might represent Dad Issues, while in others, it might be the Sun or Mars.

Intuition is underused in synastry. If you feel a little desperate for confirmation or validation that someone is a soulmate, that a relationship has potential, or that you two might have great synastry, it's a big sign that not enough real love/comfort/friendship/connection/communication/time together are happening in real life!