posted March 31, 2009 08:35 AM         

quote:

---

Each astrological age brings with it not only the energies of that sign, which then play apon the planet, but it also bring in a specific group of souls.

What this means is there are different soul groups, each group aligned or associated with a different sign.

There was a soul group that was aligned with the Piscen age & carried the Piscean energies. This was the group that was primairy incarnated through the Piscean age.

Now as the Aquarian age comes in, we have the Aquarian energies playing on the planet & the Aquarian soul group coming into incarnation.......these souls began to incarnate in 1700.

---

quote:

---

Indigo energies & souls began coming onto the planet about the early 1700. These early incarnations had the toughest job of breaking through the ice bringing in the 1st of the new energies. They have ushered in the industrial revolution,scientific thought & the new ideals of liberty & freedom.

---

Indigo Adults
Forerunners of the new civilization
Jaffe & Davidson

posted March 31, 2009 10:16 AM         

Not all autism is linked to vaccinations though. Some are genetic and hereditary

That should be taken into consideration

Autism is highly misunderstood.

Some scientists found some cases of autism are genetic. They say that half of all cases of male autism may be caused by spontaneous genetic mutations. They even find that relatives of autistics often have very subtle communication impairments or behavioral tendencies that would be considered autistic only in their most severe forms. Milder and
High Functioning cases of autism could be highly inheritable. The Severe and low functioning cases of autism could be caused by poisoning. Many Milder and high functioning autistics believe that there is nothing wrong with them and that they don't need to be fixed but that they are just different and consider themselves neurodivergent. They came up with the neurodiversity movement which I support because of my own neurodivergence with Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,and ADHD. There is even an Autistic Pride Day. I am dead against
medication being used for autism. The fact is that antipsychotics are being used on people with pervasive developmental disorder,autism.
It's things like this,many ADHD children being on psychiatric medications including even antipsychotics and my own Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD misdiagnosed as schizoaffective bipolar disorder that lead me to be a neurodivergent/neurdiversity advocate.

Autism being genetic http://www.physorg.com/news97949226.html http://www.bioedonline.org/news/news.cfm?art=3476 http://academiccommons.columbia.edu:8080/ac/handle/10022/AC:P:7535

I read that Temple Grandin is referred to as being Aspergers Syndrome. According to the criteria,Aspergers don't have significant speech delays. Well..Temple Grandin did,and she had speech therapy for them. I read her book,THINKING IN PICTURES which explains all about autism. They confuse high functioning autism with Aspergers Syndrome. It's not
the same. It's been revealed that many nonverbal autistics have been highly intelligent all along,but they are given the wrong tests which involve the utilization of verbal skills,and they do much better on Raven Matrice tests that test for their visual spatial abstract
reasoning skills. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070803151245.htm

If these autistics were given speech therapy in early childhood,and they become articulate, does that mean that they are Aspergers? That would be nonsense. I actually have a lot of the Aspergers traits myself, and they do overlap with Dyspraxia. I don't have the problems with understanding social/emotional cues, but actually even hypersensitive to emotional/social cues. From what I have read in Tony Attwoods,book, I am wondering if he's misdiagnosing Dyspraxics as Aspergers. Clumsiness and coordination issues are included in the Aspergers profile,but those are the hallmark symptoms of Dyspraxia. When I first did a post on Dyspraxia in 2003, I remember an astrologer said that her son has a lot of those symptoms and that he's Aspergers. She said that Dyspraxia seems so much like Aspergers Syndrome. From the books that I read about Dyspraxia,Dyspraxics can have problems with understanding emotional/social cues. I read that about Dyslexia too. I read about that with ADHD too in the ADHD
magazines that I used to suscribe to. The problem is that they have problems knowing which neurodivergent disorder is which because the symptoms of the neurodivergent conditions overlap as well as there is high comorbidity with these conditions so many people have more than 1 neurodivergent condition like I have Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,and ADHD.
Neurologists and psychologist were perceptive enough to know that I had no autistic spectrum disorder.

Watch out for children with speech delays/problems being misdiagnosed Autistic too. Those are well known early warning sign of Dyslexia,Dyspraxia...not just autism. As a young child, I was in special education for the mentally retarded in 1st grade. Therefore, I was thought of as mentally retarded. I also think that people also thought I was autistic. I had severe language issues and coordination issues in early childhood. It was auditory therapy,speech therapy,and phonics as well as fine motor skills therapy in early intervention special education that helped correct my Dyslexia and Dyspraxia.

urls on Dyslexia and speech delays/problems http://www.interdys.org/ewebeditpro5/upload/Is_My_Child_Dyslexic_9-12--8.pdf http://www.education.com/magazine/article/Ed_Does_my_have_dyslexia/ http://www.brightsolutions.us/ http://www.ldonline.org/article/16282 http://www.dyslexia-teacher.com/t138.html

urls on Dyspraxia and speech delays/problems http://www.dyspraxiausa.org/index.php/Early-Symptoms.html http://www.dyspraxia.org.nz/what_is.htm http://www.angelfire.com/journal/ldps/Dyspraxia.htm

speech delays/problems can also be connected to sensory integration issues
Those are even complicated. Sensory integration issues are very common in people with Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD....especially in people with Aspergers,Autism. I have a history of them myself.
http://www.speech-language-development.com/sensory-integration.html http://www.learningdiscoveries.org/SensoryIntegration.htm http://www.artsportsworld.com/Articles/Sensory%20Integration.htm

speech delays/problems can also occur without any Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,Autism,nor sensory integration issues. http://www.speechdelay.com/frequentlyaskedquestions#3

I also believe that it's important to understand that Dyslexics and Dyspraxics are very rightbrained people,and it's those rightbrained strengths that can actually cause problems with leftbrained things.
I can totally relate to them. If you read them, you might think that these can be so-called Indigo,Crystal stuff as well as Outerplanet/Kuiper belt energy stuff. http://www.hull.ac.uk/disability/downloads/dyswhatunderstanding

Raymond

posted March 31, 2009 10:29 AM         

DRD4 has been associated with ADHD in various studies. A variation of
it,DRD4 7R is found to be closely linked to ADHD and a behavior called
novelty seeking. The human gene study suggests that behavior now
considered inappropriate in a classroom may be related to behavior
that once helped humans overcome their environment. Approximately half
of children with ADHD have the 7R allele. It's suggested to occur
spontaneously from 10,000 to 40,000 years ago. The discovery
confirmed Thom Hartmann's theory of ADHD as being a hunter trait. He
wrote about in his book,THE EDISON GENE. It was his books that got me
to believe that ADHD is not a disorder that needs medication,but an
alternative way of being,thinking and learning.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/01/020109074512.htm http://www.drugawareness.org/Archives/3rdQtr_2002/record0008.html http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2002-06/your-caveman-gramps-had-ants-his-pants http://www.healthcare.uci.edu/News/Releases/ADHD-advantageousGene.htm

According to Tom Hartmann, Edison-gene children and adults are by nature:
page 4-5 of THE EDISON GENE: ADHD and the Gift of the Hunter Child/

Enthusiastic
Creative
Disorganized
Non-Linear in their thinking(they leap to new conclusions or observations)
Innovative
Easily distracted (or,to put it differently,easily attracted to new stimuli)
Capable of extraordinary hyperfocus
Understanding of what it means to be an "outsider"
Determined
Eccentric
Easily Bored
Impulsive
Entrepreneurial
Energetic

All of these qualities lead them to be natural:

Explorers
Inventors
Discoverers
Leaders

I do feel that mainstream schools who focus on mainly auditory sequential teaching methods don't match our learning style which tends to be visual spatial. Maybe it's my ADHD or Edison Gene traits that made me unconventional, have quick reflexes,very fast runner,creative,think outside the box,read a lot of myths and Arthurian Legends as a kid,and never fit in with organized religion and praying in front of others but rather pray and talk to God in private, and how I even lost my Christian faith after learning about theory of evolution in 7th grade,my 2 years of atheism, and now my religious/spiritual beliefs that fit into Unitarian Universalism,Neopaganism, and New Age,my being into Astrology/Numerology/Taro t and my overall liberalism in regards to society as whole and tolerate,accept diversity as well as being an advocate/activist. I also enjoyed reading about explorers,inventors as a child. I was interested in science too as well as wanting to invent things. I liked doing science experiments as a kid. I was rather experimental as a kid. I was always very curious and got into things,and I'd get in trouble for it. I have always been a dreamer,and even thought of being an actor as a teenager. I didn't know that I shared the same birthdate as actress Winona Ryder until 1997. I definitely thought about having my own business when I was a teenager.

According to the author of DRIVEN TO DISTRACTION, Dr. Ned Hallowell, a psychiatrist who has ADHD and Dyslexia

The Positive Aspects of AD/HD

Most descriptions of AD/HD focus on the negative aspects and neglect to mention the advantages to having AD/HD. They include:

* Creativity
* High Energy
* Intuitiveness
* Resourcefulness
* Tenacity
* Warm-heartedness
* Trusting Attitude (sometimes too much so)
* Forgiving attitude (sometimes too much so)
* Sensitivity
* Ability to take risks (sometimes too risky)
* Flexibility
* Loyalty
* Good sense of humor

Not all persons with AD/HD have all these traits, but to the extent that there is such a thing as the AD/HD personality this list of positive qualities describes the advantageous side of the AD/HD personality. It should be noted that the problems AD/HD causes can be so severe that these positive qualities never gain full expression or recognition.
http://www.drhallowell.com/resources/articles/positive_aspects.html

True ADHD is more of unconventional,rightbrained,nonlinear way of being,thinking,and learning.

The problem is that there are too many other causes of ADHD symptoms,behavior

According to the book, ADD AND ADHD COMPLEMENTARY MEDICINE SOLUTIONS by Charles Gant,MD,PhD

Physiological Risk Factors For ADHD

1. Food and Additive Allergies and Sensitivitites
2. Heavy and Toxic Metal Toxicity
3. Low-Protein,High-Carbohydrate Diet(Long-Term,not Acute)
4.Mineral Imbalances
5.Essential Fatty Acid and Phospholid Deficiencies
6.Amino Acid Deficiencies
7.Thyroid Disorders
8.B Vitamin Deficiencies

according to a site, there are 50 things that mimic ADHD http://www.incrediblehorizons.com/mimic-adhd.htm

no wonder, people with DRD4 7R gene get viewed as being disordered and need to be fixed because there are so many disorders that can mimic ADHD including hypoglycemia which is listed at the top.

Raymond

posted March 31, 2009 10:38 AM         

quote:

---

Genetic mutation implies toxic/metallic involvement for chromosome imbalance though Glaucus, no?
(which is all vaccinations are)

---

posted March 31, 2009 11:00 AM         

not necessarily.

DRD4 7R gene is considered a genetic mutation too. That gene is dated back 10,000 to 40,000 years ago. Scientists confirmed that it is an advantageous gene. Humans started migrating all over the globe during tha time

there were no vaccines to blame the DRD4 7R gene to come into being.

The so-called genetic mutations can actually be the result of evolutionary changes like things like fair skin and blue eyes in connection to climate.

Also Autistic traits can run in familes. High functioning autism can be a hereditary thing.

I think that we need to watch how we blanket certain people. not all autism is the result of vaccines,toxins,nor heavy metal poisoning. There are people with genetic autism that have their strengths and are quite intelligent and don't seem themselves as being disordered.

not every autistic is the result of toxins. Many high functioning autistics as well as Aspergers don't see themselves as having a disorder. They have their own strengths. The same goes for Dyslexics,Dyspraxics,and ADHDers.

Autism running in families http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/health&id=5883302

Aloof parents may produce autistic children http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=5406901&page=1

Perhaps the most provocative finding scientists have made to date is that the components of autism, far more than autism itself, tend to run in families. Thus even though profoundly autistic people rarely have children, researchers often find that a close relative is affected by some aspect of the disorder. A sister may engage in odd repetitive behavior or be excessively shy; a brother may have difficulties with language or be socially inept to a noticeable degree. In similar fashion, if one identical twin has autism, there is a 60% chance that the other will too and a better than 75% chance that the twin without autism will exhibit one or more autistic traits. http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020506/scautism2.html

Families share 'autistic traits'
Image of the brain
'Autistic' brain changes may be seen in the relatives of those with autism
Relatives of people with autism may display autistic brain differences and behaviours despite not having the condition themselves, a study show http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4464434.stm

Top 10 Terrific Traits of Autistic People

If you're sick of hearing about all the "deficits" challenging people on the autism spectrum, join the club. But for every down side to autism, there seems to be a positive -- an unusual trait that rarely appears among the "typical" community, but shines out among autistic folk. These plusses are well worth celebrating.
http://autism.about.com/od/inspirationideas/tp/besttraits.htm

neurodivergence does run in families. Neurodivergence runs on both sides of my family. I was born to neurodivergent parents with my father being the more neurodivergent. From what my mom told me,I have inherited neurodivergence more from him. I have inherited my mom's neurodivergence too. She and I are even similar in the way we think. She and I both are left eye dominant,left ear dominant even though right handed which means that we are both cross dominant, but we both have ability to use our left hands for certain things. We both are highly intuitive, imaginative think mainly in pictures instead of words and visualize things in our mind's eye nonstop. She and I are both ultrasensitive,highly emotional.

When I showed her the list of neurodivergent symptoms listed here,she told me that she has lot of the symptoms just like I do.

http://www.levinsonmedical.com/information/syndrome.html

I even showed them to my maternal aunt Dede,and she told me that she has a lot of them too. Her oldest daughter was diagnosed as ADHD at the age of 7. Even her youngest daughter told me that she can relate to ADHD. Hyperactivity runs in our family too. My maternal uncle Eddie is hyperactive and speech problems that got him placed in special education,and so was my maternal grandfather. My uncle Eddie's youngest child is hyperactive Even my maternal grandmother is hyperactive. Also my maternal grandfather's half brother was diagnosed as having Dyslexia. My maternal uncle Dino had problems with school,and he told me that he has writing problems. They all have their strengths too. I definitely come from a neurodivergent family. I never knew my father, but he was definitely neurodivergent. My mom even said about me "For somebody who never knew his father,he is just like him"

oh another...my maternal grandfather's father didn't want to settle down and be a farmer in West Sacramento,California. He took off to San Francisco,California and he ended up being a bartender. He wanted to live the fastlane. Novelty-seeking seems to run in our family.....so does strong Uranus.
Also strong water,Neptune,and Kuiper Belt energy runs in our family too.

posted March 31, 2009 11:20 AM         

My nephew (Not blood related) is autistic much more severe then my brother. His family has a history of mental disabilities and his own father I believe has shown traits of autism (he's in his mid 30's)

posted March 31, 2009 11:21 AM         

I discussed 4 charts

I went over

Outer planet aspects involving the Sun,Moon,Mercury,MC,and Asc
orb
conjunction,opposition,square,trine - 5'00
sextile - 3'00
semisquare,sesquiquadrate,quincunx,semisextile,quintile,biquintile - 1'30
parallel,contraparallel - 1'00

Outer direct(conjunction,opposition) midpoint configurations that involve Sun,Moon,Mercury,MC,and Asc
orb - 1'30

Kuiper belt aspects (only the dwarf planets and dwarf candidates) involving the Sun,Moon,Mercury,MC,and Asc
orb
conjunction,opposition,trine,square - 3'00
semisquare,sesquiquadrate,quincunx,semisextile,quintile,biquintile - 1'00
parallel,contraparallel - 1'00

I included not only ecliptic longitude,but also declinations and Right ascension. The latter 2 are equatorial coordinates that astronomers use to locate objects. Many astrologers use declination(equatorial latitude) but not right ascension (equatorial longitude).

I don't include Pluto as a planet because it's technically a kuiper belt dwarf planet, and so there are no Pluto aspects listed under outerplanet aspects nor did I look at midpoints involving Pluto. I included Pluto under the kuiper belt section.

if I had used Pluto for outerplanet aspects and midpoints, then I would have had to use Pluto's fellow kuiper belt objects...especially Eris,Makemake,and Haumea which are classified as dwarf planets along with Pluto.

Raymond

posted March 31, 2009 11:56 AM         

there is more

Ron Davis Inteview - Concept of GIFT OF DYSLEXIA
Ron Davis Interview - Gift of Dyslexia concept

Ron Davis' theory in resolving dyslexia is the observation that when an auditory
symbol (a word) lacks a mental picture and meaning for the dyslexic,
disorientation and mistakes are the result.

When we show a dyslexic how to turn off the disorientations at the moment they
occur, and then help find and master the stimuli that triggered the
disorientation, the reading, writing and spelling problems start to disappear.

Born autistic and dyslexic, Ron has had incredible life. From standing in the
corner at school with a dunces cap on, being teased and beaten, and not talking
until well into his teens, he started teaching calculus to the engineers working
on the Polaris missile system before he turned 20! he went on to become a
millionaire through real estate but always felt like a fraud because he could
not read or write.

Ron reveals his amazing breakthrough and how he now teaches The Gift of Dyslexia
through his network of international facilitators. A truly compassionate and
amazing man.

This is Ronald D. Davis interview video in regards to Dyslexia and Autism. I was
very touched by his story. He went through a lot,but he became a success and
ended helping other neurodivergents. He explains what Dyslexia and other
neurodivergent conditions are about. He says that they are a product of
thought,talent,and low threshold for confusion.

He talked about evolutionary changes. He mentions stuff about Indigos and
Crystals. He talks about how education system really needs to change to respond
to the 500 percent increase of autism.
He believes that purpose of the public education is to control and keep people
docile.
I wish that I can get his birthdata. I would love to do his chart. I have no
doubt that he's very strong in both outerplanet and kuiper belt energy

Gift of Dyslexia Part 1
length: 54 minutes,55 seconds http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/rdavis.htm

Gift of Dyslexia Part 2
length: 31 minutes,4 seconds
The Gift of Dyslexia - Part 2: Autism http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/rdavis2.htm

Ron Davis continues his fascinating interview and reveals that over the last
decade, the number of children being born with autism has increased by 500
percent - and Ron says this phenomena is only the beginning. He shares who these
'new people' are, and how our educational system needs to respond, not just for
their sake but for the sake of ALL children.

Ron Davis - Unlocking the Power of Dyslexia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svqyInQ9XwY&NR=1

The Davis Dyslexia Correction Program http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOuQ_yxMSF4&feature=related

I have his books,THE GIFT OF DYSLEXIA and THE GIFT OF LEARNING as part of my
neurodivergence book collection.

posted March 31, 2009 12:47 PM         

When I first read about Aspergers, I thought that I might have it. It's because their symptoms/traits overlap with Dyspraxia. The hallmark of Aspergers is problems with social/emotional cues and not coordination issues/clumsiness which are hallmark of Dyspraxia. I don't have problems with social/emotional cues, but I have a history of coordination issues/clumsiness. Therefore, I am Dyspraxic and not Aspergers.
Aspergers have strengths in rote memorization,detail,organization,sequence,but those are my weaknesses connected to my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD. Also my speech delays/problems connected to my Dyslexia and Dyspraxia rule out Aspergers. My ADHD has been confirmed by psychologist in 2004. My Dyslexiaa and Dyspraxia have been confirmed by world renowned neurologist/psychiatrist Dr. Harold N. Levinson in 2005 and Veteran Affairs neurologist in 2006 after neurological testing was done. Autistic Spectrum was ruled out.

I think that people are mixing Dyspraxia and Aspergers mixed. I keep seeing Aspergers traits listed for Dyspraxia and Dyspraxic traits listed for Aspergers. I even read that they want to add coordination issues/clumsiness to the diagnostic criteria of Aspergers. There is a high comorbidity of Dyspraxia and Aspergers like the other neurodivergent conditions.

DANDA (Developmental Adult Neuro-Diversity Association) makes a point about comorbidity .

DANDA has grown out of the Dyspraxia Foundation Adult Support Group, as it became clear that most people connected to the Group did not have dyspraxia alone. Most, in fact, had AD(H)D (Attention Deficit (Hyperactivity) Disorder, Asperger’s Syndrome or dyslexia as well. It was the norm rather than the exception.

Dyspraxia will remain one of the main priorities as there are very few groups catering for the needs of adults with this condition. However, more and more people wanted to know more about the other conditions they had, especially those with Asperger’s and AD(H)D. Many dyspraxics in fact joined groups for adults with Asperger’s Syndrome, but very few are run by Asperger’s adults themselves in the UK; and there are very few established AD(H)D groups, just for adults, here, either. http://www.danda.org.uk/pages/about-danda.php

As a neurodiversity advocate that wants to form a nonprofit neurodiversity organization in the future to help raise awareness,understanding,promote neurodiversity,and speak out for civil/equal rights for my fellow neurodivergents, I feel that it's impractical for me to use labels like Indigo and Crystal even though neurodivergents can easily fit these labels.
I want the nonprofit organization to be taken seriously,and so I can't afford to include new age/metaphysical concepts in the organization. That means that I can't go around and saying that "I am a Neurodivergent and my very strong outerplanet,kuiper belt energies are indicators of that" I certainly can't go around telling people that I am a psychic,emotional sponge with my Moon in Pisces square Neptune. I'd get treated like Tom Cruise(who is Dyslexic and has admitted to being recommended to be medicated for hyperactivity as a child) who claims that Scientology study methods helped with his Dyslexia. My t-square of Moon in Pisces in 6th square the opposition of retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd, my Saturn contraparallel Mercury-Venus-Neptune, and my Moon conjunct Fomalhaut indicates my greatest karmic lessons/challenges involve the need to balance my materialism,practicality, and idealism,spirituality and to ground my idealistic,mystical nature.

I do plan on promoting holistic/alternative health remedies/practices like massage therapy,aromatherapy,herbalism,accupuncture,accupressure,and other nondrug approaches like fish/cod liver oil,flaxseed oil,vitamins/minerals,and improving nutrition for dealing with the weaknesses of neurodivergents. I will definitely advocate against psychiatric medicating neurodivergents. I won't be promoting Astrology,Numerology,and energy work in the organization because those are highly controversial and seen as quite pseudoscientific. I am constantly pondering how do I separate my metaphysical activities from my advocacy. As an astrologer, I want to be an advocate of neurodivergence in Astrology in regards to exploring astrological neurodivergent indicators as well as point how certain astrological configurations that astrologers view as psychological/psychiatric problems,drug/alcohol addiction can actually be configurations for neurodivergence too.
I don't want people to look at my astrological work on neurodivergence and falsely accuse me of basing my views of neurodivergence on Astrology and be concerned that Astrology influences my neurodiversity advocacy.

my greatest objective is to raise awareness and understanding that neurodivergence doesn't mean disordered nor does it mean lack of intelligence. My greatest passions as a neurodiversity advocate is to help keep my fellow neurodivergents from being placed in special education classes that they don't belong in and to keep them from being misdiagnosed as having psychiatric disorders resulting in being on psychiatric medications like Ritalin,Risperdal,or other psyche meds. That means that I have to point out that neurodivergence and psychiatric disorders have significant overlapping in symptoms/traits. Therefore, I stress the importance of mandatory neurological and psychological testing should be done to differentiate neurodivergence from psychiatric disorders. Then neurodivergents won't be misdiagnosed as having psychiatric disorders like schizophrenia and bipolar and be placed on medication that they shouldn't be taken and is very harmful. I don't want my fellow neurodivergents to go through what I and my others neurodivergents gone through.

I also have ideas of how neurotypical people can help empathize with neurodivergent people

The Neurodivergent Empathy Program http://people.tribe.net/4b0cf8c4-1fc3-4171-92d3-b0915985bf95/blog/45c762 ec-0487-4cc0-9b5c-be54e41ecf2d

As an advocate, I definitely want to raise awareness and understanding of the strengths of neurodivergence http://people.tribe.net/4b0cf8c4-1fc3-4171-92d3-b0915985bf95/blog/fc67cc cf-5577-446f-98be-4672bc9fdf0e

I am going to become a member of Spiritual Life Center which is an interfaith unity church. I want to do a lot of volunteer work through the church, and I want to use it as a stepping stone to forming the nonprofit neurodiversity organization. Many civil rights/equal rights advocates/activists have come from churches. Unitarian Universalists and Quakers have been involved in abolutionism and civil rights activism.

Raymond

posted March 31, 2009 01:16 PM         

I didnt say, "I AM INDIGO"!

I said, "I think I'm an Indigo child."

What does "I think" mean??

I think: it is my opinion, it seems to me, methinks.

Because, I have no proof.

I dont want to repeat this again:
The question wasnt about finding out whether I am an Indigo child or not. The question is: "Are there any astrological factors which can help us understand that a person is possibly an Indigo??" If you believe that there is no such thing as "Indigo/Crystal Children", I cannot do anything else but respect your opinion.

I dont want anyone to feel bad about this.
I dont claim that I'm special.
I dont need that a f****** bit!

P.S: The name of the thread is "Star Children" because in one of those confusing sites about Indigo/Crystal Children, they are referred to as "Star Children". That's why I chose this name.

posted March 31, 2009 01:46 PM         

there is no need to defend yourself.

I think that you're fine.

If you think that you're Indigo or Crystal, I see nothing wrong with that. Who the hell am I to judge?

You mentioned about you didn't start talking when you were 4 years old, New Agers might say that you fit more with the Crystals than the Indigos.

I didn't speak any words until I was 2 years old. That's common with Dyslexics and Dyspraxics. Even then, people couldn't understand me. My mom told me that I got frustrated,and so I created my own sign language to help others understand me.

when I was 3 years old, the nuns from daycare/preschool asked my mom what language I spoke because they thought I was speaking a foreign language,but I wasn't. I was found to have auditory reversals that led me to have speech reversals. Auditory processing and speech are strongly connected. My mom was told that it was a form of Dyslexia.
My mother told me that she thought of my father when I had my speech and hearing tested because he had speech and auditory processing problems too. They do run in families.

She also told me that I didn't speak clearly nor in full sentences until I was almost 8 years old. Of course, I had years of speech therapy in special education. I still have speech problems that got me misdiagnosed as having schizoaffective bipolar disorder by psychiatrists because of my rapid,loose,tangential speech called cluttering which is known symptom of both Dyspraxia and Dyslexia.

Of course as a very rightbrained,nonlinear thinking person that thinks mainly in pictures, I had difficulty with words any way.

Those are things that psychiatrists need to consider. Even Dr. Harold N. Levinson pointed out the need to differentiate neurodivergent speech from psychotic speech.
It was my reading about it in his books is what made me realized that I was misdiagnosed because psychiatrics mistakened my Dyslexic,Dyspraxic speech for schizoaffective bipolar speech.

Those are things that I raise awareness and understanding as an advocate.

any ways....there is no need to defend yourself.

BTW....I have read Indigo and Crystal children referred to as Star Children. It really depends on the site that you read. That's like with religion,politics,and astrological systems.

also...with your strong outer planet and kuiper belt energy, you easily fit the profile that I am looking at in regards to Indigo,Crystal,neurodivergence.

peace

posted March 31, 2009 02:08 PM         

I think the problem, and this goes for the entire Indigo discussion also, is that people naturally want to categorize everything that they encounter no matter how benign. If a person, object, or idea is so radically different that it cannot be categorized by existing standards, people are apt to just invent a new label. Personally, I think this what the Indigo label is all about. It's an attempt to categorize something that is not able to be neatly pigeon-holed into an existing category.

As I was saying in my original post, there are people who are always going to be on the fringes of society and who cannot be fit into what the societal norms are. Outer Plant People/PUNCs, especially if these planets are in aspect to the major asteroids or Kuiper Belt objects, display such tendencies; Indigo/Crystal people are generally influenced by these astrological alignments.

posted March 31, 2009 07:57 PM           

quote:

---

but there's nothing like living through a Virgo North Node, right

---

You can say that again.

posted April 01, 2009 01:43 AM         

I deliberately wrote "I THINK" so that you would know it's just my opinion. If I know something is fact, I wouldn't even bother typing out those two words.

That's cool if you think you are, just know that others might be skeptical (of you and the existence of indigo children [the ones that originate from space or w/e]).