posted April 04, 2009 12:12 AM           

Saturn/Venus/Sun in the 8th makes him very very reserved and poisonous in the love sphere. Just wish I could get rid of that inhibition. It reminds me of a metal snap cover that shuts tight when provoked.

posted April 04, 2009 06:15 AM           

Just want to relate to two things quickly:

EMPTY SET, you wrote about VENUS-square-JUPITER:

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Apparently, he falls in love at the drop of a hat and when things get too hard he will leave you for the next one and kindly lie about it.

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I do believe that there's some truth about that! They want too much too fast ("at a drop of a hat") - but don't have the stamina, patience, resourcefulness to see it through ... some hastiness involved, superficialty, lacking of substance, a "show & shine"-trait goes with this - it is as well my experience!

PLUTONIAN PERSONA: And voilą - you've mentioned one aspect that I am carrying myself! I also hate it myself!;-) It's VENUS-square-NEPTUNE. You wrote:

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It is impossible to truly please these people because they expect the wholly idealized type of relationships that are found on film. When they do not get this type of relationship it's because you're not trying hard enough or giving enough support. OY!

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posted April 04, 2009 09:51 AM         

That's the worst aspects I've seen in someone's chart and also playing out in his personality.

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Asc: Scorpio

posted April 04, 2009 10:04 AM         

The other one that bothered me was mars square neptune in my ex's chart; it was just SO obvious...and the opposition even showed up in our composite. On the one hand it satisfies my neptunian need for fantasy and escape, on the other hand there's just no drive and no sense of things like time and discipline. He wasn't very direct either, and that pretty much clashed with my aries mars.

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I like these respones, it's kind of guide of what not to do in love when you have these aspects.

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posted April 04, 2009 10:36 AM         

Mercury Square Jupiter ~ you think big, you talk a lot. I like your creative spirit and your vision. I just don't like clearing up the debris. Finishing things off sometimes would be nice, too.

Jupiter Opposite Pluto ~ when you go off on one of your dictorial moods I fantasise about doing you a personal injury. You're right, it doesn't help that my Sun is slap-bang in the middle, or maybe it's good, you might end up annoying more than just your family if you weren't kept in line.

Sun Conjunct Neptune ~ there's a distinction between an idea in your head and a signature on a dotted line. I don't think you merge the two together on purpose, but I have seen more than one person with a deadline sent into an apoplexy because of it.

Venus Square Neptune ~ so, you're in love with a lap dancer you met when you were coked out of your head. Now her husband is after you and wants to kill you. Is this part of some game they get off on? From your perspective, no, but don't worry, my narrow shoulders will be here when you want to cry over it all later, when you have seen the light.

posted April 04, 2009 11:03 AM           

i have this in a composite with some one, and this is just how it is, it also has mars exactly squaring the pluto and conjunct the venus exactly.

venus in leo conjunct mars in leo exact [composite] easily jelouse?

pluto in scorpio? potent stings against one another? :/

exact square 0 degree.. sigh

but from my end, im not doing it because i 'feel like it'. but because i feel shes doing it to me.

posted April 04, 2009 12:34 PM         

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Venus square Pluto in my ex's chart drove me nuts. It was like 'I love you, but I can't help it, I also want to really hurt you and keep hurting you'.

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posted April 04, 2009 01:16 PM           

(from Cafeastrology)
When Moon is in hard aspect to Saturn in the natal chart, natives need to learn to trust others more. Fear keeps them from fully enjoying personal relationships, and fear is behind the occasional rigidity that they express. When they let themselves receive nurture or care from others, an inner voice cautions them that it might not be sincere, long-lasting, or enough! There can be some reluctance about becoming a parent, but once taken on, these people don't take their responsibility lightly.

You often feel that you must do something or be something other than what you are in order to receive approval and acceptance from others. You are very sensitive to criticism and easily feel left out or neglected, and though you may appear cool or distant, you actually care very much about being included. Because you are so sensitive, it may seem easier for you to withdraw into a shell rather than risk the emotional bumps and bruises that can occur when you let others really know you in an intimate, personal way. Your reserve and caution make establishing a close emotional rapport with others difficult for you, and you become very attached to the few people you consider "real friends". You can gain inner security and strength through periods of solitude if you view them as times to nourish yourself and develop your own interests, rather than as times of loneliness.

posted April 04, 2009 01:58 PM           

My ex has Moon in Pisces Square to Venus conjunct Saturn in Gemini. A person gets into a relationship with him it's like till death break us apart (Or it could be the Venus Square Pluto as well - which is tripped up in a Tsquare involving Jupiter in Sag, Pluto in Virgo and Venus in Gemini.)

He'll go on his martyr trips and then I am tempted to ask him if he needs to be nailed up on a cross.

He holds grudges and can be hard to deal with. But another thing that drives me up the wall is the lack of earth in his chart. At times he doesn't have a grip on reality and most of the time his head is shoved up somewhere.

And he has 3 planets in Leo - you can't tell him anything and is extremely fixed on his own point of view and refuses to listen to reason.

ID

PS. Myself I have Venus in Pisces in the 10th square to Jupiter/Neptune Conj in Sag. I really used to settle in relationships - well used to settle on the first guy to ever give me attention and then end up with somebody abusive and uncaring. With a 5th house Uranus it would be an on again off again relationship - a regular yo-yo relationship. Finally got it our of my system.

This is not an aspect but the placement gives me grey hairs - Mercury in the 12th! I know what I am talking about but nobody takes me seriously or see me as full of it - until later then they realize that I was speaking truthfully.

posted April 05, 2009 06:58 PM         

Otherwise, the iron bending Sun-Pluto aspects. Bullies.
The best example is my mum - Sco Sun/Merc in conj both squared by Leo Moon/Pluto conj and add to that Jupiter conj Mars (Mars chart ruler) in Cap. The ultimate explosive temper. Love my mum but the most difficult and impossible person I've ever met in my life.