posted April 14, 2009 07:19 PM            

I'd say you'd interpret Lust in synastry and natals like a planet. Lust in natal chart would indicate some level of lust in the person, ie what the person lusts over and how the person "lusts" (aspects to other planets). I'd say in synastry it's the Lust person who would be lusty and viewed as the lusty one. By lust, I'd mean a sexual drive without romance (ie Eros or Venus) for something/someone in one's self. To do: look up "lust"in dictionary.

Examples:
1. I have Lust in Aqu/10th house - my lusty qualities are Aqu in nature, maybe I lust after eccentric things with an eccentric/distant/intellectual quality and in a very public way.
2. I have Lust conj my Sun/Mercury. I might be seen by others as having a lusty ego and thoughts.
3. Michael Hutchence's Sun happens to be conj my Lust (as well as my Sun and Merc). Yes, I have lusted after him, my feelings towards him then and now is that he is probably the sexiest guy I have seen because my Lust tells me to lust after him, that is, his ego.** His Moon is square my Lust. I find him emotionally appealing in a lusty way but in a conflicting, on-off sense. Cf Eros, where I've had Eros contacts with another and it feels very different.

Hope these examples help.

As for NN-Lust conj, I'd say Lust person is the person seeks to direct the NN person in a lusty. Lust person can provide lessons to NN on maybe how to be lusty?

posted April 14, 2009 07:26 PM            

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lust   [luhst] Show IPA
–noun
1. intense sexual desire or appetite.
2. uncontrolled or illicit sexual desire or appetite; lecherousness.
3. a passionate or overmastering desire or craving (usually fol. by for): a lust for power.
4. ardent enthusiasm; zest; relish: an enviable lust for life.
5. Obsolete.
a. pleasure or delight.
b. desire; inclination; wish.
–verb (used without object)
6. to have intense sexual desire.
7. to have a yearning or desire; have a strong or excessive craving (often fol. by for or after).

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posted April 15, 2009 04:45 AM              

thanks for that interpretation. And I agree with it.

Having said that I have Lust in Sagittarius exactly conjunct ASC, and also conjunct Mars, NN and Neptune, sextile Pluto (10th house) and square Jupiter (Pisces / 3rd house).

Now, I am NOT a sex-driven person, not at all. Well, at least I always thought so.
But then again, event hough I may not be outwardly "lust-y", the idea of sexual attraction (and the various layers of it) have always been deeply fascinating to me. So I guess, in this sense my Lust makes sense, even though it doesn`t make me go out and have one onenight-stand after the other (and I am glad it`s that way).
Maybe my Venus in Cappy squaring Pluto has also a word in this. Or my Mars in 12th house conjunct Neptune, rather dreaming than actually acting on urges.

However, I also wonder, if lust is limited to the sexual implications or if it could also be an irrepressible desire for chocolate or reading or anything else.

In synastry it will be mostly expressed (or felt - if it`s expressed, could also depend on Mars especially) in sexual terms, making for a sexual hunger, but without the usual romantic implication. It`s probably more the "throwing onto the bed" than the "candlelight and soft music" scenario.

posted April 15, 2009 05:06 AM              

It would actually be great to find some very sexually active relationships with a strong synastric aspects of "Lust", without the usual Venus, Mars, Pluto and Eros-aspects. But I guess it would be difficult to find those.

posted April 15, 2009 05:28 AM              

yes I agree.

Also, your Lust-Mercury-conjunction could also mean that your lust is being triggered strongly by the mind of another person, the way they think, talk, probably even their voice.

Have you noticed that the voice of someone can be a turn on for you?

I am extremely sensitive to voices, and they can have even sensual effects on me (probably that is the reason I like the musical theatre so much, singing men - oh jeez, why do they have to be all gay or assholes?).

I`m not entirely sure where that comes from (in astrological terms).
BUT those men I feel drawn the strongest to their voice, have their MErcury in interesting place (in my chart).

For example:
Jude Law`s Mercury exactly conjuncts my Venus-Mars-mp, and I`m completely enthralled with his voice.

Richard Dean Anderson`s Mercury is conjunct my Sun-Moon-mp, conjunct my Antivertex and opposes my Eros and Pan (all exact aspects) - and I`m not going to go there.

My first musical crush has his Mercury on my IC opposing my Pluto and squaring my Venus - it definitely was the voice.

Another musical singer I like for his voice, caus it`s so sensual and youthful, has his Mercury conjunct my Mars, ASC and Lust.

And in your case with Lust on Mercury, maybe a Mercurian trait in men is extremely attractive to you?

EDIT: Oh I just realized something funny, I coincidentally picked men who have Mercury as ruler of angular houses.

Me: ruler of DSC

Jude: ruler of DSC

RDA: ruler of ASC

first musical crush: ruler of DSC and IC

that other musical singer: ruler of DSC and IC

posted April 15, 2009 06:15 AM            

If your Lust is on Jude's AC, he would be the one to feel the lust because it's in your chart touching him so you possess it and he would feel it.

Much like Sun-Pluto conjunction. It's the Sun person who is mesmerised by the Pluto person because the Pluto person has that Plutonian energy.

posted April 15, 2009 06:41 AM            

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Also, your Lust-Mercury-conjunction could also mean that your lust is being triggered strongly by the mind of another person, the way they think, talk, probably even their voice.
Have you noticed that the voice of someone can be a turn on for you?

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oh jeez, why do they have to be all gay or assholes?

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Jude Law`s Mercury exactly conjuncts my Venus-Mars-mp, and I`m completely enthralled with his voice.

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Another musical singer I like for his voice, caus it`s so sensual and youthful, has his Mercury conjunct my Mars, ASC and Lust.

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And in your case with Lust on Mercury, maybe a Mercurian trait in men is extremely attractive to you?

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EDIT: Oh I just realized something funny, I coincidentally picked men who have Mercury as ruler of angular houses.

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sorry 23...only just checked back in again...

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posted April 15, 2009 06:45 AM              

even though I like your interpretation very much, I`m not sure I agree.

I think that you can only feel what is triggered inside you (r chart).
So, if your Venus is triggered, you see the other person with Venusian-eyes. It might be something in the other person that triggered it, but it is YOU who feels the Venus-vibe.

Also, I think if your Pluto makes an aspect to someone else`s planets, you feel with your Plutonian-sense, meaning being all obsessed with the other person, even though at times wanting to suppress those intense feeling.
The other person will feel that obsession, and depending on the planet that is being touched, might react to that. If it`s Venus, they will be fascinated and mesmerized and feel that erotic pull quite strongly.

That is actually a good example for Jude`s and my synastry.
My Pluto squares his Sun and his Pluto squares my Venus.

Well, even though I may not "lust" after him, I am pretty obsessed with thinking of him, I think you can say that. How long have I been talking about him? For 3 years now? lol

His Pluto-my Venus, hmm, no idea. *whistles innocently* I have some sort of amnesia regarding that aspect.

But I remember vaguely two boys in school who had their Pluto square my Venus exactly and at times it felt like they were indeed obsessed with me. Even when I made clear that I was flattered (Venus!), but not really interested, they wouldn`t stop following me around.
One of them even started being very manipulative, trying to get some power over me, trying to lure me into secluded corners and rooms (I was not THAT naive, especially since he couldn`t keep his hands off me even in public), and it went so far, until I had a very uncharacteristic outburst of rage, using not so lady-like expressions of his behaviour. (interestingly both of them were Sagittarius. lol)

However, I was NEVER obsessed with them. But the time I was Pluto, WOW! Obsession? Definitely. My Pluto opposing this guy`s Mercury and Eros?
I hated to feel that way about him, but I was completely in his thrall.

And then t hat other guy whose Moon was conjunct my Venus and squaring my Pluto, I was on the verge of falling really really hard for him, despite knowing that he was interested in my friend. It was really hard to step back and to detach.
Well, it turned out he was a complete psycho afterwards, but neither my friend nor me could see that.
Interestingly HE was obsessed with my friend to the point of stalking her for quite a while, after she managed to break up with him (he wouldn`t let her).
His Pluto was conjunct her Venus and Mars and opposing her Moon.

posted April 15, 2009 06:46 AM            

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If your Lust is on Jude's AC, he would be the one to feel the lust because it's in your chart touching touching him so you possess it and he would feel it.

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Much like Sun-Pluto conjunction. It's the Sun person who is mesmerised by the Pluto person because the Pluto person has that Plutonian energy.

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With Lust conjunct AC, the AC person would be seen as more lustful in the presence of the Lust person. Maybe the way he would look at you could be seen as lusty.

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posted April 15, 2009 06:48 AM            

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even though I like your interpretation very much, I`m not sure I agree.

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posted April 15, 2009 06:51 AM            

Brilliant.

I loved this particularly.

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DD would be initiating it and Jude would try to respond but really can't because he is a point person (ASC). He would appreciate it at least. DD would be the only physically able to do something about it.

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posted April 15, 2009 07:10 AM              

good you`re back and sorry about the bad connection.

" tend to sound communication, ie the words that comes out of a person's mouth and what they think as a function of Mercury. I see the voice itself, the timbre, as a function of Venus."
Yes, I can see that. It`s interesting.

Well, it makes sense in my natal, as Taurus is on the cusp of my 5th house, and Venus is in Capricorn in 1st house.

"I have told people to be careful with how the say things, it's not what is said but how it is said, I think this is a function of all this as well."
Yes, and it`s really important HOW you say things. In which sign is your Mercury?

"LOL!"
No really, why?

"This is interesting, is it voice or thought process for you if you use my reasoning?"
Hmm, not easy to say.

His voice for sure. There`s something in that timbre, that just "rings a bell".

Thought-process? I don´t know.
Sometimes he`s disturbingly boring in interviews. But that is mostly because he has always his guard up, always in control, always the perfectionist and professional.

There are some moments, when he lets down his guard and that enthusiasm breaks through (Mercury in Sagittarius), and that`s what I really like.

But his thought process on the whole? I don`t really know. I guess I would have to discuss something significant with him to really know. lol

"YES!?! See above. Gemini for me is always a bit fatal. Mr 23's Sun and Venus is conj my Mars in Gemini. My Gemini Mars also falls in my 3rd which enhances it even MORE. And let's not forget it's my chart ruler and out of bounds too!"
I guess, I can only say Congratulations. best of all worlds.

"No, that's interesting. Not boring! Keep your eyes open for others, maybe there's a pattern expanding there. "
aCtually that IS a pattern I have repeatedly found in many other synastries as well, the prominence of the rulers of DSC and IC especially along with ASC-ruler of course.

But it`s really ridiculous how often there will be a connection between the ruler of the ASC-DSC-axis or ASC / DSC themselves and the IC or IC-ruler.

It makes it understandable, why Mercury aspects are so important to me.
Interestingly it`s mostly THEIR Mercury that is being bombarded by my planets or angles. (But somehow it also makes sense, if Mercury rules such important houses in their natals).