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DD
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posted May 01, 2009 02:50 PM
  
I was looking at a relationship horary, and I realized that one of the significators was in detriment and also in triplicity of the other person.
How do I interprete that now?
Also, does detriment or fall ALWAYS point towards loathing or disklike, or could it also be some kind of frustration or disappointment, especially if there are good and bad dignities at the same time?
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MyVirgoMask
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posted May 01, 2009 03:11 PM
I think it depends on the whole horary chart, from the little I do know. I don't think it's necessarily loathing with detriments, but some tension/conflict.
Again, it's hard to say without looking at the whole horary chart. IP: Logged |
DD
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posted May 01, 2009 03:31 PM
Thank you. 
I was looking at that horary.
And it struck me that Mars was next to Venus (the natural significator of the querent as a woman), and Moon was also her significator and was in fall and triplicity of Mars.
So does that mean Moon likes Mars or dislikes him?
(I know that this has nothing to do with the orginial question, but I had that impression, that even though the querent emotionally might like the questited: Moon in the exaltation of Jupiter, there seems to be another person - Mars- in the picture, which connects to her more feminine side)
So that question rose up inside my mind, how do I value mixed dignities?
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MyVirgoMask
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posted May 01, 2009 04:11 PM
WOW, that looks like a complex chart and question. I'm only learning simple yes/no questions in horary and don't know much about mixed dignities.I wonder with Venus/Mars in the 7th if there's another person involved? I don't know.
I don't think Moon dislikes Mars (she's not making any aspects to him), but I think she maybe doesn't understand him. I'll have to look into this more. Looks complex! IP: Logged |
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posted May 02, 2009 08:28 AM
your horary question looks like mine a bit: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/001648.html This post might help(hopefully)..lol IP: Logged |
Dreamy_AriesGirl
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posted May 02, 2009 12:07 PM
"one of the significators was in detriment and also in triplicity of the other person."DD, it usually appears in a relationship horary, when someone feels different than what he/she shows outside. (or different from how the others percieve him/her) So, it can show that he/she loves the other (triplicity), but acts as if he/she would not care at all (detriment).
And of course, it could be other way around, it depends on the situation. **
btw, when you use horary, its better to ask a yes/no question, becasue the answer would be more obvious. IP: Logged |
DD
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posted May 03, 2009 06:10 AM
Thank you all for your help.
I did as you suggested and posed a Yes-No-question.
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DD
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posted May 03, 2009 07:30 AM
her significators are:Mars in Aries in 5th house
Moon in Leo in 9th house
his significators are:
Venus in Aries in 5th house
Sun in Taurus in 7th house
Her significator Mars is in Aries in detriment and term of his significator Venus
Her significator Mars is also in the exaltation of Sun
Her significator Moon is in Leo in the sign of Sun (and almost in its triplicity)
Since Sun is represents the "animal-side" of man in horary, does that mean that she is physically attracted to him?
But what does it mean that her main significator is in the detriment of his significatore Venus?
from his side:
his main significator Venus is in Aries, ruled by her significator, and also in the face of Mars.
So he clearly is interested in her, may even love her?
His secodary significator Sun is in Taurus in the detriment of Mars, but in the exaltation, triplicity and Face of her other significator Moon.
So what does that mean?
her significator and his significator (Mars and Venus) are clearly conjunct.
BUT that conjunction will not reach exactness before leaving the sign. Does that influence the answer?
Also, the Moon is nearly void of course, only having that exact opposition to Jupiter. Opposition means separation, right?
It`s 29 seconds separating, though?
How do I interprete that? IP: Logged |
amowls*
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posted May 03, 2009 11:16 AM
Popping in to say that the Moon is void of course because it makes no applying aspects. Separating aspects indicate things that have happened in the past.Also Venus and Mars are conjunct but separating. He was interested in the past but no longer. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted May 03, 2009 11:20 AM
Right, void of course moon makes it very hard to read and all things are subject to change.Separating aspects are things that are going away/passing. Did you see this horary site, DD? It's pretty cool because it's very straight-forward:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12782 IP: Logged |
DD
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posted May 03, 2009 11:51 AM
Thank you both. I agree with all you said, except for one thing: Venus and Mars actually are not separating. They will stay in conjunction for some more weeks until they will be exactly conjunct; only after that Venus will move away from Mars again.
But I once read that a chart is only readable if the Moon is NOT voc, so I guess this chart is not even readable from the start?
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posted May 03, 2009 04:15 PM
DD,Unless the girl in this chart is you, then the significator is NOT Mars. It would be Venus. Since YOU are the one asking the question, YOU are Mars. You're asking about two "friends" I assume. Then the significator is Venus because it rules the 11th House of friends. You have to determine what relationship they are to you and get the correct significator. I'm sure you know that all ready but I needed to get clear. Who are they? Not their names, but what relationship are they to you? Is the original chart the one posted by Writesomething? If Writesomething is your friends, then when YOU ask about her, you're talking about the 11th House. IP: Logged |
DD
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posted May 03, 2009 04:26 PM
Don`t worry, Geo, I used the right significators.  IP: Logged |
Dreamy_AriesGirl
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posted May 04, 2009 09:47 AM
DDfrom a horary point of view, Venus and Mars are separating, because Venus wont catch Mars in Aries, and this is what matters now. Also, a VOC Moon in my views do not mean that the chart is unreadable.
If its VOC in the middle of a sign, than it means that in the near future no changes are expected.
If its VOC at the end of a sign (27-)then things are unsure, but sth will change soon, since the Moon is about to change signs.
And sometimes the VOC Moon is even favourable. For example if you ask "will the meeting happen as we arranged?" then a VOC Moon can show that everything will go as you planned (=no changes expected). And these are only the basic rules. Unfortunately now i have no time to help you more, but i wanted to drop these few lines. **
ps. always use Regiomontanus for horary charts IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil
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posted September 02, 2014 05:00 PM
Can somebody move this wisdom to the Horary forum, please?------------------
Tarot Readings | Etsy
Leo ♌️ Sun, (2nd House), Venus (3nd House)
Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House)
Cancer ♋ Rising
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