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Topic: Would you stop seeing someone for the sake of synastry?
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Aya_and_baby
Knowflake Posts: 99
From: Space (and sometimes Antwerp)
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 15, 2009 05:07 PM
 
It's just something that got into my head after seeing all those questions about synastry. Now I find it very interesting, especially when it comes to human interaction and how it occurs, but I honestly do not think it would have an effect on romance. I never check my new partner's synastry with my chart, if I even managed to get his chart data, and even if I do, I usually only get his birth data well into the relationship, at which point I already know whether we go well together or not.
Also very interesting is that those I had good synastry with, were partners I couldn't wait to get away from, and did once I had the chance and never missed them since. It just makes me wonder how much value we should really give to synastry.
Like I mentioned before, I think we should just look at synastry for how different characters interact with each other, regardless of any romantic notions. I certainly don't think a good synastry is a dead ringer for a good relationship especially not when one of the individual charts doesn't let it happen (a chart full of challenging aspects comes to mind; they are usually attracted to people whose synastry is challenging too but if that other person has mostly harmonic aspects, one of them is going to run away, regardless of the synastry and how appealing it is). So what's your take on synastry? IP: Logged |
lionseye***
Knowflake Posts: 47
From: edmonton, ab. ca
Registered: May 2009
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posted May 16, 2009 03:31 AM
I agree, Aya - sometimes we chase the best ones off and wreck ourselves trying with the WRONG ones, simply because we don't know ourselves or we don't like ourselves enough to do better. But regardless of whether you study astrology or not, it won't fly if both parties are not ready for love. Sounds like a cliche, but it's so true. If someone is not ready for love, they will just play with other's emotions, and use them as props in their own drama. The wise ones will pick up on that immediately and back away instinctively, but the niave will push on .... and then when it's over, they'll know better  There is no substitute for learning the hard way.
I think a soul-mate is someone who is at about the same level of evolution as you are, and you can forge ahead with new life lessons together, bouncing ideas off each other and coming to new conclusions together, about life, people, the world, how to BE in it...etc...IP: Logged |
origami_salami
Knowflake Posts: 21
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 16, 2009 05:10 AM
I would never let synastry influence the way I feel about a person, or be the deciding factor of whether to be in a relationship with them. That's what your heart is for! I've looked at literally hundreds of synastry charts over the years. I haven't found many trends in terms of healthy, long-term relationships and "good" synastry -- if anything, the relationships with some challenging components seem to last longer than ones full of easy aspects. I actually think the quantity of aspects is more important than how difficult or easy they are, since each aspect is basically a connection... and if you don't have many connections with a person, you won't feel as compelled to stay with them (unless the existing aspects are REALLY powerful). And of course, synastry alone won't tell you what each individual wants in a partner, how each behaves in a relationship, what transits/progressions are happening, etc. That said, if I do see major problem areas in my own synastry with someone, I try to proceed with some caution. This is because I am typically blinded with infatuation at the beginning of a relationship (natal Venus in Aries square Neptune -- ugh!), and tend to idealize the other person and ignore any warning signals until reality comes crashing down. And more often than not, the problem areas are blatantly obvious in the synastry. I find it helpful to be aware of potential rough spots from early on; it helps me stay grounded. Otherwise I do crazy things like getting engaged to someone I've only known for a week. :/ IP: Logged |
vertiver
Knowflake Posts: 47
From: Portland, OR, USA
Registered: May 2009
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posted May 16, 2009 01:46 PM
I'm pretty new to Synastry, but I think it really just further emphasizes whatever connection you have with a person. But composite charts are even trickier, for instance what if you have a really good synastry chart but the composite ins't so good looking or vice versa. The weirdest part about synastry is when it brings out your own natal aspects between someone else. IP: Logged |
scrappydog
Knowflake Posts: 19
From: Texas
Registered: May 2009
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posted May 16, 2009 02:01 PM
Synastry always influences how I feel about someone and how much I trust them for the sole reason that it's always RIGHT.IP: Logged |
Coffee
Knowflake Posts: 384
From: Leeds
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 16, 2009 02:56 PM
Very possibly. Not much point in me studying astrology all this time and then not applying it. It can be good to work out the hidden aspects of human interaction, something you may not face until deep into the relationship. Not just talking about synastry, but the persons natal and also the composite. You can normaly see a refelction of the astrology through interaction with the person. If you dont get each other or not comfortable, the astrology should reflect. Harsh to operate in this way?
Some would agree, but how many potential partners in the world? One or two  IP: Logged |
Coffee
Knowflake Posts: 384
From: Leeds
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 16, 2009 03:14 PM
Very possibly. Not much point in me studying astrology all this time and then not applying it. It can be good to work out the hidden aspects of human interaction, something you may not face until deep into the relationship. Not just talking about synastry, but the persons natal and also the composite. You can normaly see a refelction of the astrology through interaction with the person. If you dont get each other, or not comfortable, the astrology should reflect. Harsh to operate in this way?
Some would agree, but how many potential partners in the world? One or two IP: Logged |
Fleurdelis
Knowflake Posts: 27
From: A symbolic tree, Earth
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 16, 2009 03:51 PM
I find that predestination sometimes comes and smacks people in the face. It's like the universe's warning not to meddle with the space-time continuum and the akashic records ;-)Converse to the topic, I would not start seeing someone based on the good synastry or composite. Of course, am tempted to, and will check - thats the curse of knowledge and curiosity, sometimes. I am always reminded of Macbeth's symbolisms here. Some things you expect are really not what they seem, because there is either a hidden trojan planet (or transit), or it's just not meant to be. Sometimes, forecasting instead of experiencing the relationship naturally can cause cognitive distortions that may put expectations, and many layers of prejudices or preconceived ideas. It's like taking away the innocence of natural dating. Though of course it can be helpful, sometimes doing things spontaneously instead of basing on a protocol is way better. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 329
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 16, 2009 04:04 PM
Yeah, I think the synastry should be surrogate to the live connection. I also think that this lesson kind of gets resolved over time regardless. If you let synastry dictate whether you go for someone, I'm sure there will come a time when someone with mediocre synastry really captures your imagination, and quite possible compels you into a relationship with them anyway. For example, my last relationship didn't have great synastry, and lasted two years (with a remarkably peaceful, unhurtful ending):  IP: Logged |
blue moon
Knowflake Posts: 244
From: U.K
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 17, 2009 04:00 AM
Astrology helps me fine tune my intuition. It's symbolic. Sometimes it gets applied too literally. The problem I see here is that it can be relied on too much and means we have stopped listening to our gut instincts. IP: Logged |
Writesomething
Knowflake Posts: 893
From: meet me in montauk
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 17, 2009 04:08 AM
I dont know. I would just be more cautious over certain things. this is a difficult question. IP: Logged |
Peri
Moderator Posts: 201
From: 50N26 30E31
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 17, 2009 04:34 AM
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Writesomething
Knowflake Posts: 893
From: meet me in montauk
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 17, 2009 08:43 AM
AG,
I need to be creative with my charts like yours. Good idea with the colors.IP: Logged |
comica23
Knowflake Posts: 62
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 17, 2009 04:19 PM
Basically, I see astrology as a system of symbolism that if I can identify certain situations with it, then I'd use it to help me sort things out. For example, if I can identify certain things of myself with my natal chart, then I can use my natal chart to sort certain things about myself out.
So actually, if I can't really find meaning in certain things astrology says (whether about myself, others or relationships), then it doesn't really affect me.I guess that while synastry can show similarities and differences between two person, a composite can be more relevant about how the relationship actually is. But well, there were times in which I must confess that I did get overly obsessed. :P But I still follow my feelings rather. IP: Logged |
VirgOh
Knowflake Posts: 23
From: New Jersey, USA
Registered: May 2009
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posted May 17, 2009 05:18 PM
Not if the sex is good IP: Logged |
good girl
Knowflake Posts: 85
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 17, 2009 05:27 PM
No, I wouldn't and I didn't. However I saw what was coming down the road and at the time it was just .........well, I guess I couldn't imagine what I saw (mars opposite sun) as really being an issue.(I make him mad, without even trying. We get along great. But those times I FEEL the martian energy and it seems more than this libra moon can bear)We have a great marriage, but IT IS AN ISSUE! IP: Logged |
Alia
Knowflake Posts: 147
From: az
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 17, 2009 05:32 PM
Lmao virgOH!!!Are u a M or F ? i think if synastry is bad enough you ll stop seeing the partner eventually...
it ll happen by itself.
u can just run before is too late! like, i need to stay away from scorpios..
dunno why. my mars is scorpio too. IP: Logged |
good girl
Knowflake Posts: 85
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 17, 2009 05:34 PM
Another thing I want to add. Once I had a great combo w/ someone else. And they pulled away after the 2nd meeting. I thought how can that be with all those GREAT combos. Well mercury was retrograde and the next time I saw that person it was all on again. So the synastry was right there was that connection after all. It was a matter of letting mercury straighten out. IP: Logged |
VirgOh
Knowflake Posts: 23
From: New Jersey, USA
Registered: May 2009
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posted May 17, 2009 07:58 PM
Male.IP: Logged |
mblover
Knowflake Posts: 47
From:
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 17, 2009 11:12 PM
I would if you are talking about eventual goal of life long marriage. I have 90% water in the chart. Without any doubts, I will put down any person who is 60%+ Air or Fire. 70%+ Earth. It's a simple math for me due to a rather very easy chart! But, I would not recommend the same theory to others as everyone has a free will and some people have a lot of free time including their entire life to experiment Squares and Opposites.IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 329
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 18, 2009 01:02 PM
Thanks writesomething. IP: Logged |
amowls*
Knowflake Posts: 175
From: richmond va
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 18, 2009 05:03 PM
I mean, if I'm into someone and take a look at their chart and I see something scary~ there's obviously a reason why I'm drawn to it. Tense aspects have a magnetism to them, I find. It makes the relationship more exciting.I have a pretty tense natal chart when it comes to my Venus/7th house anyway. Venus squares Uranus in all of my synastry charts because I have it with anyone my age. I would be alone if I turned down everyone because of that. IP: Logged |
Belage
Knowflake Posts: 46
From: California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 19, 2009 12:59 AM
Um, yes. There are certain aspects that I will not bother with. IP: Logged |
Virgovenusleo
Knowflake Posts: 107
From: unknown
Registered: May 2009
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posted May 20, 2009 03:05 AM
No I love the "difficult " aspects of synastry in linda's book she even said something about karmic jewels when succeeding throught he tough aspects.IP: Logged |
eve
Knowflake Posts: 86
From: jane
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 21, 2009 04:21 PM
I'd stop seeing someone for a klondike bar.I don't see synastry as something separate from the reality of the experience. If the reality tells me things are going well, then I'll assume the danger spots the synastry point to are manifesting in ways that I can handle (and maybe even enjoy). I can tell pretty early on how I meld with someone in a relationship (I'm including friendships here too). I'm not going to discount how I'm experiencing the synastry in real life, for how the synastry is described abstractly in a book. Maybe I'm twisted and the book is basing its analysis on normal people. Also, synastry aspects won't be experienced identically with different people. An aspect that bit me in the @ss in the past, may not do that with someone else. I let the experience tell me how the synastry is working with someone (not the other way around). IP: Logged |
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