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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted June 09, 2009 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
well, in order to stop the cycle for me, forgiveness and release excersizes and also a whole new deliberate way of thinking that evolves over time and with deliberation. it's all i know.
i actually pray even that my thoughts and actions would be such as to bring good things into my life.
tryingto let go of things and patterns that are not for my good, and making room for the right things to enter into my life.
i'm not perfect, but i'm getting better.

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posted June 09, 2009 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I kept thinking that I had pastlife as a Nazi too. I think that incarnating as multiracial,neurodivergent male that doesn't fit male stereotypes and has conflicts with organized religion is to help me resolve karma that involves diversity matters.


There is an asteroid called Nasi

Mine is in 24'45 Scorpio conjunct my 2nd/9th house ruler Venus in 21'47 Scorpio in 3rd.


in the declinations:

Nasi - 18'41 South
parallel Neptune - 18'57 South
parallel Mercury - 18'24 South
parallel Venus - 18'10 South
contraparallel Saturn - 19'02 North


Last Sunday, I found that I have heliocentric Nasi Nodes in 2'54 Gemini/Sagittarius in my 9th and 3rd house squaring my Moon in 3'11 Pisces in 6th. Alpha Piscis Austrinus, Fomalhaut (one of the 4 Royal Stars) in 3'28 Pisces conjuncts my Moon.

Fomalhaut
A Royal Star. Archangel Gabriel, the Watcher of the South. Congenital birth defects, magic, fame, occult, faith, "Star of Alchemy", addiction, undesirable associates

I could have pastlife issues that involve matters of faith,occult,magic,addition,and undesirable associates. It's believe by some that the Nazi party had occult connections.


The Heliocentric Nasi Nodes have been between 2 and 3 degrees Gemini in the 20th thru 21st century.

heliocentric nodes of any object move up to 1 degree per century, and so they are very slow moving.
They have to do with collective matters. The South Heliocentric Node has to do with pastlife karma involving the collective

geocentric nodes of an object move relatively quickly. They have to do with personal karma. The South Geocentric Node has to do with pastlife karma that is personal.

my South Geocentric Nasi Node in 26'25 Scorpio in 3rd
square my 3rd/8th house ruler Mars in 25'54 Aquarius in 6th

The kuiper belt dwarf planet,Eris seems to have to do with ideology,diversity,controversy,discord
with it having an orbit of over 500 years, it pertains to generations

The Eris Nodes could be collective karma involving those matters.

I have retrograde Eris in 12'14 Aries in 8th
conjunct retrograde Chiron in 10'30 Aries in 8th
sextile Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini
sextile North Lunar Node in 10'29 Aquarius in 5th

in declinations:

Eris - 14'25 South
parallel Mars - 15'13 South
contraparallel Pluto - 14'04 North

in Right Ascension,
Eris semisquare Moon with 7 minutes of arc, at the midpoint of my Moon square Saturn.
It is also quincunx the sextile of Venus and kuiper belt dwarf planet,Haumea for a Yod.


South Eris Node in 5'30 Scorpio in 2nd
conjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd

The Eris Nodes have been between 5 and 6 degrees in Scorpio in 20th century thru 21st century


The Eris Nodes were square Adolf Hitler's Midheaven less than 1 degree.
He also had a 5th harmonic configuration involving Moon,Saturn,Neptune,and Eris.

Adolf Hitler's nazi propaganda minister,Joseph Goebbels was born on October 29th like me. Therefore, he had Sun conjunct South Eris Node too.

so both Eris and Nasi and its nodes might give insight into pastlives involving Nazis as well as other matters that involving ideology,diversity.
http://www.megadelfi.com/~jonathan/pos/

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DD
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posted June 09, 2009 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
This talk about Nazi`s makes me feel REALLY uncomfortable.

Not just because I had several dreams placed in this age.
It just has always affected me real badly emotionally, even when I was just a little child.

I remember that I have given that a LOT of thought, strange thougths for a 12 year old to really seriously think about how you can forgive something like that.
I remember I felt really bad about it, being 12 years old, and realizing that I couldnīt forgive.

It was strange it affected me much more than the other pupils at school. For example I once even were running out of the classroom, when the teacher was showing a film about a concentrationcamp. I just completely lost it.
It`s gruesome just to think about the feelings this evoked in me, and I honestly I donīt have any idea how those who survived the camp, could build some sort of life again. They have my biggest admiration. To be able to start living again, after all they had to endure.

Sorry, I got carried away again, but as I said it REALLY makes me feel uneasy. More than uneasy really.
But of course I know that this is partly because of all these dreams and the feelings attached to these dreams.

You know what is really strange? I think when Pluto was discovered it was exactly on my nice little retograde Saturn, or actually Transit Pluto was there, where Saturn was when I was born.

EDIT:
I checked it:

in Pluto`s discovery:
Pluto was on 17°45 Cancer retograde - my Saturn is on 16°56 Cancer retograde


Uranus was on 09°05 Aries - my Pluto is on 09°05 Libra

Pluto was on 6°55 Gemini - my Draco Moon is on 6°56 Gemini and DSC on 7°01 Gemini


Actually between the Pluto-discovery chart and my chart there is a DW of Pluto-Saturn-aspect

The discovery`s Pluto conjuncts my Saturn; discovery`s Saturn exactly squares my Pluto.


I am not sure what that means that my chart has these interaspects with the discovery chart of Pluto, though. Probably nothing at all.

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posted June 09, 2009 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
dd - i understand. that is one of the two reasons i don't delve into this past life stuff much.

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posted June 09, 2009 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
DD,

It's alright


Pluto's discovery Stationary South Lunar Node in 5'10 Scorpio conjunct my Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd!

That also means that Pluto's discovery's Lunar Nodes are on the heliocentric Eris Nodes.

Pluto discovery's Mars in 9'20 Aquarius conjunct my North Lunar Node in 10'30 Aquarius in 5th

Its Venus between 2 and 3 degrees Pisces conjunct my Moon in 3'11 Pisces in 6th.
Its Jupiter in 6'55 Gemini and Ceres in 7'23 Gemini conjunct my retrograde Saturn in 5'08 Gemini


I definitely have strong connections to Pluto's Discovery Chart....especially Sun conjunct stationary South Lunar Node.


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posted June 09, 2009 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I understand.

Yet, my dreams force me to, even though luckily I haven`t dreamed of that time for quite some time.

But from time to time I have to re-address those feelings again.

It`s so strange, cause in some way I am "connected" to both sides. On the one hand my own feelings and dreams and these nightmares.
On the other hand my grandparents had to "escape" from where they lived at the end of the war. And the Russians and especially the Polish people they encountered weren`t really "human" after all. But that`s what war does to you - it makes you inhuman, most of the people.

And I have heard stories from my Grandma, that I am sure no little girl should know about in that age. But th en again my grandma shouldnīt have experienced them in no age. No woman and no man should have, regardless of nationality.

It`s hard to keep on thinking in "black and white", with all of that in mind.

But I guess it must be family karma in my case.

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posted June 09, 2009 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
BTW what is the other reason, if you want to share?

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posted June 09, 2009 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
funny this has turned on this point right now; the CNJ conjunction is squaring algol and the neo-nazi parties in europe just sent several members to the european parliament. while the conservatives here are worrying that the us will turn into a reborn ussr just as they were in the 30's here...

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posted June 09, 2009 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Raymond,

that is interesting.

"uto's discovery Stationary South Lunar Node in 5'10 Scorpio conjunct my Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd!"
Wow! That is close.


"Pluto discovery's Mars in 9'20 Aquarius conjunct my North Lunar Node in 10'30 Aquarius in 5th"
You remember that you mentioned the asteroid "nasi"?

It falls on 11°23 Leo in my chart conjunct my retro Draco Chiron on 09°52 Leo and opposing my Draco DNA on 10°10 Aquarius.


"ts Venus between 2 and 3 degrees Pisces conjunct my Moon in 3'11 Pisces in 6th. "
my family name falls on 02°08 Pisces.


"Its Jupiter in 6'55 Gemini and Ceres in 7'23 Gemini conjunct my retrograde Saturn in 5'08 Gemini"
So that means that your Saturn opposes my Mars and conjuncts my DSC and Draco Moon.


"I definitely have strong connections to Pluto's Discovery Chart....especially Sun conjunct stationary South Lunar Node."
What do you think it does mean, if someone like the two of us have strong links to the discovery chart of a planet or an "used to be" planet?


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posted June 09, 2009 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
i have a friend that suggested we meditate together a few years ago. he was insistant about me trying it with him, back to back. and so we did. this has been maybee 6 years ago.
he lost his mind that day and has not been right since.
we are talking about a productive smart homeowner solid friends for years with no pre-disposition for mental illness.

he told me things that didnt make sense. about me about voices about his experience....said voices told him to harm his daughter, which he had in a car going out of state over 100 mph. spent over a year in the clink, found god and now is clinging to that outlet and like i said, he has not been right since that day and i shy away from that type of thing FOR SURE.

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posted June 09, 2009 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Cpn,

I definitely can understand this, This is a horrible experience and how it turned out.

And yes I think this is nothing to toy around with.
I even stopped meditating for a while when I had my first past life recall, and I`m pretty careful when it comes to these things.
I know how it feels, how you can come close to this edge of losing your mind. I thought I had been there, in my puberty. When I suddenly would have the most horrible visions, which even more gruesome turned out to be true (only into the past, never into the future though), and they haunted me ever since.
It took a LOT of work to stabilize myself again, and even more courage to open up to spirituality again. You know you never know who or what might come to that door, once you opened it.

Luckily I didn`t lose my mind; but my horizon, or what I believe is possible in the mind, expanded more than I probably was ready or able to deal with back then.

The load or the burden that remained are some periods of undefinable fear as I experience them now and then, but usually I manage to ground myself again.

But I know how it feels if (irrational) fear is eating you from inside and I can imagine that some experiences could even break a mind or even a soul.
It`s sad, and yes, it`s dangerous.

So I can understand why you don`t want to get too deep into it.

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posted June 10, 2009 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
<<i have a friend that suggested we meditate together a few years ago. he was insistant about me trying it with him, back to back. and so we did. this has been maybee 6 years ago.
he lost his mind that day and has not been right since.
we are talking about a productive smart homeowner solid friends for years with no pre-disposition for mental illness. >>

Classic case of Premature Kundalini Crisis. This is why one should be wary of any kind of Kundalini Yoga or Past Life Regression without first seeking DIvine Protection or Higher Self Connection.

If all of us knew all our past lifelines in an instant, 99.9% would go insane. We only need to know what the Higher Self shows thru vivid dreams.

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posted June 10, 2009 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
i find it interesting you added yoga to that list.

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posted June 10, 2009 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with IQ.

The Higher Self will let us know what we need to know.

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posted June 10, 2009 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Wow cpn_edgar_winner can you remember what you recovered during this meditation? Thats intense!
Why did your friend choose you to meditate with?
I absolutely do not fear any past life regression or kundalini activation... I think it's a matter of perception, with two eyes you see it but with your third eye you are in it... Thats why we close our eyes to experience pleasurable things... music, kissing, delicious food etc. It is union... Closing your eyes reveals the third eye...
Does anyone else see colors or patterns when they close their eyes or is it all just darkness?

Anyway there are no coincidences. Atlantis was flooded right? Are we heading towards flooding becuase of global warming? Are there aliens out there stealing our resources and creating the global warming that will envitably lead to the melting of huge ice caps and mass flooding (am I adding to conspiracy theorists?)
Whats the connecttion with the Nazi's and Atlantis?.... Jupiter conjunct Neptune (large flooding) in Aquarius (rebalancing the Karma from Atlantis in the age of Leo?)

In the Bible (Revelation 4:&) it refers to the bull, the lion, eagle and the man... surely a reference to astrology but also perhaps to the fixed axis and a key understanding of Atlantis?

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posted June 10, 2009 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
well, i do see colors and patterns. but i also have a hard time shutting off my mind or knowing how to relax in general. so my perceptions are and have always been kind of zippy.

he was using this meditation series and i really dont know why he wanted me to share in it. it was like he said, i have the answer, kind of thing. i do recall the things he said after and the events that folllowed.

during the excercise i had to ground myself and "come back", i am not comfortable talking about the whole thing as i somehow feel in a small way responsible. it was in the news and not cool when he went off the deep end. i never told anyone the things he said to me that day. not one person.

he lost literally everything. his job,his mind, his daughter. everything.

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posted June 10, 2009 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
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posted June 10, 2009 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Get married. You are with the one you love... Past life should not determine this life. You are not the same person you were. Thats part of the illusion I think. You are one... and all. So just be one. Don't allow yourself to be split by one or another lifetime, you are the sum total of them all here and now.

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posted June 10, 2009 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
oh i know. i ceased contact with him immediately. iam not the one who lost my mind that day.

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posted June 11, 2009 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
<< Past life should not determine this life. >>
Well said Quinnie. If I started feeling guilty for my past life crimes, I would have to be a monk in a tibetan monastry and starve for a thousand years. Past is past and over, we only need to learn form the mistakes and not repeat them in this life. Every now and then there is a karmic debt but hey, it is like paying just a one time interest and no need to payback the capital...

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posted June 11, 2009 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I definitely see colours and patterns, whenever I close my eyes, even in absolute darkness. Sometimes it`s distracting.

And sometimes I see images, flashing through behind my closed eyes. Usually too fleeting and quick to grasp them. Sometimes one of these images lingers.
Images of all kind btw. Very beautiful ones as horrible ones.

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posted June 12, 2009 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Could Algol have anything to do with ethnic cleansing?... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31246353/

DD
"I definitely see colours and patterns, whenever I close my eyes, even in absolute darkness. Sometimes it`s distracting.
And sometimes I see images, flashing through behind my closed eyes. Usually too fleeting and quick to grasp them. Sometimes one of these images lingers.
Images of all kind btw. Very beautiful ones as horrible ones."

Yes me too. Perhaps that is the norm though and people just don't talk about it.

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posted June 12, 2009 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Yes probably all people have these experiences.

Some will just not talk about it. and Others might experience it, yet since it doesnīt seem to make sense to them, they probably "forget" about it again.

My mother sometimes said I am "half-autistic", cause I am so sensitive to light and noises; so much in fact that it caused withdrawel at some points in my life as i couldnīt bear it anylonger (and then I went and became a teacher. LOL Tough therapy. )


But one source of the problems for autistic people is, that they can`t filter out all these "background" perceptions; they seem to perceive nearly anything, which makes them so very sensitive.


I am no autist, but sometimes I have periods, when it is nearly impossible to shut out those perceptions (usually it is light or sound, but sometimes it also is sensory).
maybe that is why I remember seeing those images and hearing those sounds, and often waking up with a melody in my head, really hearing it.

I am not really a musical person, but at times I sit down with a note sheet and I can literally hear the music in my head. Well, it is a neat little thing, so you won`t get bored. lol

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posted June 12, 2009 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
"My mother sometimes said I am "half-autistic", cause I am so sensitive to light and noises; so much in fact that it caused withdrawel at some points in my life as i couldnīt bear it anylonger (and then I went and became a teacher. LOL Tough therapy."


"But one source of the problems for autistic people is, that they can`t filter out all these "background" perceptions; they seem to perceive nearly anything, which makes them so very sensitive."


"I am no autist, but sometimes I have periods, when it is nearly impossible to shut out those perceptions (usually it is light or sound, but sometimes it also is sensory)."


That's typical of many neurodivergents. It's labeled sensory integration issues.

It is said that about 70 percent of people with learning disabilities have sensory integration issues. That they are the highest in ADHD and Autistic Spectrum conditions. Many of those conditions overlap in symptoms and are comorbid with each other.

I am the same way, but I know that I am not autistic because I don't have problems with perceiving emotional/social cues. My mother even pointed out that as a baby, I was perceptive of facial expressions. She also told me how I'd make my own sign language to help others understand me when I didn't have intelligible speech when I was 2 years old.

I would say that I was autistic-like with my combination of Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD, and that got me misplaced with the mentally retarded in 1st grade.

some believe that Dyspraxia and Sensory Integration Disorder is one and the same.
The hallmark of Dyspraxia is coordination problems.

I take cod liver oil to tone down my hypersensitivity.

I also want to point out that ultrasensitivity could just be a highly sensitive person like based on Elaine Aron's book. She warned in the book,THE HIGHLY SENSITIVE CHILD that the highly sensitive child could be seen as having sensory integration disorder and be given therapy to correct it.

I can totally relate to HSP.

I have problem with her books. She seems to try to separate neurodivergents from highly sensitive people. That makes no sense to me. It's not black and white. Not all HSP's have the same traits.


If you find you are highly sensitive, or your child is, you need to begin by knowing the following:

* Your trait is normal. It is found in 15 to 20% of the population--too many to be a disorder, but not enough to be well understood by the majority of those around you.
* It is innate. In fact, biologists have found it to be in most or all animals, from fruit flies and fish to dogs, cats, horses, and primates. This trait reflects a certain type of survival strategy, being observant before acting. The brains of highly sensitive persons (HSPs) actually work a little differently than others'.
* You are more aware than others of subtleties. This is mainly because your brain processes information and reflects on it more deeply. So even if you wear glasses, for example, you see more than others by noticing more.
* You are also more easily overwhelmed. If you notice everything, you are naturally going to be overstimulated when things are too intense, complex, chaotic, or novel for a long time.
* This trait is not a new discovery, but it has been misunderstood. Because HSPs prefer to look before entering new situations, they are often called "shy." But shyness is learned, not innate. In fact, 30% of HSPs are extraverts, although the trait is often mislabeled as introversion. It has also been called inhibitedness, fearfulness, or neuroticism. Some HSPs behave in these ways, but it is not innate to do so and not the basic trait.
* Sensitivity is valued differently in different cultures. In cultures where it is not valued, HSPs tend to have low self-esteem. They are told "don't be so sensitive" so that they feel abnormal. http://www.hsperson.com/


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posted June 12, 2009 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I definitely see colours and patterns, "whenever I close my eyes, even in absolute darkness. Sometimes it`s distracting.

"And sometimes I see images, flashing through behind my closed eyes. Usually too fleeting and quick to grasp them. Sometimes one of these images lingers.
Images of all kind btw. Very beautiful ones as horrible ones."


Is that seeing things in the mind's eye?

I am primarily a visual,picture thinker, and so I am continuously having mental images that I see in my mind's eye. It tends to be a problem because the visual,picture thinking tends to interfere with my processing language whether listening,speaking,writing,and reading. The mental images can be altered easily to reflect the language that I am processing.....so when I read a book or somebody is telling a story, it's a movie playing in my head. Non-stop visualization.

I guess that's reflected by the Neptune in 3rd,Mercury parallel Neptune,and Mercury conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint.
even my Mercury in Scorpio is in the Pisces decanate.

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