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etherealenlightenment
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posted June 12, 2009 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Izo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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HAHA sorry... I'll stop with the sex talk...

LOL. No problem. It's always nice to hear people out there are having sex. Especially since you're not. Sorry, just teasing. Sex talk away, I don't mind...

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Well the thing is he did grow up in a strict household, but it was an all male household. His mother abandoned him and his brother when he was very young

Now this complicates my theory quite a bit. Yes, I can see the strictness from Pluto, Saturn and Mars in his 4th, especially since they kind of square his Asc and Dsc (Pluto probably shouldn't be considered because the orb is too wide). But they're quite well aspected... Was he abused in any way by any of them? He has Lilith in the 8th.
His mother abandoning him... I'm really sorry about that. IC has Libra on the cusp, feminine sign... Venus positioned in the 12th, exalted, can indicate he didn't know his Mom, but he probably wanted to and maybe has an idealized perception about her, perhaps he secretely wished she'd come and rescue him from that harsh life. Perhaps he sees the women in his life (you) like that, too.
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He also told me that I'm basically the most meaningful relationship he ever had, and so with his other gf's he did it all the time, but he said he doesn't want me to think that's all he wants from me. On many occasions, I assured him that that's NOT the case at all... that he needn't be afraid of that... so could it be partially that he views sex as less intimate? as in he associates it with just meaningless hookups?

I don't know. I guess that could happen, yes. It's hard to psychoanalyze somebody to such depth in their absence lol.

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posted June 12, 2009 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 13, 2009 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Izo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Actually, no, he doesn't idealize his mother at all. In fact, he was angry at her for leaving for a long time when he was young, but now it seems that he doesn't particularly care (or at least he doesn't seem to.)

It's not surprising he was angry with her for leaving him. But I also think, for a while, he DID idealize his Mom and he desperately prayed that she would come back. Obviously he learnt to supress this kind of vulnerability and any good feelings he had for her, especially since she disappointed him again by not returning (he has Chiron in his 11th house, of hopes and ideals and of love received - Chiron is something from the past we cannot get over, something that no matter how much time has passed since, it still hurts us; it is a stong clue he felt unloved and probably thinks he's unworthy of it).
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He and his father don't really get along. They don't see eye-to-eye on anything. He looked at him as a tyrant for a long time, even jokingly calling him TREX

There is some disagreement between astrologers regarding which parent is represented in the 4th and 10th houses. I personally think the 4th house should show the nurturing parent, which is usually the mother, but not always, and the 10th house - the more authoritive parent, the father. In this case, the nurturing parent would be Venus exiled in the 12th (the absent mother) and his father would be Mars in Scorpio (his nocturnal domicile), presnt in the 4th house of the nurturing parent and conjunct Saturn. Mars is angular and in domicile, Mars is very strong and has a lot of power on the child (better said, the child is powerless in front of him, making him a rebel later on in the hope to regain some of his personal power). No wonder he considered him a tyrant. Instead of receiving love and caring, he received discipline, maybe some occasional violence. (you still haven't answered if he was abused in any way as a child)

*There are 2 things I find puzzling regarding his Mom/Dad representation in the chart:
-the Mom indicators (natural indicator, the Moon + 4th house ruler, Venus) are both in Cancer, Moon in domicile and Venus exalted. This made me say the Mother was idealized. Also because they're in the 12th, Neptune's element, the house of dreams and imagination. Because you see, the human mind loves to work with myths and archetypes. An absent parent can have multiple reactions from the child's imagination. We all had our imaginary worlds where we made up stories about how life should be, and especially about our parents, because they are our world. It is said the boy learns how to become a man from his father's example, but he does this FOR his mother. The mother was absent, this effort had to be projected onto something (like the mother's myth and the hope she will come back FOR HIM, if he becomes a strong man) or towards someone else (was there another female presence to substitute her?). Anyhow, his feelings for his mother are indicative of his issues with women. I hope he doesn't hate her, because that would really make it difficult for him to trust another woman (he'd think she will only abandon him, like his mother did).

-the second puzzling this is that he is a New Moon baby... New Moon in Cancer and the 12th. Moon is the Mother, Sun is a symbol for the father and they are in conjunction. Moreso, the Sun's depositor is the Moon. Weird...

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posted June 13, 2009 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Izo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd also like to know the following:
-at what age did his Mom leave?
-does he have any memories of her?
-why did she leave (the reason he was told vs what he believes)?
-how do the rest of the family members feel about her leaving?

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Indian Bollywood actor Shiny Ahuja allegedly raped his 18 yr old domestic help today, and has been imprisoned based on prelimnary findings.

He is born on May 15, 1973.

On the night of the alleged rape, Sun was exactly conjunct his LUST. He also has NN conjunct Natal KARMA and Tr KARMA conj Natal Pluto.... NESSUS is conj LUST by 2 degrees so yesterday Nessus may have been activated.

Incidentally, he has AMOR exact square Valentine as well. A warped sense of expressing love that degenrated to sexual abuse when LUST got activated along with karmic conjunctions?

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posted June 15, 2009 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I can see that astrological interpretation, IQ, but it doesn`t always have to be that way. Especially if Lust and Sun are NOT connected to Nessus, wouldn`t there be a chance to express this in more healthy ways?

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posted June 15, 2009 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Truly, there are so many healthy ways to express this but this particular actor chose the wrong path, partly due to the natal chart stresses as well.

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posted November 27, 2016 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Necroposting, because I can. Heh.

SUN conjunct LUST (1°) in Cancer, 8H, with SUN as 9R, housing VENUS. Exactly square URA in 11H, widely opposite MARS in 5H.

I've given up trying to sort out that particular conundrum.

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posted January 13, 2025 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have sun conjunct lust, sun ruler of 1st - i am not realy that lustful person sometimes im afraid i am frigid lol its in gemini so most of my sexy toughts stay just toughts, weirdly i dont like sexting - but man the things in my head / rareeeely a man makes me want him, usualy when i like someone i imagine romantic scenarious BUT this one guy we have lust conjunct juno, trine lilith, opposite eros, conjunct moon, square venus , qlsooo my lust and sun fall in his 8th house. His eyes triggered all that in me lol only eye contact

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