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They are probably lusty.

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I believe asteroid Lust adds passion and intensity to the planet conjunct, Lust indues it with overwhelming desire and craving, not necessarily sexual ... I have Mars/Lust/Venus conjunct in Aries - am not lustful but quite intense, I guess Pluto opposition adds to it too... but I agree Lust can also manifest as a high sex drive and/or promiscuity

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I don't think I say lustful things

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maybe you think them?

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posted June 12, 2009 03:16 AM            

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Oh yeah baby, let me clean your ears out!

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Speaking of ears, I can't get this out of my mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUg6QlSI4e8 . Mostly because of the guitars, but those lyrics!

Lust conjunct Sun. And Pholus, which, to me, always sounded like Phallus. In Aries.

I don't think of myself as lusty. I mean, I don't act in a lusty way. I'm not sexually impulsive, nor promiscous, I've only been with one man. But if there would be somebody out there who read minds, I'd be all red in the face.
I agree with Peri about the intensity thing. My Sun & Lust are parallel Pluto. But that's mainly on the inside, the outside is cold and bit cynical (Cap Asc) and so far I haven't met anybody able to bring it all out.

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Lust conjunct Mars, Neptune, NN and ASC in my chart.

No, I am not lusty either.
But as you all said: thoughts are free to roam.

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Idon`t know, maybe it can go both ways.

I think Gene Simmons also had Lust on his NN, and in his case it DEFINITELY was expressed very openly.

Anyway in my case there is Neptune sitting on it, so It hink I maybe live it in a filtered way, filtered through fantasy or even spirituality.

Yet I am aware of the fact, that I`m not one to resist a temptation easily, especially if it comes in the form of chocolate at the moment.
If I want to eat, I WANT and I do not care for any good reasons to not.

I assume IF I allowed myself to feel that Lust-Mars-asc-NN conjunction in an erotic context, I would maybe have some difficulties to resist, too.
But I have a strong selfcontrol BECAUSE I know, that I actually have a weak will when it comes to temptations.
I know about my weakness, that has been one of the reasons I always stayed away from alcohol and drugs, too. I feared that I might get sucked into that vortex too easily.

Also maybe my lust for chocolote is a substitute for something else, and believe me that particular craving can get really extreme - for chocolate.

BTW Mars rules my 4th house and Neptune rules my 3rd house, my lust for communication about feelings never ceases.

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yes, Ether, it can go both ways of course, there is free will - always, I think Sun conj Lust in Cancer in the 12th makes him secretive and sort of shy and his passionate nature may stay hidden and unnoticed for most of his acquaintances

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What sign does he have on the 8th cusp? What planets in it? Also in the 5th? (they're both associated with sex drive) What house does Sun rule?

You need to look at the whole chart. This singular aspect can manifest differently for different ppl. I have Mercury ruled signs on the 5th and 8th houses, both empty, it makes sense that I'd keep my lusty side mental. (dirrrty, dirrrty mind I must have )

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negatively, it can manifest as lust for power, emotional control (Lust conj Sun in Cancer)

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but he does try to hide that part of himself from many people....

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Also from himself, this is the house of the self-undoing, whatever that means. Like he is ashamed of this side of himself, like he tries to repress it somehow. He could have some intimacy issues, but like most people in that situation, he will open up and bloom, in privacy of course, with the person who wins his total, unconditional confidence.

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Ether, you can find MyVirgoMask's 12th house planet interps there, I find them very insightful!

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/201127.html

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His Sun is in Cancer in 12th... Is that what you were asking?

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No. I was asking what house has Leo on the cusp, because the Sun is the natural ruler of Leo, but you already mentioned it - it's the Ascendant. So Sun rules his Ascendant and it is placed in the 12th, conjunct Lust. He also has Moon, Mercury, Venus there. Now that's a lot of personal planets in the 12th.
On his 5th and 8th he has Aqua and Sag (even though 8th house cusp is on 29th Aqua and basically it is formed by Pisces, Uranus rules it). These 2 signs have something in common: they are both freedom-seekers, they need it, crave it, can't to without it.
My personal thoughts on this (though it is quite likely to be wrong) is that he is a fun loving, passionate young man, who perhaps had a strict childhood; I think he was curious about sex at a young age, which is normal, most children are, perhaps experimented a bit on the matter (Aqua on 8th house cusp). It's nothing wrong with that. But his parents or authority figures probably thought differently. Maybe his parents have some strict religious beliefs, maybe they think sex is dirty, maybe they punished him for being curious. So he had to hide all his fire from everybody, but he was still curious. Which means he continued to experiment. This leads to guilt and shame. The reason why he has intimacy issues. He craves something which he was told was bad/dirty/forbidden, so, unconsciously, he tries not to enjoy it fully. Then comes Aqua on the 8th, this is makes me think of somebody who uses sex as a detachment from true, deep intimacy. Also sexual stunts and kinks, which are also a way of avoiding intimacy. He might seem like he is open about it, but he might not help but detach from the experience, intelectualize it if you wish.
You need to have a lot of patience with him and not take this personally. He most likely does this unconsciously. He'd probably like to do it differently, but he still hears those disapproving voices in his head when time comes to really open up.

You could try posting his chart. He seems like an interesting study and I'm sure others will have meaningful insights.

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Okay, all this sex talk is starting to activate my mental lustful self. ARGH!

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I look at sex as the ultimate intimacy... and for that reason sometimes feel like the guy in the relationship! lol I'm the one who always wants it, and he'd rather cuddle lol.

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Cuddling IS a sign of intimacy, not the ultimate one, agreed, but he's trying. He perceives the intrusion as less threatening, it is more comfortable for him to let you in like this. It is also reassuring for him that you accept him, and hopefully the shadows he is ashamed of.

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Is that because he looks at sex as something dirty?

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No, it's because his parents did/do. He thinks of himself as dirty, for doing it. And is afraid you (and everyone else) will disapprove of him like they did, if you ever saw him enjoy it. On the other hand, if he doesn't enjoy it at all, you'll think something is wrong with you. Poor fellow. I think he likes sex, and would probably get to enjoy it more with a little help, but in the meantime, he thinks he is not allowed to feel good about it.

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My ex had his Moon in my 8th. I also have intimacy issues, like your bf. Aside from some other very hot aspects we had, I think this one was responsible for me wanting, needing, craving to open up to somebody, to let him see the real, raw me. He has no idea I felt like this (they don't call them intimacy issues for nothing lol). I tried to let him know, indirectly, but he didn't catch the subtle hints, and he had no clue or interest, don't know which, to gain my confidence. So I never got my chance to finally get over it, lol.
But maybe your bf will. So next time you wanna have sex and he wants to cuddle, CUDDLE - it won't kill you. And it's nice!

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Little hint: try reposting the chart without all the aspects; keep the asteroids if you want, but all those lines make the chart hard to read and less likely to receive input.
I'll take another look at it tomorrow and if something else hits me, will let you know.

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