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VenusDeLionesse
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posted July 03, 2009 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDeLionesse     Edit/Delete Message
Lara, i have asked a lot of questions which are personal - but i need your help , if you dont want to answer here , can you mail me ?

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posted July 03, 2009 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

you know how it is. Sometimes your Higher Self lets you know that something isn`t exactly right, and that`s it.

I feel better now with the turn of the thread. But sometimes I just have to listen to my instincts, and if something doesn`t feel right for me, it probably isn`t.

And I`ve had a clear intervention-signal yesterday.

When I was reading Venus reply, I was having a very glaring bright lightening in front of my eyes coupled with a sudden restlessness and the clear feeling I should go somewhere else.
So I took a walk, and coincidence or not, during my walk I noticed two things:

1. an old song was repeating in my mind: When Israel was in Egypt`s land, let my people go. Oppressed so hard they could not stand, let my people go.
Maybe you know it?

2. I suddenly looked above and saw right above my head a falcon standing in the air; he looked like the one I had been dreaming of twice.
And falcon is the animal of Horus, isnīt it?

Last night I dreamed something, I īcan`t clearly remember. I think IQ tried to tell me something in that dream, something about the number 8 and that it means "past sacrifices" and waking up, I AGAIN had that smell of burning flesh in my nose (I started having that hallucination, when I came across Egyptian myths for the very first time).


But all of that was just fragments; the thing is, and I am sorry to say that, even though I am fascinated by Venus`ī story, I donīt believe her to have been really Bast or Eve.
Venus, I`m sorry to say it, but I feel it`s wrong to be lying about my true feelings and thoughts.

I can`t believe it, but I`m not heare to judge anyone`s belief. She believes or knows to have been Bast, and maybe she has been, just like you maybe have been Tut`s queen.

Just sometimes, I feel like Glaucus said it, that all of us are somehow picturing ourselves to be royal and special and sometimes it feels like we subconsciously try to indicate that we are better, or higher evolved, or more enlightened like the rest of the world (or many souls).

And whenever I get that feeling, I feel anger rise up inside of me (actually everytime it happens I start seeing Kaali for my inner eye, demanding of me to be truthful to the last; I know this is just an archetype, but it`s exhausting to be constantly asked to not bend to something that doesn`t feel 100 percent right).

I know this anger is not directed at you, and I donīt want to hurt anyone of you and I really don`t want to doubt what you say, neither of you, and it`s not my place to do so.

So, all that I can say now is, tht I don`t believe (everything), but I accept.

All of this is the reason I wanted to stay away, cause I wanted neither to annoy nor to hurt you with my perception of things.
And I certainly didn`t want to get involved in another discussion about (ultimate) truth.


And I thought it might be better to leave with these things in mind.


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posted July 03, 2009 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDeLionesse     Edit/Delete Message
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I am fascinated by Venus`ī story, I donīt believe her to have been really Bast or Eve.

dont worry about that for a moment DD - i didnt believe many of the things IQ told me , or that i heard from others with experiences similar until i for myself discovered the truth - you are NEVER to accept truth from others but find it yourself.

Also - i was not Bast - it was an energetic attachment on my solar plexus that is a part of my soul frequency - but technically NOT me - it is separate from my consciousness.It is attached to the same OS - thats it.As for Eve - my actions and errors mirrored that myth - eve was a metaphor i used because it fitted, and maybe i shouldnt have in hindsight because there is no proof she actually existed , it was something ORBM told me that he felt fitted the story, because HE somehow picked it up and led me to examine those memories .

Love to you too DD

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posted July 03, 2009 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Venus,

I`m relieved that you are not upset about what I wrote.

And when I had written it, I finally understood what you were saying. I had misinterpreted you, because I read your words too literally.

And that happens to me, who loves metaphors!

Yes, I understand it now.


But tell me, what were Eve`s mistakes and errors?
Her Obedience`? Letting herself get fooled (no matter by whom)?


Also, what do you think of the fact that the asteroid aditi, the deity of my Saturn, is conjunct my True node? Coincidence, or does it mean something?


I wanted to ask, too, does it make sense to compare sidereal and tropical placements and aspects in synastry?
I read it relates to completion of karma, what is your opinion of this?

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posted July 03, 2009 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
If an ancestor has seen the Pharoah, and the feeling is strong, it just might be stored in the genetic memory.
If we meditate very intensly, some of the pranic currents or even Kundalini can activate this genetic memory. This happens not in 3D but from the Akashic.
So in such cases, if we see the Pharoah, and it feels as if it is a past life event, it still does not mean that we were the Pharoah.

Only when we see and feel the decisions that a Pharoah would make, would our past life or a Soul Group Member's past life be that of a Pharoah.

And in any case, the probability of important past life Soul Groups coming to this website is quite high. Linda Goodman is a very high level initiate, plus we are not Freemasons nor cult members. Only 1% of humanity cares about spirituality, 1% of that 1% will genuinely learn and another 1% of that will genuinely apply such knowledge like astrology. So could there not have
been 10000-20000 important figures in the past that 50-60 are present in this website?

I have one good past lifeline or Soul Group member: Thomas Paine. Most of my remaining are very insignificant but I know I had a major role in Atlantis and subsequently ancient Egypt, though certainly not as a Pharoah. But I have not the slightest hesitation in accepting a prominent past life personalities for VenusDelioness [if any one has even the slightest knowledge of the illuminati and know about Prince William's bloodline, they should thnk why he chose 21st June 1982 to be born. Same birthdate as Venus, and probably the same birthtime.]
Same with Lara, there is ample genetic proof, astrological proof [same aspect as Paul Brunton] and circumstantial proof.
Like the Lemurian Crystal in her posession.

Others who I strongly feel have a Royal Egyptian or Indian or Tibetan Connection in the past life are AquaScorp, DD, PeaceAngel, ORBM, Hexxie, Lexx, Deliverance etc.

The charts cannot lie about their or their soul group's past life potential. We cannot let political correctness come in the way of truth. Some people have superior past lives for reasons chosen by the Higher Self, thats it. It need not give a superiority complex to them in the present nor should it give an inferiority complex to others who do not recall regal past lifelines.

Just my 2 ancient golden piastres...

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posted July 03, 2009 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
IQ,

"It need not give a superiority complex to them in the present nor should it give an inferiority complex to others who do not recall regal past lifelines."


I would very strongly want to emphasise this.

In some way I think one or two of my past lives, royal or otherwise, may have been lacking in modesty and humility.
And now I must find this balance between superiority and inferiority complex.


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posted July 03, 2009 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Venus,

I just saw your question on the other page.

So, the lord of my Sun is Mercury - so you mean my Sun would take on Mercurian traits?
WEll, it fits indeed, as it is exactly conjunct Mercury anyway.


Lord of my Moon is Chandra, Moon, so I guess I have more lunar qualities than you would expect from my Aquarius-Moon. Yes, I can see the lunar energy in a weird mix with the Aquarian traits.


The Lord of NN would be Saturn, maybe that makes my NN more serious than I originally thought it would be? Also explains my strong interest in karma I think


My ASC in SAgittarius (tropical) has the Lord Saturn, and I do think I am more serious than the usual Sag-ASC.

My IC also has as lord Saturn (there is a lOT of Saturn all ato nce)

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posted July 03, 2009 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message
VenusDeLionesse,
Here are some of our other aspects. I haven't even looked at the Draco charts.

My Saturn, 20.5 Sag conjunct your MC, 20.29 Sag
My North Node, 26.44 Lib conjunct your Pluto, 24.9 Lib
My Karma, 10.44 Can square your Saturn, 15.30 Lib
My MC, 25.25 Vir conjunct your Vertex, 23.59 Vir

My Karma, 10.44 Can conjunct your North Node, 13.19 Can
Your Karma, 19.6 Ari opposition my North Node, 26.44 Lib

My Venus, 25.59 Gem trine your Pluto, 24.9 Lib
Your Venus, 25.35 Tau square my Pluto, 0.49 Vir

My Moon, 23.7 Leo trine your Neptune, 25.32 Sag
Your Moon, 3.57 Can trine my Neptune, 2.0 Sco


And yes, I am paying dearly for that lifetime we shared with him. That lifetime was my most severe betrayal, the one that hurt him the most out of all of them. I have done everything I can to balance that karma through forgiveness and love.

I find it very interesting that the deepest betrayal, the one that hurt him the most was the lifetime where we were brothers. Not the lover's lifetimes, or the husband and wife lifetimes.


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posted July 04, 2009 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDeLionesse     Edit/Delete Message
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Also, what do you think of the fact that the asteroid aditi, the deity of my Saturn, is conjunct my True node? Coincidence, or does it mean something?

Aditi was the mother of the chirst frequency and all beings that it encompasses - it represents THE highest frequency in godmind.I would venture a guess at unexplored possibilities in spiritual progress.

Also - all of us, by our birth are connected to one of the 7 angelic levels - i think yours is revealed by that.

but thats just me okay .

quote:
But tell me, what were Eve`s mistakes and errors?

allowing myself to get tempted by those who misguided me and took me away from my oneness with godmind.Not caring about anything beyond me and my partner ...and a lot more.

quote:
I read it relates to completion of karma, what is your opinion of this?

Same as yours


IQ

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If an ancestor has seen the Pharoah, and the feeling is strong, it just might be stored in the genetic memory


Wow, that is sending new insights into my system - the informations has repercussions that i wont talk about now but nonetheless significant.

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posted July 04, 2009 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDeLionesse     Edit/Delete Message
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Only when we see and feel the decisions that a Pharoah would make, would our past life or a Soul Group Member's past life be that of a Pharoah.


Yeah well, in my case i know that it is real when i start howling and my pineal vibrates - i have seen things that have nothing to do with me but i can detach from them even when intense .


quote:
ut I have not the slightest hesitation in accepting a prominent past life personalities for VenusDelioness


It not a risk you should take lightly , or someone with a dozen certificates of brain damage will hold it against you my man.

quote:
if any one has even the slightest knowledge of the illuminati and know about Prince William's bloodline, they should thnk why he chose 21st June 1982 to be born. Same birthdate as Venus, and probably the same birthtime.


Additionally IQ, i read that He was also born at the apex of the complete eclipse that ocurred that day - so was I


I never knew the significance of eclipses in astrology or occult until recently.Its the best date for anyone who has reptilian attachments or hosts attached to them at birth.The best time to do that to a new born baby is an eclipse

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posted July 04, 2009 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDeLionesse     Edit/Delete Message
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Same with Lara, there is ample genetic proof, astrological proof [same aspect as Paul Brunton] and circumstantial proof.

And i have no doubt she is roughly of the same energetic frequency and soul level as me - the similarities are uncanny man.


The charts cannot lie about their or their soul group's past life potential

hmm...i kind of dicounted that sometimes....

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We cannot let political correctness come in the way of truth. Some people have superior past lives for reasons chosen by the Higher Self, thats it. It need not give a superiority complex to them in the present nor should it give an inferiority complex to others who do not recall regal past lifelines.

like i said - makes you think what type of convulsive mentality would feel threatened by that


This is going in my signature my man

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posted July 04, 2009 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDeLionesse     Edit/Delete Message
VIG

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I find it very interesting that the deepest betrayal, the one that hurt him the most was the lifetime where we were brothers. Not the lover's lifetimes, or the husband and wife lifetimes.


i know....WHY di it happen

What are your birth details if u dont mind ?

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posted July 04, 2009 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Venus,

"Aditi was the mother of the chirst frequency and all beings that it encompasses - it represents THE highest frequency in godmind.I would venture a guess at unexplored possibilities in spiritual progress.

Also - all of us, by our birth are connected to one of the 7 angelic levels - i think yours is revealed by that."


That sounds very interesting, but I fear I don`t understand the meaning well enough. Could you elaborate a bit on this?

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posted July 04, 2009 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message
VDL,
I guess it isn't really hard to imagine you being in love with two men at the same time. Brothers who were similar, but each man having different qualities that you were drawn to. He and I were best friends, we could have been twins we were so close. But I loved you as deeply and as passionately as he did. I would leave to put distance between you and I, but that distance is what hurt him. He actually never found out about us. So I was in anquish when I stayed, but also in as much anquish when I left. He never understood the periods I was gone, or even when I was there with them, the distance I would put between us, the aloofness, like I didn't have time for him, and he thought it was something he had done to cause it. My betrayal tore me apart, I felt like I had "blood on my hands", and it ate me up and almost killed me. I carried the guilt of what I did with me when I died. I promised myself when I crossed over that I would make it up to him, that I would be forever in his debt, that I wanted so much to show him that my honesty, and my integrity and my love would always shine through.

And here I am, doing that in our final lifetime. I feel pure love and innocence of heart with him. It's only taken ten lifetimes with him for me to finally get it right...!!

Sorry, I didn't realize I had never given you my info:

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Lara
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posted July 04, 2009 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sorry Venus, i was on my mobile yesterday and it won't allow me to view long posts properly

Please can i have your email address as i lost it when my computer HD died!!

I'm interested to know why you think we are so similar? You got me curious because the very first post i ever saw of yours on LL when i joined many moons ago absolutely hit me between the eyes. A recognition of some sort.

I will come back later when my kids are in bed as they are now all over me


DD - yes, i can totally relate to this feeling that your HS is not comfortable and i think it's great that you listen to it. I will write more tonight x. May i add that i think the planets are causing havoc at the moment, everyone is feeling strange and so many disasters in the world

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posted July 04, 2009 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, Lara, I know what you mean about strange feelings.

And last night some pieces fell into place for me, regardint Atlantis. Some seemingly isolated things that all at once just start to make sense.
Actulaly the bits are still falling.

And I am a bit crept out now, for an astrological thing I found.

It is regarding Santorin(i) - you know some assume Atlantis may have been there. NOw I would never claim that, I never thought about the concrete place it was. BUT I looked it up in my chart and I am in so much shock right now.


Santorini is conjunct Spirit conjunct Venus conjunct Isis conjunct Osiris in my chart.

PLUS

in Jude`s chart Santorini is widely conjunct Spirit


PLUS

in that musical singer`s chart Santorini is widely conjunct Spirit which widely opposes my Venus-Spirit-Isis-Osiris-Santorini conjunction


PLUS

in Andy`s chart he has Santorini conjunct Spirit conjunct Venus and it ALL falls nearly exactly on my Santorini-Spirit-Venus-Isis-Osiris-conjunction.


Whoa! That is creepy, no matter if it really has significance in terms of Atlantis, that place, Santorin, seems to be a place, well known to the spirit of all four of us.

Jeez, I need to investigate this more.


Oh and about the falling pieces - Poseidon is the piece actually.

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posted July 04, 2009 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
omg

I just checked Santorini in my chart.

Santorini pisces 26'
Spirit pisces 26'
Thisbe 29' pisces

Why are all our Santorini's conjunct our Spirits?

Yes... it can be a freak out. I freaked out big time when we were doing those Egyptian asteroids ages ago. In fact i left the forum for about a week cos i was so freaked out by my TUT aspects.
Do you remember?
I had
TUT 21' aries
Venus 21' aries
moon/saturn/nn 18' aries
isis 20' taurus

and gun man had
Anubis 23' aries
moon 24' libra
osiris 21' capricorn loosely conjunct his isis
TUT/ubasti 23' scorpio

I have been looking for the man from my egyptian life for years now and it just scared the hell out of me - even though he may not be from it.

EDIT
and gun mans santorini is loosely conjunct my pluto and opposing my DNA lol

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posted July 04, 2009 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for songwriter     Edit/Delete Message
I have SANTORINI conj SPIRIT too.
My Venus conj SPIRIT/SANTORINI.

Hmm!

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posted July 04, 2009 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, I had never noticed Santorini before. I just looked at the placement in my chart.

In my 1st house,

Lucifer 15.07 Sag
Spirit 15.29 Sag
Santorini 19.34 Sag
Saturn 20.06 Sag

My Atlantis is in my 3rd house at 11.32 Pisces. The Sabian is "A convocation of the Lodge of Initiates has brought the earth's glorious souls in spirit to examine candidates".

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posted July 04, 2009 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Hi All,
Dont freak out about Asteroid Santorini. Most of the time in the last 300 years, these two Asteroids have been hardly 10 degrees apart. If you must count a conjunction, it should be absolutely less than 1 degree orb.

SANTORINI and SPIRIT being close for most humanity is a powerful spiritual message for humanity though...

BTW, today is a very important day in my life. I have a Grand Square:
Transit Sun conj Transit SPIRIT
opp Natal KARMA
sq Asc
sq Pluto

Also Tr OPPORTUNITY is about to conjunct Natal LOGOS.

Maybe some useful revelation in a dream?

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posted July 04, 2009 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for songwriter     Edit/Delete Message
Mine is less than 1 degree orb; 0'39"

Btw, iQ - My first Tarot deck!
Can you tell your opinion pls?
There are some strong connections.

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posted July 04, 2009 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
I dont have a TV but i don't regret it reading this.

My sun trine horus, so i was horus?

I AM horus reincarnation!!!

As said listentotrees to me once, we all want to belong...

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posted July 04, 2009 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, IQ.

I didn`t notice this, so we can all forget about Santorini probably.
Well, mine is about 1 degree, too.

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posted July 04, 2009 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
And yes, lara, I definitely understand the urge to detach a bit from some of the astorlogical connections. Sometimes it can get too much.

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posted July 05, 2009 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDeLionesse     Edit/Delete Message
DD, i will give you some info but on mail, you cant trust the forum nuts to not throw a hissy fit about what they dont know .


But have u never heard about the angelic hierarchies ?

Lara, my email is shefbabe@gmail.com

My qsn are in that post to you, i will apreciate ur help

BTW DD, Lara , what DOES Santaroni mean ???

VIG - i want to llok at our syanstry, becaquse it makes a good case study, esp from the karmic viewpoint

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