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DD
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Looking for another thread and found this.

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posted July 01, 2009 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDeLionesse     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, DD, sorry i missed the thread the first time , i was outaa town for my birthday .I will post my thoughts soon, soory to keep u waiting.

PA - thanx for the bump

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posted July 02, 2009 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDeLionesse     Edit/Delete Message
edited what was posted for DD only

Also these atlantean points are IMP

Historical Chart

Galactic Center
0 d Cap 2,279 AD Near beginning of Aquarian Age
0 d Can 10,657 BC Final Fall of Atlantis
(beginning of the Age of Leo)
0 d Cap 23,593 BC Final rise of Atlantis
0 d Can 36,529 BC Jesus first appears on earth
0 d Cap 49,465 BC The first fall of Lemuria
http://members.aol.com/Synchrofil/astsampl.html

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posted July 02, 2009 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
"and important points seriously DD - i not only was i THE goddess of Atlantis , the first woman on this planet, a blonde with bue eyes and Leonine features as well as personality - but i was the DUMB EVE for crying out loud. !!!! "


ummmm.........no offense. There is no scientific proof in regards to pastlives nor Atlantis.

furthermore, you have the nerve to say that I have whacked out ego issues!

Lady,take a look at yourself in the mirror!


a lot of people claim that they have pastlives as Napoleon,Jesus,Joan of Arc but that doesn't mean that they do

the same with your claim of a pastlife as an Atlantean goddess,the first woman on the planet.


another thing

WTF..about this blue eyed blonde stuff being the first people.

there is some belief that the first people were dark,dark-haired,dark-skinned

it said that life began in Africa

blonde hair and blue eyes,light skinned is believed to be a mutation

after reading what you posted, I can't see how I can take anything you say seriously. I'd be surprised if anybody else can.


I see the Leonine personality though that you mentioned.

people, please stop enabling her

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posted July 02, 2009 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
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In my chart - Sekhmet 9 tau
Artemis - 18 tau
Atlantis 14 tau
BAST - 29.3 Scorpio!!! conjunct PTAH
Horus 16 Tau
Diana - 19 Lib opposed Karma conjunct Uranus

Sorry to butt in my lil egyptian lightworkers but... Venus, you and i have quite a lot of connections here it seems

my SUN 5' Taurus
my juno/karma 5/6' scorpio
my AC 5' Aquarius
my ISIS 20' Taurus
my MARS 21' Taurus
my PSYCHE 17' Scorpio
my ALMA 20' Taurus
my MOON/SATURN/NN 18' Aries
my VENUS/TUTENCHAMUN 21' Aries
my DESTINN 14' Capricorn
my VALENTINE 22' Cancer

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posted July 02, 2009 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Glaucus,

I believe Venus is talking about SOUL GROUPS. I hope she doesn't mind me saying this and answering in her absence but same soul groups can be with nobody's or famous people. I have Genghis Khan in my soul group and i know this because i have done past life regression and released all my soul groups that i no longer have any akarshic records 'karma' with.

Atlantis definitely existed. So did Lemuria. In my view, anyway.... and you know what?
If you can imagine it, it exists

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Ladies,
Can I please join the party on this one?

DD,
I noticed your Atlantis conjuncts my ASC at 8 Sag. Seems like we were there together.

VDL,
You and I have spoken about the lifetime I was shown that we were together. Well, not together...I loved you beyond belief, but we couldn't be together because you were married to my brother. I get the sense that was in Iraq or Pakistan though, not Egypt. Have you ever looked at our synastry? We have Spirit conjunct DNA DW's, as well as Angel opposition Node DW's.

But anyway, here are some of my other placements to compare with.....

Artemis 4.1 Vir
INNANEN 6.5 Vir
Isis 7.56 Vir
Osiris 7.40 Vir
BABYLON 11.3 Vir
DNA 14.4 Vir

Diana 2.44 Pis
Atlantis 11.32 Pis

Sphinx 2.18 Leo
Tutenchamun 6.45 Leo
KLEOPATRA 6.5 Leo
RAMSES 8.4 Leo
Nofretete 9.29 Leo
HEKATE 12.5 Leo
SUMERIA 16.5 Leo
Echnaton 20.30 Leo
Horus 27.27 Leo
Bast 29.25 Leo

Ptah 22.1 Ari

RUDRA 9.1 Can
TARA 13.2 Can
Ishtar 15.2 Can

Sekhmet 15.48 Gem
Giza 16.38 Gem
UR 16.45 Gem
CHALDEA 26.5 Gem

Anubis 8.28 Lib
Semiramis 8.47 Lib

Angel 21.5 Cap

ASC 8.30 Sag
Spirit 15.28 Sag
LUCIFER 15.07 Sag

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posted July 02, 2009 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDeLionesse     Edit/Delete Message
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Anyway, IQ once looked at my egyptian asteroids and said that I could very well at least have been part of the royal family or in close contact to them.

DD, the royal families were huge, the pharaoh had a harem and every child born would be royal - those who were of a higher frequency would be picked up early on and taken under their teachings.You do have that signature that one would associate with the egyptian occult - if you dont remember its because you are not meant to as of yet.Our paths may have crossed, who knows ...

But, that kind of past - or as i call it a simultaneous life can attract unwanted astral mischief.I will talk more later in this post...

Lara , have you observed that most of these asteroids for you as well as me fall in Tau - Sco axis ?

I mean whats that ???


Also, if i you dont mind, i always felt a little wary for you, i know you are energetically similar and have had similar lifelines - have you ever been astrally encroached upon - i just feel the need to say that the possibility of astral entities attaching themselves to you is very strong - it happened to me, it happened to Fayte.m, it also very closely happened to Redstar who also had an Atlantean lifeline like mine - she has been aware of astral reptilian entities since she was a kid !!!

Also - Lara what do You mean by same soul group ?

From my understanding as well as what i have corroborated with IQ and VIG and many others , what we call past lives are actually simultaneous lifelines that the soul experineces - because the frequency of a soul is too strong to be contained in a single body it splits across lifelines and time lines and sometimes into twin souls and twin flames.

Soul group is multiple such separate soul personalities belonging to the same Oversoul .

So was Genghis khan one of those simultaneous lives or one of the other soul personalities of your Oversoul...i ask because he was a reptilian hybrid , so if it is YOUR simultaneous life....man o man

Also have you experienced anything similar to a kundalini rising when you met that man we think was your twin flame ?

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i have done past life regression and released all my soul groups that i no longer have any akarshic records 'karma' with.


Lara, if you dont mind how did you do that last part again ?

I have done IQ's meditations and released all energy from those lives to OS - i dont know if its the same thing...

Also, ever since i found out about Bast, in the 2 months since then i have consciously detached myself from this astral part of me that functions as a goddess for these reptilians - i have no interest in this thing and i wonder if you might not have such astral attachments to your energy assuming one of your soul lives was Genghis khan.

Is there anything in your synastry that shows your connection to him like in my case ?

Plus - i hope he doesnt mind, ORBM , his chart shows startling similarities to Aleister Crowley - IQ as well as I think it was definitely one of his soul lives , plus ORBM is the man i talk about in my last thread as the twin soul..

He and i only recently discovered that link and strangely enough he is responsible for me discovering about my demon attachment and my egyptian life as well as all the stuff from Atlantis - he split from me after that life and is a separate soul, mind.

I want to know more about that akashic record thing that you talk about because in my case - i also spoke to the serbian lady that IQ talked about in Redstar's thread on reptilian bloodlines.

well, in the past few months my jet black hair is streaking golden blonde

That lady said maybe the genetics of that atlantean life got kicked because when an alter from another life gets active the connected genetics do so...i have no interest in any of those lives , i want to release everything and be free from all the horrible karma i generated.

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posted July 02, 2009 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDeLionesse     Edit/Delete Message
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VDL,
You and I have spoken about the lifetime I was shown that we were together. Well, not together...I loved you beyond belief, but we couldn't be together because you were married to my brother. I get the sense that was in Iraq or Pakistan though, not Egypt. Have you ever looked at our synastry? We have Spirit conjunct DNA DW's, as well as Angel opposition Node DW's.


VIG - the first time you reminded me of thast life i burst out crying, i still feel for you but the guilt and negativity that we ignored back then , i had to work thru it now.Our karma was very negative - a lot of people might think it frivilous but to be involved with someone who is married or to cheat on your own spouse - is the only way to assure that you never have the " one" who you share true love and belong together with.

Half the lifelines have been about having this slapped on my face again and again and you are going thru the same right now VIG


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We have Spirit conjunct DNA DW's, as well as Angel opposition Node DW's.

My gawd, in the last few onths i have been running into karmic mates and such and mebers from the same family with who i share such aspects...do you and i have any personal planets conjunct each other or conjunct any tropical or draco house cusp - if so then we could be from the same soul family or else from energetically similar ones.

Also, another question - i know from IQ that your own lifelines mirror my experiences - if you feel like it can you give a brief description so we can analyse the astrology , you can mail it to me too.

Its just soooo uncanny how much similarity we have, Lara, Redstar,ORBM,and Vig....yikes

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posted July 03, 2009 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDeLionesse     Edit/Delete Message
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but same soul groups can be with nobody's or famous people.

i missed this because i was worried about some other stuff....

Among the nobodies i have been

Farmer - serbia
Maid in a buddhist monastry - tibet
Farmer again - europe
Stable hand - iraq
Farmer again - india
Potter - tibet
Fisherman - India
Ironsmith - afghanistan
Hindu monk (married) - india
Greek orphan ended up as a senator - rome
10 yr old farmgirl

To think someone would hold it against you that a couple of the lives in the soul matrix happen to be intense , talk about retarded

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posted July 03, 2009 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I`m sorry to say this, but I feel that this is the wrong thread for me.
I can`t explain it (or maybe I don`t really want to), but I think it`s time for me to say: Thank you all for contributing, and leave this thread.


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posted July 03, 2009 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDeLionesse     Edit/Delete Message
DD , can you mail a list of your deity - mythic asteroid placements and aspects to me , natal and synastry - there is something about it i am working on and you can help contribute.

Remember that old thread wherein i spoke of sidereal asterisms and deity energies ?

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posted July 03, 2009 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
No, I don´t remember that thread.

So what deities should I look at?

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posted July 03, 2009 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDeLionesse     Edit/Delete Message
The one where we were looking up sidereal asterisms..or is it aphorisms that are called nakshatras, i am sure it was one of my threads maybe.

I have been experimenting with deitary energies and they are very potent, i never took sidereal vedic asterisms that are deity based seriously , but now i am giving them a secnd thought.I asked my guru to explain it to me , why instead of the sign placement of a planet ,its sidereal degree and the vedic asterism was given such importance.Each such nakshatra is linked to a deity and a myth and apparently from what he told me - the planet resonates to the energy of the deity which is given lordship of that particular part of a sign and that is what colors its effect in our chart and on us.

I am still 50-50 on this.I am positive about the effects of deitary energy , we both know the effects of asteroids that are based on myths for instance so i am now looking at this seriously.


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posted July 03, 2009 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDeLionesse     Edit/Delete Message
the best source i can find is wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakshatra

DD, they are based on sidereal positions mind, i am trying to see if cross-checking with deity asteroids shows a pattern - for eg. my sun and moon conj kaali in the early degrees of cancer , with draco saturn on it to affect me strongly- yes the energy of kaali and saturn does affect my cancerian traits.

does it repeat in sidereal nakshatras ?

as per sidereal positions

sun would be 6 deg of cancer

* Mrigashīrsha

* o Western star name: )λ, φ Orionis
o Lord: Mangala (Mars)
o Deity: Soma, Chandra, the Moon god
o Indian zodiac: 23° 20' Vrishabha - 6° 40' Mithuna ; Western zodiac: 19°20' Gemini - 2°40' Cancer


here my sun gets the energy of the deity Moon in this nakshatra, so the fact that it is in the sign of gemini doesnt matter as per vedic !!!

The deity colors the sun with cancerian traits even though its in gemini !!

The lord of this cusp is Mars in addition, that takes care of the kaali energy, being the lower octave nonetheless.

Now the moon

as per sidereal it would be 20 degress of gemini

* Ardra
*
o Western star name: Betelgeuse

o Lord: Rahu (North lunar node)


o Deity : Rudra, the storm god

o Indian zodiac: 6° 40' - 20° Mithuna ; Western zodiac: 2° 40' - 16° Cancer

o The moon in Ardra indicates a person with sadness and destructive impulses, but also who is skilled at creating new things out of destruction and renovating old things. ( kaali as well as saturn, saturn , a lot of old astrologers say was the old pluto that destroys old structures to force us to build new ones. )

Like this, vedic takes into account the deity for each planet and that is how the chart is analysed.


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posted July 03, 2009 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting theory.

So in the sidereal zodiac my placements are:


Sun: 2° Sagittarius
Moon: 23 Capricorn
Venus: 12 Sagittarius
Mars: 11 Scorpio
Saturn: 23 Gemini
Pluto: 15 Virgo
NN: 16 Scorpio
ASC: 13 Scorpio
MC: 11 Virgo
Chiron: 26 Pisces
Karma: 22 TAurus
Valentine: 4 Scorpio
Kaali: 19 Taurus
Siva: 21 Libra


Funny; that singer`s natal SN conjuncts my sidereal Mars, ASC, NN, Atlantis and Angel.
And it widely conjuncts my sidereal Kaali.
His DNA conjuncts my Sidereal Valentine.
his Chiron and Saturn conjunct my sidereal Chiron.

his sidereal placements are:

Sun: 6 Sagittarius
Moon: 5 Aries
Venus: 17 Sagittarius
Mars: 16 Virgo
Saturn: 0 Pisces
Pluto: 27 Leo
NN: 21 Aries
Karma: 9 Cancer
Valentine 20 Pisces
Kaali: 8 Pisces
Siva: 24 Leo
ASC (rectified): 5 Aries

Wow, his sidereal Sun falls on my Mars, ASC, Angel, Atlantis, NN and his name in both our charts (they are conjunct).
His sideral Moon and aSC fall on my IC:
his sidreal Venus opposs my Karma
his sidereal NN conjunct my Chrion and his sidreal SN conjunct my DNA
his sidreal Karma opposes my Venus, Isis, Osiris and Spirit
his sidereal Valentine conjuncts my Juno
his sidereal ASC Conjunct my IC


Was that what you mean by synastry? Or what should I look at?

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posted July 03, 2009 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
So, let`s see for the Nakshatras


Sun: 25.5 Sagittarius
Jyeshtha (ज्येष्ठा (The Eldest)

Western star name: á, ó, and ô Scorpii
Lord: Budh (Mercury)
Symbol : circular amulet, umbrella, earring
Deity : Indra, chief of the gods
Indian zodiac: 16°40' - 30° Vrishchika ; Western zodiac 12°40' - 26° Sagittarius
The moon in Jyeshtha indicates a person with a sense of seniority and superiority, who is protective, responsible and a leader of their family. They are wise, profound, psychic, maybe with occult powers, and are courageous and inventive. They may experience poverty and hardship in life and can be reclusive and secretive.


Moon: 17°07 Aquarius
Shravana (श्रवण (Hearing)

Western star name: á, â and ã Aquilae
Lord: Chandra (Moon)
Symbol : Ear or Three Footprints
Deity : Vishnu, preserver of universe
Indian zodiac: 10° - 23°20' Makara ; Western zodiac 6° - 19°20' Aquarius
The moon in Shravana indicates a person who is good at listening and learning and is on a quest for knowledge and information. They are intellectual and wise, and make good teachers and counsellors and are good at conversation, but they can also be gossipy and restless. They are interested in the past and their heritage and are extensive travellers. They can suffer troubles and disappointment early in life.


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Venus: 06°07 Capricorn
Mula (मूल (The Root)

Western star name: å, æ, ç, è, é, ê, ë, õ, ì and í Scorpii
Lord: Ketu (south lunar node)
Symbol : Bunch of roots tied together, elephant goad
Deity : Nirrti, god of dissolution and destruction
Indian zodiac: 0° - 13°20' Dhanus ; Western zodiac 26° Sagittarius - 9°20' Capricorn
The moon in Mula indicates a person who has a passionate desire to get to the truth and is good at investigation and research. They are direct, ardent and truthful and are shrewd and ambitious, but they can feel trapped and bound by circumstances and so feel resentment and a sense of betrayal. They can also suffer extreme reversals of fortune that may involve pain and cruelty.


Saturn: 16°56 Cancer
Punarvasu (पुनर्वसु (Return of the Light)

Western star name: Castor and Pollux
Lord: Guru (Jupiter)
Symbol : Bow and quiver
Deity : Aditi, mother of the gods
Indian zodiac: 20° Mithuna - 3°20' Karka ; Western zodiac 16° - 29°20' Cancer
The moon in Purnarvasu indicates a person with strong inner resources and ability to bounce back from difficulties, and who is philosophical, religious, spiritual, likeable, charming and forgiving. They are idealistic, honest and truthful to the core and value family and the home.

Pluto: 09°05 Libra
Hasta (हस्त (The Hand)

Western star name: á, â, ã, ä and å Corvi
Lord: Chandra (Moon)
Symbol: Hand or fist
Deity : Saviti or Surya, the Sun god
Indian zodiac: 10° - 23°20' Kanya ; Western zodiac 6° - 19°20' Libra
The moon in Hasta indicates a person who is skillful with their hands, good at craftsmanship and the arts, healers and massagers. They are clever, witty, entertaining and humorous, and are good speakers and communicators. Their early life may be subject to hardship and restraints and they like routine and security. They can also be grasping and possessive.


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NN: 10°10 Sagittarius
Anuradha (अनुराधा (Disciple of Divine Spark)

Western star name: â, ä and ð Scorpii
Lord: Shani (Saturn)
Symbol : Triumphal archway, lotus
Deity : Mitra, one of Adityas of friendship and partnership
Indian zodiac: 3°20' - 16°40' Vrishchika ; Western zodiac 29°20' Scorpio - 12°40' Sagittarius
The moon in Anuradha indicates someone who has balanced friendships and relationships and is co-operative, loving, popular, and successful. They are good leaders and organisers and are focused on their goals, but they are also good at sharing. They are sensual, and love variety and travel. They are faithful and devoted to those they love, but they can also be jealous and angry.


Karma: 16°01 Gemini
Rohini (रोहिणी (Red One)

Western star name: Aldebaran
Lord: Chandra (Moon)
Symbol: Cart or chariot, temple, banyan tree
Deity : Brahma or Prajapati, the Creator
Indian zodiac: 10° - 23°20' Vrishabha ; Western zodiac 6° - 19°20' Gemini
The moon in Rohini indicates a person who is passionate, sexually seductive, elegant, attractive and charismatic. They love children, art, music and luxury, and the fine things of life, but can be snobbish, pampered, materialistic and critical of those whom they consider not up to their own standards.

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ASC: 0701 SAgittarius
Anuradha (अनुराधा (Disciple of Divine Spark)

Western star name: ¦Â, ¦Ä and ¦Ð Scorpii
Lord: Shani (Saturn)
Symbol : Triumphal archway, lotus
Deity : Mitra, one of Adityas of friendship and partnership
Indian zodiac: 3¡ã20' - 16¡ã40' Vrishchika ; Western zodiac 29¡ã20' Scorpio - 12¡ã40' Sagittarius
The moon in Anuradha indicates someone who has balanced friendships and relationships and is co-operative, loving, popular, and successful. They are good leaders and organisers and are focused on their goals, but they are also good at sharing. They are sensual, and love variety and travel. They are faithful and devoted to those they love, but they can also be jealous and angry.


IC: 4¡ã58 Aries
Uttara Bh¨¡drapad¨¡ (उत्तरभाद्रपदा (Latter Happy Feet)

Western star name: ¦Ã Pegasi and ¦Á Andromedae
Lord: Shani (Saturn)
Symbol : Twins, back legs of funeral cot, snake in the water
Deity : Ahir Budhyana, serpent or dragon of the deep
Indian zodiac: 3¡ã20' - 16¡ã40' Meena ; Western zodiac 29¡ã20' Pisces - 12¡ã40' Aries
The moon in Uttara Bhadrapada indicates a person with good discipline and speaking and writing skills, who is cheerful, generous, self-sacrificing and psychic with deep insights. They generally have good wealth and inheritance and have a happy home life; but they like solitude and seclusion and can be lazy.


DNA: 20¡ã20 Libra
Chitra (चित्रा (Bright One)

Western star name: Spica
Lord: Mangala (Mars)
Symbol: Bright jewel or pearl
Deity : Tvastar or Vishvakarman, the celestial architect
Indian zodiac: 23¡ã20' Kanya - 6¡ã40' Tula ; Western zodiac 19¡ã20' Libra - 2¡ã40' Scorpio
The moon in Chitra indicates someone with good opportunities in life, with charisma, charm, and glamor. They love bright colors, jewellery and beautiful things and are artistic. They are also spiritual and have great insight, and are good conversationalists and organizers.

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posted July 03, 2009 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
BTW the only deity-asteroid I found was Aditi (deity of my Saturn) and it is exactly on my TRUE NODE!!!


True Node is 10°09 Sagittarius
Aditi is 10°07 Sagittarius

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DD, Whats up? Why do you think this thread is not for you anymore and are deleting your comments?

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posted July 03, 2009 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDeLionesse     Edit/Delete Message
DD, one personal qsn if you are willing - i want you to think carefully about this - combine the nature of the lord of that nakshatra and the deity with the planet or cusp being considered - do you feel the resonance ?

Like in the case of my sun in the early degrees of gemini - but moon being the lord of those degrees thus making me lunar and cancerian - do you honestly see any such resonances ?

As for synstry - yes thats what i meant and more, whether the degree of those aspects and the deities and planets incharge of them seem to actually afffect ?

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