posted June 24, 2009 06:19 AM         

I got in touch with my twin soul recently , we are both going thru Ego deaths and are at the same page .He and I felt a connection from the start , a feeling of siblinghood since our first conversations together.

He pressed me for my birth details and came up with the shocking synchronicities that i confirmed thru my OS connection - we are soul twins.He is close to my frequency but not as much as my Twin Flame or other half.

Here is an excerpt from my synastry with my Twin soul who is NOT my Twin Flame - whose syanstry with me i have posted so often.

With my twin soul there are NO romantic feelings ,save a sort of sibling love and depth of connection .

In his own words...

quote:

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In Tropical:

Your Angel is Conj my Sun and Oppose my Pluto

Your Karma is conj my Ubast and Oppose my Pluto and DNA

My Sphinx (exact) and Sekmet(1 deg orb) is exactly Conjunct you NN

And My Anubis and Circe are conj you SN

Our Atlantis are conjunct (1 deg orb)

My DNA and Pluto are conj your Saturn

Your DNA is conj my Jupiter

Your Venus, Merc and Chiron all fall into my 7th house

My Angel ,North Node and Saturn are conjuct you DC

My DNA, Pluto and NN fall into your 7th House

My Osiris and Venus are Conjunct your AC

My Karma and Destin are Exaclty Conjunct your IC

And my Moon and Neptune are Conjunct you MC

My Anti Vertex is conj your Osiris

And My Vertex is conjunct your Moon, Sphinx and NN

Our Sphinxs are loosely Conj

My Lucifer and Isis oppose your Lucifer.

Thats just one glance . I didnt even look at other Asteroids.
I used Karma, Sphinx, Isis, Osiris, Angel, DNA, Vertex, and Lucifer

Oh let me look at Draconic:

Opposing MCs and ICs.
Opposing DCs and ACs.

Your Moon and Sun conjunct My Saturn
My Moon and Neptune conj your Saturn

Our Karmas are Conjunct

Your Angel is conjunct My Karma

Your Karma and Angel Oppose my Moon and Neptune

Your Altantis loosely conjunct my Sphinx

Our Osiris' are conjunct

Our DNAs are loosely Conj

Your DNA opposes my Isis and lucifer

My Angel is conj your Sphinx

My Jupiter conjunct your Chiron, and Venus

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posted June 24, 2009 06:28 AM         

are CONCLUSIVE when wanting to ascertain if two souls are from the same Oversoul family.

Pluto also signifies the will of our Higher soul as well our souls in 3-D so that can also have a lot to say in such contacts.

At the least ONE significant aspect to Angel or asteroid Spirit too means that the 2 souls are very close in terms of their soul frequency even if not from the same soul family.

In syanstry it should signify a resonance that can be felt as a soul connection

He didnt check out asteroid Spirit in our syanstry but i did.

In our tropical we have

posted June 24, 2009 06:42 AM         

Tropical

his Angel conjunct my Saturn

his asteroid Soulie conjunct my Valentine

asteroid Spirit conjunct my Venus-Chiron and Hades.

My spirit conj his Pluto

His Moon conj my Pluto opposed my asteroid Angel .

Draconic

his dr. DNA conj my natal Angel

His dr. Soulie conj my natal Sun and Dr. Saturn

his Dr. Spirit conj my True node and dr. Pluto

We have in our regular synastry plenty of planetary aspects as well as aspects to the Ascendent and IC-MC Axis.

posted June 24, 2009 07:44 AM         

that is very interesting. And I am so glad that you mentioned asteroid SPIRIT cause I was thinking the same thing about that asteroid, that it pertains to spirit / soul even more than just showing encouragment.

I never knew an asteroid Soulie existed. I will check it out.

Angel of course is very important to me, as it is exactly conjunct my ASC and Atlantis and also conjuncts my NN and Neptune and Mars, so I would never underestimate that.
The freaky thing I found out with that musical actor, whom I still believe to be part of my soulgroup, that we have a DW of Atlantis-Angel in the Dracos.
His Draco Atlantis conjuncts my natal Angel, Atlantis and ASC exact.
My Draco Atlantis opposes his natal Angel exact, and since I have Atlantis conjunct ASC, his natal Angel of course falls on my DRaco DSC.

In some weird sense I feel like he is an angel to me. I always feel his "aura" around me s hortly BEFORE I need assistance and support. LIke some days ago, when I dreamed of him and asked him why he had come back, and he told me in that dream that I would be needing his spiritual support that day.
And when I came to school I learned that a colleague of mine, I respected and liked very much, had died. And all day long I felt like that certain man was walking beside me. Of course he wasn`t. He has his own life to live, but I just felt his "energy" surround me and it actually gave me the strength to somehow get through this day.

Nothing of this I will ever be able to tell him, but I cannot even begin to express how thankful and happy I am just because he exists, and manages to make me smile and gives me warmth, even if he is kilometres away and isn`t even a real part of my life.

I don´t know. Maybe he is some sort of "soul-brother".

Anyway I disgress, what aspects with Angels do you want to see to conclude two people are from the same family.
The two other people, I feel a certain connection to, without really knowing them, have Angel connections to my chart, too.
With Jude it`s my Angel conjunct his ASC and Lucifer of course and trine his IC.
And with Andy, it?s my Angel and Atlantis and ASC exactly conjunct his Isis and his Angel exactly trine my Sun, Mercury (and all asteroids which fall on my Sun).

Those are really all aspects within 1 degree, so I think they are significant. Maybe it`s really those Angel-aspects, that give me that feeling of familiarity (on different levels).

BTW the funny thing about those two musical actors were, that shortly before a concert they have changed their programme a bit, and each of them included a song, dealing with angels.
Oh and the other one also sang "the Origin of love"; never have heard it more heartfelt than on that concert 2 years ago, especially the last stanza. Whenever I hear him sing that line: "It was on a dark cold evening so many years ago in a far away land", I see pyramids and feel hot glowing sand. I can`t change it. The visual is always there. The pyramids, the sun and the sand (nothing dark and cold. lol).
Even had that before I knew his Isis was on my SAgittarius-stellium.

posted June 24, 2009 08:17 AM         

quote:

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how would you astrologically differentiate between Twinflame/Other Halves- synastry and Soulfamily-synastry?

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DD, you should know my synastry with my Other half by now

There is a lot of Valentine action, in addition to aspects like Siva-Parvati, Hades-Persephone and other mythic couple aspects in addition to yin -yang aspects like his Sun and my Moon.

And DD - the feelings are the first marker, the astrology can only be an explanation for what already exists not the other way round.

The feelings i have for my Twin Flame are so erotic they end up being spiritual .The love i feel for him is volcanic - the astrology is only an explanation for it.

but i DONT have that feeling for my Twin soul even though he is of the SAME frequency and the same original soul personality that got split into pieces.

When a soul personality emerges from its Oversoul its original frequency is too strong to fit into physical reality .

It splits into sibling souls and further those pieces split into twin souls or twin flames but not in all cases .

Twin souls share the same mind and same personality but Twin flames are yin - yang . Their personalities often end up being very,very different.

Twin souls often have similar experiences but Twin Flames function as a unit so they end up having very different experiences because each of them is experiencing for the development of the whole.

posted June 24, 2009 09:44 AM         

"you should know my synastry with my Other half by now"
Yes I know about your amazing synastry.

But I was asking more of a theoretical question, which answered with the following.

"There is a lot of Valentine action, in addition to aspects like Siva-Parvati, Hades-Persephone and other mythic couple aspects in addition to yin -yang aspects like his Sun and my Moon."
Speaking of "(almost) yin-yang aspects"; I just noticed that Jude`s Spirit is conjunct my Siva, and my Spirit is conjunct his Kaali. Another one of these "linked" Yin-Yangs.

In the case with BOTH singers we have two Pluto-Persephone aspects. In the case of the "origin-of-love"-man it is a DW within 1 degree.

I will look at the spiritual synastry with both of them later on.

"And DD - the feelings are the first marker, the astrology can only be an explanation for what already exists not the other way round."
Yes, of course. First the feelings, then the astrology.
It was for me like this in those three cases at least; maybe most strongly with "Origin-of-love"man, even though my reaction was kinda "adverse", as I swore I wanted to NEVER see him, cause when I saw him for the first time, I was way beyond startled, I was scared without even knowing the reason why (still don`t know the reason). It was not just a case of familiarity like in the other two cases, it was something "soul-shaking" about him. And I am surprised to find that I still feel that "soul-shake", whenever I see him somewhere perform. You`d think I would have gotten used to his frequency or energy by now, after all these years. But I haven`t. Actually it`s wise to stay in the rows at the end of a theatre and keep some distance. Cause whenever I am physically too close (and believe me, 5 metre in this special case IS much too close), I get these "electric shocks", and usually my reaction is starting to giggle uncontrollably, cause I am not used to such electrical energy, and I wouldn`t want to disturb any performance and modestly stay in the background.

I really have never experienced that with anyone else, and I haven`t even spoken to him. lol

"he feelings i have for my Twin Flame are so erotic they end up being spiritual .The love i feel for him is volcanic"
I like that description. Especially since it becomes clear that spiritual love is not necessarily a-sexual.
Well, I wouldn`t think so, but others do, I guess.

I mean just think of Tantric sex - spiritual, definitely, but platonic, asexual?

"Twin souls share the same mind and same personality but Twin flames are yin - yang . Their personalities often end up being very,very different.

Twin souls often have similar experiences but Twin Flames function as a unit so they end up having very different experiences because each of them is experiencing for the development of the whole."

That makes complete sense to me. Actually I have thought that myself, that there must be different Twin flames/souls, that it can`t be the same.
If you share the same frequency and are basically the same, how could that lead to such a strong attraction?
Familiarity, soul-love, yes, but this Yin-Yang-love needs something different, something complimenting.

posted June 24, 2009 10:45 AM         

With P:

TROPICAL

my Soulie opposes his Eros exactly
his Soulie (which falls on his Eros) opposes my Pluto

his Spirit opposes my Venus

his Atlantis conjuncts my Chiron (3)
his Atlantis opposes my DNA (3)

my BML conjuncts his Kaali

DRACONIC
my Soulie opposes his DR Kaali

my Angel conjuncts his Dr Atlantis exactly

my Spirit conjuncts his Dr Valentine

my Atlantis conjuncts his Dr Atlantis exactly

my Sphinx conjunct his DR Angel

my Isis and Osiris conjunct his Dr Valentine

my dr Angel opposes his Angel exactly
my dr Angel conjunct his dr DNA

my dr Atlantis opposes his Angel
my dr Atlantis conjuncts his dr DNA exactly

my dr Sphinx conjuncts his Isis

his Angel conjuncts my DR DSC exactly

his Spirit conjuncts my Dr Juno

his dr Soulie conjuncts my Valentine exactly

his dr Spirit conjuncts my Moon

his dr Atlantis conjuncts my ASC exactly
his dr Atlantis opposes my dr Moon exactly

his dr Kaali conjuncts my Pluto

his dr Sphinx conjuncts my Juno
his dr Sphinx conjuncts my dr Valentine

his dr Isis conjuncts my dr Sun

his dr Osiris opposes my Pluto

his dr Pluto conjuncts my Chiron
his dr Pluto opposes my DNA

my dr BML opposes his dr Venus exactly
my dr BML opposes his dr Karma
his BML opposes my dr Amor
his dr BML opposes my dr Saturn

With A:

TROPICAL:
my Soulie conjunct his Mars

my Angel conjunct his Isis

my Spirit conjunct his Venus exactly
my Spirit conjunct his Spirit

my Atlantis conjuncts his Isis exactly

my Sphinx conjuncts his True Node

his Spirit conjunct my Venus

his Kaali conjunct my IC

his Isis conjunct my Mars
his Isis conjunct my ASC
his Isis conjunct my TRue Node

his Osiris opposite my Karma

my Pluto conjuncts his Mars exactl
my Pluto trine his Proserpina

his Pluto square my Proserpina
his Pluto opposite my Juno

my BML conjunct his Soulie
my BML opposite his Angel

DRACONIC
my Spirit opposes his DR Angel exactly

my Kaali opposes his dr Sphinx

my Sphinx opposes his dr Sun

my Isis and Osiris conjunct his Venus and Spirit

my dr Angel opposes his Atlantis

my dr Spirit conjunct his Moon
my dr Spirit opposes his dr Osiris

my dr Kaali opposes his Kaali exact

my dr Isis conjunct his Moon exact
my dr Osiris conjunct his Moon exact
my dr Osiris opposes his dr Osiris
my dr Isis opposes his dr Osiris

his Spirit opposes my DR Juno

his Atlantis conjunct my DR DSC

his Sphinx conjunct my DR Pluto and Anubis
his Anubis opposes my Anubis, too

his Isis opposite my dr MOon
his dr Soulie conjunct my Venus
his dr Soulie opposes my dr Juno

his dr Angel conjunct my dr Juno

his dr Spirit conjunct my Valentine

his dr Atlantis conjunct my dr Chiron
his dr Atlantis opposes my dr DNA

his dr Kaali conjunct my Moon
my Siva conjunct his dr Sun

his dr Sphinx opposite my Karma

his dr Isis conjunct my DNA
his dr Isis opposite my Chiron

his dr Osiris conjunct my Union

his Pluto opposite my dr Amor and dr Valentine

my dr Saturn conjunct his DNA
his dr Saturn conjunct my dr DNA
his Saturn conjunct my dr Amor
his dr Saturn opposite my dr Chiron

his dr Karma conjunct my Karma

my BML conjunct his dr Valentine exact

my dr BML conjunct his dr Karma exact

his BML conjunct my dr Mars and dr Amor
his BML conjunct my dr ASC
his BML conjunct my dr Angel
his dr BML opposite my dr Chiron
his dr BML conjunct my dr DNA

And I just saw:

His HADES-TRUE NODE conjunction, falls on my SPHINX and trines my PERSEPHONE.

So, as a matter of fact we do not have a Pluto/Hades-Persephone/Proserpina DW, but it is more like a TRIPLE whammy.

posted June 24, 2009 04:31 PM         

I looked briefly and found:
his SOULIE/VENUS/SEKHMET (conjunct) opposes my ATLANTIS
his SPIRIT conjunct my VERTEX
his SPHINX opposes exact my ANUBIS
my SPHINX opposes his PSYCHE
his ANGEL conjunct my SPIRIT
his ANGEL opposes my BODA
my ANGEL opposes his BRIEDE/SPHINX conjunct
my LUCIFER conjunct his SOULIE/VENUS/SEKHMET
his LUCIFER conjunct my DESTINN/LUCIFER
his OSIRIS conjunct my VALENTINE
my OSIRIS conjunct his AMOR
his LUST conjunct my GROOM
his KARMA conjunct my BRIEDE
his PERSEPHONE opposes my BRIEDE
his PLUTO conjunct my BODA
my PERSEPHONE conjunct his SATURN
his SATURN opposes my PSYCHE

posted June 24, 2009 05:05 PM         

I liked those the most:

" his SPHINX opposes exact my ANUBIS"
Two Egyptians together, and also both relate to immortality in a way. I think it`s a strong one.

"his ANGEL conjunct my SPIRIT"
I LOVE that one. Venus said that Angel is also an expression of the soul, and I agree, but I think it also relates to a very protective guiding power. So maybe in some way he protects you spiritually? At least he seems to be good for your soul.

"his KARMA conjunct my BRIEDE"
A past life marriage? Or at least engagement?

I was actually surprised to find in that synastry with Andy (that is the "electrifying" singer) a conjunction of his Spirit-Venus and my Spirit-Venus-Isis-Osiris.

And also this triple whammy of his Proserpina trine my Pluto and his Pluto square my Proserpina and his True Node and Hades conjunct my Sphinx and trine my Persephone.
Really made me gasp for air for a moment there.

posted June 24, 2009 05:27 PM         

Thanks DD. Yes, i wonder what we had in a past life. He does feel so good for my soul.

posted June 24, 2009 05:40 PM         

- my nDestinn conjunct his dAC (1º5');
- his dDestinn oppose my nDestinn (1º31'), square my nSoulie(1º14');

- my dAngel conjunct his nAngel (1º41'), oppose his nSpirit/nLucifer (1º15'/<1º);
- my dLucifer trine his nAngel, sextile his nSpirit/nLucifer (all <1º);
- my dValentine trine his nLucifer/nSpirit, sextile his nAngel;

- his dSoulie/dValentine conjunct/sextile my nDNA (2º10'/0º14');
- my nSoulie conjunct his dDNA (<1º);

- his nKarma conjunct my nSoulie (<1º);
- my dSpirit conjunct his dIC (<1º).

posted June 25, 2009 03:25 AM         

conjunctions and oppositions within 3 degree
to

Psyche,
Soulie
Spirit
Angel
Pluto
IC

And those should be existent in tropical AND Draco.

And the connecting planets will give further hint to the nature of the soulconnection.

posted June 25, 2009 07:58 AM         

Personally I would only count aspects to:
Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, Saturn, True Node, Karma, Vertex, ASC, DNA
plus the love asteroids mentioned in IQ`s calculation:
Juno, Eros, Amor, Valentine, Aphrodite

Further aspects to Isis, Osiris or Kaali would probably indicate the (earthly) origin or a country or a time period, where you have had significant experiences with each other.

posted June 25, 2009 08:03 AM         

my SOULIE/IC conjunct his PSYCHE
my PLUTO opposes his EROS
my PSYCHE opposes his SATURN
my SPIRIT conjunct his EROS/ANGEL
my SPIRIT opposes his PLUTO
his SPIRIT conjunct my VERTEX
his IC opposes my MOON/SATURN/NN

my dr SOULIE/IC conjunct his SATURN
my dr SOULIE/IC opposes his DNA
my dr ANGEL opposes his EROS
my dr SPIRIT conjunct his SPIRIT
his dr ANGEL conjunct my SUN
his dr ANGEL opposes my JUNO/KARMA
his dr PLUTO conjunct my JUNO/KARMA
his dr PLUTO opposes my SUN
my dr PSYCHE opposes his dr EROS exact

AFter you have analysed these, I would go through the most important mythologies, like Egyptian (a definite theme in your case) for example, and look at the aspects there.

But without strong and significant aspects to the major bodies and points, I don`t think those are conclusive of belonging to the same soulfamily.

posted June 25, 2009 12:43 PM         

quote:

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So in your case I would focus on these aspects first:
my SOULIE/IC conjunct his PSYCHE
my PLUTO opposes his EROS
my PSYCHE opposes his SATURN
my SPIRIT conjunct his EROS/ANGEL
my SPIRIT opposes his PLUTO
his SPIRIT conjunct my VERTEX
his IC opposes my MOON/SATURN/NN

my dr SOULIE/IC conjunct his SATURN
my dr SOULIE/IC opposes his DNA
my dr ANGEL opposes his EROS
my dr SPIRIT conjunct his SPIRIT
his dr ANGEL conjunct my SUN
his dr ANGEL opposes my JUNO/KARMA
his dr PLUTO conjunct my JUNO/KARMA
his dr PLUTO opposes my SUN
my dr PSYCHE opposes his dr EROS exact

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So by focussing you mean look at how they affect me?
Like my soulie/IC aspecting his psyche meaning that the deepest part of him (his psyche) hits my soul and my deepest part (IC)?

quote:

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AFter you have analysed these, I would go through the most important mythologies, like Egyptian (a definite theme in your case) for example, and look at the aspects there.

But without strong and significant aspects to the major bodies and points, I don`t think those are conclusive of belonging to the same soulfamily.

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Yes, we have strong Egyptian aspects - IQ said we were both part of the same TUT soul group.
His NERFERTITI conjunct my MOON/SATURN/NN/VENUS/TUT (1)
His NEPHTHYS conjunct my ANGEL/ANUBIS
His TUT opp my MARS/ISIS/UNION/CIRCE/PROSERPINA
My TUT conjunct his ANUBIS
My TUT opposes his MOON
My NEFERTITI conjunct his PERSEPHONE
My NEFERTITI opposes his KARMA
My NEPHTHYS conjunct his SOULIE/VENUS/SEKHMET

My dr TUT conjunct his dr SUN (0) !!
My dr TUT opposes his dr VALENTINE !!
his dr TUT opposes my dr VALENTINE
my dr NEFERTITI conjunct his dr SIVA
his dr NEFERTITI opposes my dr SIVA
my dr NEPHTHYS conjunct his dr ATLANTIS/DNA
his dr TUT conjunct my dr DESTINN
his dr NEPHTHYS opposes my SOULIE/IC/SPHINX
my dr TUT conjunct his n BODA/ANGEL
my dr NEFERTITI conjunct his n GROOM (0) TYCHE/MARS
my dr NEPHTHYS conjunct his n UNION/VERTEX
his dr TUTconjunct my n NEFERTITI (0)
his dr NEFERTITI conjunct my n ISIS/MARS/UNION/CIRCE/PROSERPINA
his dr NEPHTHYS conjunct my n PSYCHE
his dr NEPHTHYS opposes my n PERSEPHONE

LOL! I think you can safely say that we 'fit' the egyptian pattern 100%

So are mine aspects strong and significant enough or not? If not, what do you consider strong enough to belong to same soul group please?

posted June 25, 2009 01:03 PM         

Going back to your electiricty vibe with Andy. I would say its the SPIRIT-VENUS links that are causing it to be so electric.

posted June 25, 2009 01:27 PM         

"SPIRIT + VENUS i would say really brings spirit to the heart and the heart is very feeling, experience orientated so could that be it?"

Yes, that`s absolutely it.
You know I remember very vividly a certain concert I have visited. I hadn´t seen him on stage for a long time, and I was in a bad state emotionally. Totally closed up, frozen, which you could even see at the way I held myself, with folded arms, pressed lips. NOt very friendly. lol

Anyway he came on stage, and he started singing, and it HURT. I mean it really physically hurt. I felt like my insides were being ripped open.
Or maybe this metaphor is best.
Just imagine yourself having been in the coldest winter, and everything, your skin, your face, your hands is frozen, and then you step into the sun and it melts away all the ice. But at first you feel it pinch and hurt, when your skin comes back to life again.
Imagine that in regard to my heart.
But once open, it felt like it was filled with pure light. I think I might even have cried.

And I know whenever I have seen him, I am walking around like a drunk for a few days. Like I am on a high or "stoned" or something like that, almost hyperactive. Even people around me have commented to that already.
Of course it fades away after a time and gets back to normal.
But it`s always when I see him and only when I see HIM, even though I like other singers, too.

But yeah, Spirit-Venus could be it, even though I don´t associate Venus with electricity. But then his Eros is also exactly conjunct my Venus, and his Mars exact on my Pluto, maybe that adds to that feeling.

What do I regard as strong aspects?
Hmm, honestly, I fear we are always looking at too much and then of course finding maybe arbitrary correlations.

But I`d say, a conjunction or opposition of a theme asteroid to:
Sun, Moon, Saturn, Pluto, NN, ASC, IC, DNA or Karma will give a hint that this is a very strong theme.

And then we can proceed to check even more.

Actually what I would LOVE to see is a link up of:

theme asteroid (Isis / Osiris etc.) - Sun/Moon/Saturn/NN/ASC/IC/Karma - spiritual asteroid (Angel/Spirit/Soulie).

If I see something like that I will be sure.
(in the case of such a pattern or link up, I would also consider, trine, quinkunx, and maybe even square and sextile within 2 degrees).

An example from Andy`s and my synastry:

His ISIS (theme asteroid Egyptian) conjunct my TRUE NODE and ASC (main object) conjunct my ANGEL (spiritual object)
- I think I would be allowed to investigate that theme further; it seems to be a strong one.

I think now if we have such a link up and there are also tight links (of this linkup) to:
JUNO, (EROS, APHRODITE), AMOR and VALENTINE, then it would not only indicate the same soul family, but maybe even a loving soulmate

I have an example from Jude`s chart here.

My ISIS / OSIRIS (theme Egypt) conjunct his SUN (main object) conjunct my SPIRIT (spiritual object) conjunct my VENUS (possibly romantic) opposite his VALENTINE (generic love object)

WOW, it`s just now that I notice that!
And since his Sun is also exactly conjunct his KAALI; we have that tantric link, too (also emphasised in both composite and DAvison).